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Post by holmesdaleultra on Aug 4, 2016 15:15:22 GMT
I have it on good authority that Chris Coleman doesn't want to go to Hull and never has. Hull approached the FAW not him. If he wanted to go he would have resigned already. Contracts mean nothing. People talking about radio silence from him, does no one remember his wife has either just had a baby or about to have one? Good news then bro. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 15:24:16 GMT
I have it on good authority that Chris Coleman doesn't want to go to Hull and never has. Hull approached the FAW not him. If he wanted to go he would have resigned already. Contracts mean nothing. People talking about radio silence from him, does no one remember his wife has either just had a baby or about to have one? Good to hear, even if he left I don't think anyone could begrudge him it after how far we have come. I hope you are right though and that he is committed to the end of the 2018 campaign, whenever that is! |
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Post by 5attheback on Aug 4, 2016 15:39:04 GMT
Im going to say it would take something huge for him to leave us. Whether that is financially or Club wise. And Hull are neither of those.
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 4, 2016 18:03:32 GMT
I have it on good authority that Chris Coleman doesn't want to go to Hull and never has. Hull approached the FAW not him. If he wanted to go he would have resigned already. Contracts mean nothing. People talking about radio silence from him, does no one remember his wife has either just had a baby or about to have one? Isn't that what is supposed to happen (otherwise it is 'tapping up')? Seems to me that Hull are playing it by the book by contacting the FAW, but someone in the Coleman camp is trying to engineer something. Whether that be smoking other clubs out who might be interested in him, more money from the FAW or better 'facilities' (or whatever was the sticking point in the last contract).
It takes nothing for him, his Missus or his agent to send a tweet denying the rumours.
I don't believe that he had wanted to go, he would have resigned already. Usually there are discussions between the club and agent to the point when it is a done deal. That is the point that a Manager then resigns. If a Manager resigns when a club initially shows an interest, the club might lose interest, they might not be able to reach an agreement etc, that then leaves the Manager jobless.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Aug 4, 2016 21:03:47 GMT
You might have a point there actually. Note the way he puts his poshest voice on to hide his Welsh accent. |
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Post by CymruFach on Aug 4, 2016 21:44:48 GMT
Sky still reporting tonight that 'Hull are struggling to reach an agreement with the Welsh FA over deal for manager CC' ( whatever that is supposed to mean) and went on to say 'Hull continue talks with other candidates as they seek successor to Steve Bruce'.
Don't know if this is just Sky stirring it or if there is something in it.
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Post by biwmares on Aug 5, 2016 16:04:32 GMT
I imagine Coleman is staying which is good news, but Pulis may be surplus to requirements at WBA soon given that these overseas owners like to bring in foreign managers? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36983933 |
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Post by manulike on Aug 6, 2016 18:26:26 GMT
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Post by Griff105 on Aug 6, 2016 18:51:56 GMT
Just playing devils advocate a moment _ wouldn't he have to work more than four times harder/often as a club manager?😀😀 |
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Post by hookd on Aug 6, 2016 21:42:51 GMT
Lets be honest - I think everyone would take a job offering a 300% pay rise. It would be incredible if he actually turned down such an opportunity. Everyone can say country first but as we know unless you are a top tier manager then you have a limited time in the sun. Should Wales have a poor world cup qualifying campaign then his opportunity of getting one more crack in the Premier league will have passed him by. If they REALLY WANT him and he decides to stay then he is an incredible person and we should appreciate such selfless loyalty no matter what happens.
Lets hope we qualify for World cup, we give a good account then he can leave on a high.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 7, 2016 15:45:43 GMT
Lets be honest - I think everyone would take a job offering a 300% pay rise. It would be incredible if he actually turned down such an opportunity. Everyone can say country first but as we know unless you are a top tier manager then you have a limited time in the sun. Should Wales have a poor world cup qualifying campaign then his opportunity of getting one more crack in the Premier league will have passed him by. If they REALLY WANT him and he decides to stay then he is an incredible person and we should appreciate such selfless loyalty no matter what happens. Lets hope we qualify for World cup, we give a good account then he can leave on a high. But it's Hull. Bruce left because the board wouldn't back him, why would Chris want to go somewhere where a good manager decided the club wasn't up to it? |
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Post by abwales on Aug 7, 2016 23:39:13 GMT
I guess it depends on the person. I think Coleman fancies himself to be a top manager. He aspires to manage at the highest level in the champions league. Staying with us and helping us reach the World cup massively increases his reputation - going to Hull and keeping them up does fuck all. I think he could fail to reach Russia and still get a decent job afterwards, however if he fails at Hull he's back to square one.
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Post by Biffski on Aug 8, 2016 10:32:11 GMT
Mike Phelan is now the 'frontrunner' for the Hull job according to Sky Sports.
Good.
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Post by Biffski on Aug 8, 2016 21:38:27 GMT
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 9, 2016 13:57:46 GMT
Would have been very bad for moral and continuity if Coleman had walked. We can look forward to the qualifiers with quiet confidence now
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Post by 5attheback on Aug 9, 2016 14:25:28 GMT
He was obviously never going to Hull. Why do people let the media wind them up? I saw some tweets where people where actually insulting Coleman over speculation ffs!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 14:53:22 GMT
He was obviously never going to Hull. Why do people let the media wind them up? I saw some tweets where people where actually insulting Coleman over speculation ffs!! Easily quashed by a statement though....a statement which never came, from Chris or the FAW. We were left to read between the lines- were Hull re-buffed simply due to a derisory compensation offer or were the FAW really intent on keeping him or was Coleman intent on staying? |
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Post by 5attheback on Aug 9, 2016 16:14:58 GMT
From Coleman's point of view just let it play out, use it as leverage for a new contract from the FAW it's pretty obvious to see. They are historically poor with contracts and are very slippery.
Also, if every manager around the world made a statement about every club they are linked with wed have one every day of the year. If you look, it was all pretty much from Hull's end. The club would have leaked it to the press to try and calm the fans down to an extent.
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Post by biwmares on Aug 13, 2016 22:14:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 7:47:17 GMT
Tells Hull he wants to manage Wales"With the Premier League, you look at it sideways, of course you do, but managing your national team comes around once if you’re lucky. I don’t think I’ll have any regrets." Tells Wenger he's a twatwww.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-coleman-disappointed-after-arsenal-11794798“We all expected him [to miss the start of the season] so I'm not sure what happened between then and ending up on the pitch, only Arsenal can answer that. I don't know why he was treated differently [to Arsenal team-mates], for me as a manager missing one of my best players, I think they'd understand my disappointment.” Tells TeamGB to fuck offwww.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/we-dont-owe-anything-anyone-11794541“Why should we, we know they're only going to take one or two of ours, it might as well be the England Olympic team. They'll cherry pick Bale or Rambo, why should we give them up? Water them down, take the best out of them and then throw them back to us when you're finished with them. I don't think that's fair.”
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 25, 2016 7:52:20 GMT
:-D
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Post by lj90 on Aug 25, 2016 8:46:26 GMT
I love that Cookie has had a go at Wenger about the Ramsey situation. Wenger is all too often spouting off about how international players come back injured so it's good to see someone getting back at him.
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Post by toshfan on Aug 25, 2016 9:13:59 GMT
Baresi, outstanding thread! At the time of listening to the Press Conference, I wanted Coleman to be more definitive and say that he never wanted to speak with Hull etc but I can certainly live with what he did say. What he said about Ramsey is new compared to his approach a couple of years ago. I like it  Team GB - spot on! |
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Post by foxmulder on Aug 25, 2016 11:18:16 GMT
I agree with what he said about Team GB, but it's still something the press would lap up as 'Nationalist Nonsence'.
Every article we see on the matter has something like "The FAs are against the idea in fear it would jeopardise their identity, despite repeated assurances from FIFA".
The "Do you trust FIFA" response from us is well reasoned, but not concrete.
Why can't Coleman turn around and say, "Well how is the GB team going to qualify?" and then go through the whole U21 process. What answer could the press have then.
The general public don't seem to know the facts.
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Post by pengedragon on Aug 25, 2016 11:43:44 GMT
excellent from him yesterday wasnt it, great stuff
good thread
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Post by abwales on Aug 25, 2016 11:51:10 GMT
Who remembers that pre-euro qualifiers press conference?! What a turnaround.
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Post by eppingblue on Aug 25, 2016 11:57:09 GMT
Coleman should be thanking Wenger. A couple of months off with injury last season was the only thing that stopped Ramsey going to France having played 60+ games like Harry Kane. Didn't do him much good did it. A nice month off now and back fully refreshed for Austria suits us down to the ground. I know that assumes we don't balls up against Moldova.
Only Gunter in our set up played 60 games and with all due respect to Gunts he's not playing at the intensity week in week out. I cant get England they players are all bolluxed and then they arrange 3 pre tournament friendlies. We played a blinder having the one friendly game and look like keeping that principal. |
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Post by llannerch on Aug 25, 2016 12:17:27 GMT
Such an assertive and accomplished display by Cookie. Same on the pitch a week Monday please!
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Post by mrpicton79 on Aug 25, 2016 14:25:10 GMT
Coleman should be thanking Wenger. A couple of months off with injury last season was the only thing that stopped Ramsey going to France having played 60+ games like Harry Kane. Didn't do him much good did it. A nice month off now and back fully refreshed for Austria suits us down to the ground. I know that assumes we don't balls up against Moldova.
Only Gunter in our set up played 60 games and with all due respect to Gunts he's not playing at the intensity week in week out. I cant get England they players are all bolluxed and then they arrange 3 pre tournament friendlies. We played a blinder having the one friendly game and look like keeping that principal. Not beyond us is it. |
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Post by toshfan on Aug 25, 2016 15:54:57 GMT
I agree with what he said about Team GB, but it's still something the press would lap up as 'Nationalist Nonsence'. Every article we see on the matter has something like "The FAs are against the idea in fear it would jeopardise their identity, despite repeated assurances from FIFA". The "Do you trust FIFA" response from us is well reasoned, but not concrete. Why can't Coleman turn around and say, "Well how is the GB team going to qualify?" and then go through the whole U21 process. What answer could the press have then. The general public don't seem to know the facts. One chap on a facebook thread about TeamGB made the case stating that we never see Welsh players in top tournaments: |
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