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Post by LondonWelsh on Jan 8, 2018 16:03:13 GMT
Christ. Because that is how football works.  Putting the cat amongst the pigeons with tongue firmly in cheek brawd  Been Had! Difficult to tell on these forums |
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Post by zenith on Jan 10, 2018 16:16:11 GMT
I wonder if we will see Coleman sign up any of his favourite Welsh boys, either this month or in the summer.
I'm talking the likes of Simon Church, David Vaughan, Andy Crofts, Fon Williams, Shaun MacDonald, George Williams, even Hennessey.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jan 10, 2018 16:22:40 GMT
I wonder if we will see Coleman sign up any of his favourite Welsh boys, either this month or in the summer. I'm talking the likes of Simon Church, David Vaughan, Andy Crofts, Fon Williams, Shaun MacDonald, George Williams, even Hennessey. i be suprised if he does. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 10, 2018 16:41:01 GMT
I wonder if we will see Coleman sign up any of his favourite Welsh boys, either this month or in the summer. I'm talking the likes of Simon Church, David Vaughan, Andy Crofts, Fon Williams, Shaun MacDonald, George Williams, even Hennessey. i be suprised if he does. Depends if he controls the transfers. If I was Coleman I probably would to be honest. With Sunderland struggling he needs people he can rely on, when they bring in players they need to think can Coleman get the best out of them? Will they adapt to his ideas? I think Gunter might at some point but not this year. What's Cotterill up to these days? King and Lockyer maybe. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 10, 2018 16:46:19 GMT
i be suprised if he does. Depends if he controls the transfers. If I was Coleman I probably would to be honest. With Sunderland struggling he needs people he can rely on, when they bring in players they need to think can Coleman get the best out of them? Will they adapt to his ideas? I think Gunter might at some point but not this year. What's Cotterill up to these days? King and Lockyer maybe. Think Cotterill is a free agent so could happen (not sure how much of a favourite he was though?) |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 10, 2018 16:58:42 GMT
Out of the players mentioned above, I cant see the Sunderland fans being happy with any of them other than King and Hennessey.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jan 11, 2018 11:18:58 GMT
Out of the players mentioned above, I cant see the Sunderland fans being happy with any of them other than King and Hennessey. They should trust him, i think some of the other players are not glamorous. But with a short space of time to turn things around, going for safety in players he has already worked with makes sense. Cotterill would be a good signing until summer, extra bodies, good delivery, will work hard for Coleman. |
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Post by zenith on Jan 11, 2018 14:39:46 GMT
Out of the players mentioned above, I cant see the Sunderland fans being happy with any of them other than King and Hennessey. They should trust him, i think some of the other players are not glamorous. But with a short space of time to turn things around, going for safety in players he has already worked with makes sense. Cotterill would be a good signing until summer, extra bodies, good delivery, will work hard for Coleman. I don't know, I think Cotterill has lost interest in football. Instead of working hard and keeping his fitness up for a potential new club this month, he's going on feckin holidays with his missus. It's January ffs, middle of a season. I don't know, if the portrayal he puts of himself on social media is anything to go by, looks like he can't be bothered. Same with George Williams to be honest. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jan 11, 2018 14:54:47 GMT
They should trust him, i think some of the other players are not glamorous. But with a short space of time to turn things around, going for safety in players he has already worked with makes sense. Cotterill would be a good signing until summer, extra bodies, good delivery, will work hard for Coleman. I don't know, I think Cotterill has lost interest in football. Instead of working hard and keeping his fitness up for a potential new club this month, he's going on feckin holidays with his missus. It's January ffs, middle of a season. I don't know, if the portrayal he puts of himself on social media is anything to go by, looks like he can't be bothered. Same with George Williams to be honest. Big shame, especially George Williams, he has a lot of talent, with the right attitude could of been a player. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 11, 2018 16:41:21 GMT
They should trust him, i think some of the other players are not glamorous. But with a short space of time to turn things around, going for safety in players he has already worked with makes sense. Cotterill would be a good signing until summer, extra bodies, good delivery, will work hard for Coleman. I don't know, I think Cotterill has lost interest in football. Instead of working hard and keeping his fitness up for a potential new club this month, he's going on feckin holidays with his missus. It's January ffs, middle of a season. I don't know, if the portrayal he puts of himself on social media is anything to go by, looks like he can't be bothered. Same with George Williams to be honest. Both of their girlfriends are pregnant, fair enough really if they wants to spend more time with their missus over the next few months, I'm sure they're looking after themselves. |
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Post by zenith on Jan 11, 2018 17:03:41 GMT
I don't know, I think Cotterill has lost interest in football. Instead of working hard and keeping his fitness up for a potential new club this month, he's going on feckin holidays with his missus. It's January ffs, middle of a season. I don't know, if the portrayal he puts of himself on social media is anything to go by, looks like he can't be bothered. Same with George Williams to be honest. Both of their girlfriends are pregnant, fair enough really if they wants to spend more time with their missus over the next few months, I'm sure they're looking after themselves. Yeah agree with that but Cotterill has been acting similarly for about 18 months. Maybe its me. Don't think he will get any other caps mind. |
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Post by zenith on Jan 11, 2018 22:29:02 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 12, 2018 8:26:06 GMT
He hasn’t scored a club goal for over 2 years, over 3 at Championship level. I can’t see him being the man to get them the goals to get out of trouble. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 12, 2018 13:13:43 GMT
He hasn’t scored a club goal for over 2 years, over 3 at Championship level. I can’t see him being the man to get them the goals to get out of trouble. He never scored for Wales either and was thrown on to be the answer 2 goals down against Portugal. But being serious Colemam has a picture of how he wants Sunderland to play. If he's setting them up and it's not working, maybe the strikers are not working hard enough, not making the movements he wants to. He knows Church can play that way, he's coached him that way in the past, would it be a bad idea to bring him in? I'm just using Church as an example but there's only so long you can coach people to try to play the role Andy King played for Wales until you think why don't I just bring in Andy King? |
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Post by dai on Jan 12, 2018 13:21:07 GMT
Can't see the Sunderland board or fan base being impressed by Church.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 12, 2018 15:29:57 GMT
He hasn’t scored a club goal for over 2 years, over 3 at Championship level. I can’t see him being the man to get them the goals to get out of trouble. He never scored for Wales either and was thrown on to be the answer 2 goals down against Portugal. But being serious Colemam has a picture of how he wants Sunderland to play. If he's setting them up and it's not working, maybe the strikers are not working hard enough, not making the movements he wants to. He knows Church can play that way, he's coached him that way in the past, would it be a bad idea to bring him in? I'm just using Church as an example but there's only so long you can coach people to try to play the role Andy King played for Wales until you think why don't I just bring in Andy King? He got that penalty against NI in a friendly 😉 |
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Post by zenith on Jan 12, 2018 15:47:55 GMT
He hasn’t scored a club goal for over 2 years, over 3 at Championship level. I can’t see him being the man to get them the goals to get out of trouble. He wouldn't be brought in for goals though would he, he'd just be the man to hold the ball up and bring other better players into the game. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 12, 2018 16:47:58 GMT
He never scored for Wales either and was thrown on to be the answer 2 goals down against Portugal. But being serious Colemam has a picture of how he wants Sunderland to play. If he's setting them up and it's not working, maybe the strikers are not working hard enough, not making the movements he wants to. He knows Church can play that way, he's coached him that way in the past, would it be a bad idea to bring him in? I'm just using Church as an example but there's only so long you can coach people to try to play the role Andy King played for Wales until you think why don't I just bring in Andy King? He got that penalty against NI in a friendly 😉 Sign him up! Quick!! 😂 I remember him picking up the ball and I just knew he'd miss it. Quite a suprise when he scored. One of those moments where everyone remembers what they were doing when Simon Church scored for Wales. |
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Post by saints19 on Jan 12, 2018 17:34:51 GMT
Didn't Church also score that critical goal against Macedonia that probably saved Coleman's job? Might explain the bromance...
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Post by Albert on Jan 12, 2018 17:46:18 GMT
He got that penalty against NI in a friendly 😉 Sign him up! Quick!! 😂 I remember him picking up the ball and I just knew he'd miss it. Quite a suprise when he scored. One of those moments where everyone remembers what they were doing when Simon Church scored for Wales. . Considering we just qualified for the euros I thought more people would have been there. |
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Post by quetzal on Jan 13, 2018 14:28:01 GMT
Zero shots on target again. Desperate decision to go there.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 13, 2018 17:31:32 GMT
Churchy's got 3 in 38
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 17:36:51 GMT
Or one hell of a challenge!
Am I right in thinking he backed Giggs for the job today?
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Post by zenith on Jan 13, 2018 18:55:04 GMT
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Post by rushlegend on Jan 13, 2018 22:04:13 GMT
Sorry but you have to question his decision making on and off the field - i think he jumped into the first club job he could get which was always going to be a poisoned chalice!! - you would think Premiership clubs would have been chomping at the bit to appoint him (seven managers gone already this season) but they have realised that deep down he wasn't the manager everybody thought he was - no offence and avoiding the "Crap Cookie" posts on here but was he really the genius of our Euro 2016 campaign? - his missing passport (Macedonia) "don't care about Wales" comment whilst with Coventry still fresh in the memory - everyone "rightly so" applauded his decision to take over from Speed in tragic circumstances but did he have the tactical nous? - i posted a few months ago how the qualifiying campaign for Euro 2016 was piss easy and he would struggle in WC Qualifiers and it happened!!!
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Post by sleepy on Jan 13, 2018 22:16:13 GMT
Sorry but you have to question his decision making on and off the field - i think he jumped into the first club job he could get which was always going to be a poisoned chalice!! - you would think Premiership clubs would have been chomping at the bit to appoint him (seven managers gone already this season) but they have realised that deep down he wasn't the manager everybody thought he was - no offence and avoiding the "Crap Cookie" posts on here but was he really the genius of our Euro 2016 campaign? - his missing passport (Macedonia) "don't care about Wales" comment whilst with Coventry still fresh in the memory - everyone "rightly so" applauded his decision to take over from Speed in tragic circumstances but did he have the tactical nous? - i posted a few months ago how the qualifiying campaign for Euro 2016 was piss easy and he would struggle in WC Qualifiers and it happened!!! Qualifying may well have been easy. Making the semi finals was not. |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 13, 2018 22:57:17 GMT
Qualifying may have looked easy because UEFA added teams and gave the third place team a chance in the play-offs but we finished lower than third in just about every group for the previous 10 qualifying campaigns over the previous 20 years.
Other than the 2004 campaign when we lost the playoff to Russia,we wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they had the same criteria,many times we finished bottom or second to bottom.
Also,as the last poster said, getting to the semis definable wasn't easy.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 14, 2018 0:50:41 GMT
On the back of that showing against Cardiff, I hope none of our youngsters go on loan there. What a mess.
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Post by saints19 on Jan 14, 2018 2:40:24 GMT
Qualifying may have looked easy because UEFA added teams and gave the third place team a chance in the play-offs but we finished lower than third in just about every group for the previous 10 qualifying campaigns over the previous 20 years. Other than the 2004 campaign when we lost the playoff to Russia,we wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they had the same criteria,many times we finished bottom or second to bottom. Also,as the last poster said, getting to the semis definable wasn't easy. In the past we have had much weaker teams to be honest, I don't know why people are comparing the current generation to Toshack's teams or the early Speed era. Coleman did finish 5th in his first campaign but we came out of 6th seeds and were in a group with Belgium, Croatia, Serbia, Scotland and Macedonia. Now that was a tough group. |
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Post by saints19 on Jan 14, 2018 2:42:19 GMT
What striker doesn't dream of a goal every 12 games?
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