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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2020 14:51:32 GMT
I mean people have just explained to you why the argument is nothing to do with the original point your making - when it seemed like you thought it supported your point. If that's being touchy then yeah I guess we are being touchy - although if being rational is being touchy then I'll take that every day of the week over being illogical How does that support my point - Ramsey has a non injury it seems or a very minor one. No muscle injury was found a day after withdrawing. So no tear, what was it, a tweak??? enough to rule him out of a wales game where others would have played through. So he pulled out of an important match for us with a minor injury it seem and not for the first time. Does that show commitment... no not to me so yes it does support my point. enough has been said about others pulling out for minor knocks. You've got to be trolling?? I find it difficult to believe anyone could share this opinion in public without feeling embarrassed - unless you are trolling? |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 14:55:06 GMT
How does that support my point - Ramsey has a non injury it seems or a very minor one. No muscle injury was found a day after withdrawing. So no tear, what was it, a tweak??? enough to rule him out of a wales game where others would have played through. So he pulled out of an important match for us with a minor injury it seem and not for the first time. Does that show commitment... no not to me so yes it does support my point. enough has been said about others pulling out for minor knocks. You've got to be trolling?? I find it difficult to believe anyone could share this opinion in public without feeling embarrassed - unless you are trolling? Check any other forum, twitter etc plenty of others asking the same question. just because you don't like it doesn't mean its not true fella |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2020 15:05:01 GMT
You've got to be trolling?? I find it difficult to believe anyone could share this opinion in public without feeling embarrassed - unless you are trolling? Check any other forum, twitter etc plenty of others asking the same question. just because you don't like it doesn't mean its not true fella Now I can't tell whether or not you're serious!! If you are I sincerely hope you wake up to how biased and illogical what you're saying is. If not - well played, great trolling! |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 15:15:03 GMT
Check any other forum, twitter etc plenty of others asking the same question. just because you don't like it doesn't mean its not true fella Now I can't tell whether or not you're serious!! If you are I sincerely hope you wake up to how biased and illogical what you're saying is. If not - well played, great trolling! im serious! ive been a fan of wales long enough. i'm not going to suddenly wake up and change my mind, ive followed ramsey since he first came onto the scene with u21's. I can see you joined here in 2018 so will give you the benefit of the doubt. For years we've struggled with uncommitted players, there's been a long long list of them. Some never seem fully committed and expect to walk into teams, while others would fall out with the manager for various reasons... what i do see with ramsey now is much less time spent on the pitch with Wales. Why that is? i don't know... all i can do is guess... but you cant argue with the fact he has missed a shed load of games for us recently. You prob will though. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 15:16:28 GMT
Now I can't tell whether or not you're serious!! If you are I sincerely hope you wake up to how biased and illogical what you're saying is. If not - well played, great trolling! im serious! ive been a fan of wales long enough. i'm not going to suddenly wake up and change my mind, ive followed ramsey since he first came onto the scene with u21's. I can see you joined here in 2018 so will give you the benefit of the doubt. For years we've struggled with uncommitted players, there's been a long long list of them. Some never seem fully committed and expect to walk into teams, while others would fall out with the manager for various reasons... what i do see with ramsey now is much less time spent on the pitch with Wales. Why that is? i don't know... all i can do is guess... but you cant argue with the fact he has missed a shed load of games for us recently. You prob will though. and come on making troll accusations is desperate, i just don't agree with you. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2020 15:29:34 GMT
Now I can't tell whether or not you're serious!! If you are I sincerely hope you wake up to how biased and illogical what you're saying is. If not - well played, great trolling! im serious! ive been a fan of wales long enough. i'm not going to suddenly wake up and change my mind, ive followed ramsey since he first came onto the scene with u21's. I can see you joined here in 2018 so will give you the benefit of the doubt. For years we've struggled with uncommitted players, there's been a long long list of them. Some never seem fully committed and expect to walk into teams, while others would fall out with the manager for various reasons... what i do see with ramsey now is much less time spent on the pitch with Wales. Why that is? i don't know... all i can do is guess... but you cant argue with the fact he has missed a shed load of games for us recently. You prob will though. Not changing your mind in spite of evidence is exactly the problem here Ramsey drops out of the squad & in your eyes it's because he's uncommitted to his country... ...He then doesn't play for Juve (which contradicts your central point that he's uncommitted to his country) and instead of accepting the fact that he's injured like a normal person would you're on here somehow trying to spin nonsense about how this is a minor injury and therefore confirms your point that he's uncommitted (which still makes zero sense to me). The mental gymnastics of this are ridiculous which is why it comes across like you are trolling You say "all I can do is guess" and you've just got this feeling that he's uncommitted, yet you willfully ignore evidence that contradicts your point & attempt bizarre rationalisations to try to make things fit into your narrative. I just wish you'd be honest and say these arguments are just about your feelings towards Ramsey & nothing to do with the facts of the situation |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 15:30:20 GMT
I mean people have just explained to you why the argument is nothing to do with the original point your making - when it seemed like you thought it supported your point. If that's being touchy then yeah I guess we are being touchy - although if being rational is being touchy then I'll take that every day of the week over being illogical How does that support my point - Ramsey has a non injury it seems or a very minor one. No muscle injury was found a day after withdrawing. So no tear, what was it, a tweak??? enough to rule him out of a wales game where others would have played through. So he pulled out of an important match for us with a minor injury it seem and not for the first time. Does that show commitment... no not to me so yes it does support my point. enough has been said about others pulling out for minor knocks. I don't know if you're on a wind up or what, but you keep on ignoring the post I made, directly after yours, in which I've provided an accurate translation for what you've posted. "The exams that Aaron Ramsey completed today excluded the possibility of a muscular tear and his condition will continue to be evaluated daily." (Source: gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-ramsey-injury-to-be-monitored-daily-potential-to-play-saturday-against-crotone) You're only 'stoking up the fire', by attempting to stir things up by spreading false information, and completely ignoring the points that have immediately rubbished the points you've made. The accurate translation for what you've posted shows that he didn't suffer a muscular tear, not that he didn't suffer a muscle injury. If you're going to continue to just repeat that he wasn't injured, without any evidence and ignoring any evidence to the contrary then yes it will 'stoke up the fire' as you're clearly just on a wind up trying to reel people in and I'm wasting my time giving a response to you. He left a coronavirus bubble to join the squad for Ireland, are you suggesting he then prepared for the game on Wednesday, did an interview in Cymraeg saying how we were going to aim for the three points, only to fake an injury so that he didn't have to play in our game against Bulgaria. He would then have continued to fake the injury when being assessed by Juventus medical staff, fool them in to believing his was injured, so that he didn't have to play in a game against Crotone where they were already missing key attacking players and went on to drop points? |
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Post by evans1282 on Oct 19, 2020 15:31:17 GMT
Now I can't tell whether or not you're serious!! If you are I sincerely hope you wake up to how biased and illogical what you're saying is. If not - well played, great trolling! im serious! ive been a fan of wales long enough. i'm not going to suddenly wake up and change my mind, ive followed ramsey since he first came onto the scene with u21's. I can see you joined here in 2018 so will give you the benefit of the doubt. For years we've struggled with uncommitted players, there's been a long long list of them. Some never seem fully committed and expect to walk into teams, while others would fall out with the manager for various reasons... what i do see with ramsey now is much less time spent on the pitch with Wales. Why that is? i don't know... all i can do is guess... but you cant argue with the fact he has missed a shed load of games for us recently. You prob will though. Any other forum?This is the forum the rest are just post 2016 fanboy sites.You say you "guess" as to why he misses games,and these guesses form your opinion of him,I say ok but calling out your opinionated bs is not just because we disagree with the shite ,but simply because it's a guess and unless you can back it up with evidence that disagrees with why he said he pulled out it's just petty attention seeking of the lowest contrarian form.Not really looking for him to shag me,and interestingly haven't heard that kind of razor sharp wit since puberty,surely 78 as a birth year is a typo? |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 15:42:38 GMT
How does that support my point - Ramsey has a non injury it seems or a very minor one. No muscle injury was found a day after withdrawing. So no tear, what was it, a tweak??? enough to rule him out of a wales game where others would have played through. So he pulled out of an important match for us with a minor injury it seem and not for the first time. Does that show commitment... no not to me so yes it does support my point. enough has been said about others pulling out for minor knocks. I don't know if you're on a wind up or what, but you keep on ignoring the post I made, directly after yours, in which I've provided an accurate translation for what you've posted. "The exams that Aaron Ramsey completed today excluded the possibility of a muscular tear and his condition will continue to be evaluated daily." (Source: gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-ramsey-injury-to-be-monitored-daily-potential-to-play-saturday-against-crotone) You're only 'stoking up the fire', by attempting to stir things up by spreading false information, and completely ignoring the points that have immediately rubbished the points you've made. The accurate translation for what you've posted shows that he didn't suffer a muscular tear, not that he didn't suffer a muscle injury. If you're going to continue to just repeat that he wasn't injured, without any evidence and ignoring any evidence to the contrary then yes it will 'stoke up the fire' as you're clearly just on a wind up trying to reel people in and I'm wasting my time giving a response to you. He left a coronavirus bubble to join the squad for Ireland, are you suggesting he then prepared for the game on Wednesday, did an interview in Cymraeg saying how we were going to aim for the three points, only to fake an injury so that he didn't have to play in our game against Bulgaria. He would then have continued to fake the injury when being assessed by Juventus medical staff, fool them in to believing his was injured, so that he didn't have to play in a game against Crotone where they were already missing key attacking players and went on to drop points? So how is that the accurate translation? Juventus website: 'Today's medical tests underwent by Aaron Ramsey ruled out muscle injury and his condition will be monitored day by day' regardless we disagree on this. you don't know anymore on this that me. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 15:45:59 GMT
im serious! ive been a fan of wales long enough. i'm not going to suddenly wake up and change my mind, ive followed ramsey since he first came onto the scene with u21's. I can see you joined here in 2018 so will give you the benefit of the doubt. For years we've struggled with uncommitted players, there's been a long long list of them. Some never seem fully committed and expect to walk into teams, while others would fall out with the manager for various reasons... what i do see with ramsey now is much less time spent on the pitch with Wales. Why that is? i don't know... all i can do is guess... but you cant argue with the fact he has missed a shed load of games for us recently. You prob will though. Any other forum?This is the forum the rest are just post 2016 fanboy sites.You say you "guess" as to why he misses games,and these guesses form your opinion of him,I say ok but calling out your opinionated bs is not just because we disagree with the shite ,but simply because it's a guess and unless you can back it up with evidence that disagrees with why he said he pulled out it's just petty attention seeking of the lowest contrarian form.Not really looking for him to shag me,and interestingly haven't heard that kind of razor sharp wit since puberty,surely 78 as a birth year is a typo? im not going to shag you either so stop looking at my profile. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 15:59:02 GMT
How does that support my point - Ramsey has a non injury it seems or a very minor one. No muscle injury was found a day after withdrawing. So no tear, what was it, a tweak??? enough to rule him out of a wales game where others would have played through. So he pulled out of an important match for us with a minor injury it seem and not for the first time. Does that show commitment... no not to me so yes it does support my point. enough has been said about others pulling out for minor knocks. I don't know if you're on a wind up or what, but you keep on ignoring the post I made, directly after yours, in which I've provided an accurate translation for what you've posted. "The exams that Aaron Ramsey completed today excluded the possibility of a muscular tear and his condition will continue to be evaluated daily." (Source: gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-ramsey-injury-to-be-monitored-daily-potential-to-play-saturday-against-crotone) You're only 'stoking up the fire', by attempting to stir things up by spreading false information, and completely ignoring the points that have immediately rubbished the points you've made. The accurate translation for what you've posted shows that he didn't suffer a muscular tear, not that he didn't suffer a muscle injury. If you're going to continue to just repeat that he wasn't injured, without any evidence and ignoring any evidence to the contrary then yes it will 'stoke up the fire' as you're clearly just on a wind up trying to reel people in and I'm wasting my time giving a response to you. He left a coronavirus bubble to join the squad for Ireland, are you suggesting he then prepared for the game on Wednesday, did an interview in Cymraeg saying how we were going to aim for the three points, only to fake an injury so that he didn't have to play in our game against Bulgaria. He would then have continued to fake the injury when being assessed by Juventus medical staff, fool them in to believing his was injured, so that he didn't have to play in a game against Crotone where they were already missing key attacking players and went on to drop points? False information? He didnt leave the bubble for ireland - they were released from said bubble before the game. No not saying he faked an injury at all and never have, saying sounds like a weak excuse to miss an important qualifier. even if your translation if correct it says he didnt suffer a muscle tear - neither did it state he suffered any injury. bloody hell! |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 15:59:07 GMT
I don't know if you're on a wind up or what, but you keep on ignoring the post I made, directly after yours, in which I've provided an accurate translation for what you've posted. "The exams that Aaron Ramsey completed today excluded the possibility of a muscular tear and his condition will continue to be evaluated daily." (Source: gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-ramsey-injury-to-be-monitored-daily-potential-to-play-saturday-against-crotone) You're only 'stoking up the fire', by attempting to stir things up by spreading false information, and completely ignoring the points that have immediately rubbished the points you've made. The accurate translation for what you've posted shows that he didn't suffer a muscular tear, not that he didn't suffer a muscle injury. If you're going to continue to just repeat that he wasn't injured, without any evidence and ignoring any evidence to the contrary then yes it will 'stoke up the fire' as you're clearly just on a wind up trying to reel people in and I'm wasting my time giving a response to you. He left a coronavirus bubble to join the squad for Ireland, are you suggesting he then prepared for the game on Wednesday, did an interview in Cymraeg saying how we were going to aim for the three points, only to fake an injury so that he didn't have to play in our game against Bulgaria. He would then have continued to fake the injury when being assessed by Juventus medical staff, fool them in to believing his was injured, so that he didn't have to play in a game against Crotone where they were already missing key attacking players and went on to drop points? So how is that the accurate translation? Juventus website: 'Today's medical tests underwent by Aaron Ramsey ruled out muscle injury and his condition will be monitored day by day' regardless we disagree on this. you don't know anymore on this that me. Because Di Marzio is in a position to provide a far more accurate source for a translation, then google translate, which is what your going off. The English version of the Juventus website is just word for word, google translate. But do you know how I know he was definitely injured? Because a missed a crucial game on Saturday through injury. You haven't seemed to grasp that at all. What happened there then? |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 16:00:11 GMT
So how is that the accurate translation? Juventus website: 'Today's medical tests underwent by Aaron Ramsey ruled out muscle injury and his condition will be monitored day by day' regardless we disagree on this. you don't know anymore on this that me. Because Di Marzio is in a position to provide a far more accurate source for a translation, then google translate, which is what your going off. The English version of the Juventus website is just word for word, google translate. But do you know how I know he was definitely injured? Because a missed a crucial game on Saturday through injury. You haven't seemed to grasp that at all. What happened there then? Yes they seem to be spot on with their translations 'The Welch Federation' |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 16:04:00 GMT
I don't know if you're on a wind up or what, but you keep on ignoring the post I made, directly after yours, in which I've provided an accurate translation for what you've posted. "The exams that Aaron Ramsey completed today excluded the possibility of a muscular tear and his condition will continue to be evaluated daily." (Source: gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-ramsey-injury-to-be-monitored-daily-potential-to-play-saturday-against-crotone) You're only 'stoking up the fire', by attempting to stir things up by spreading false information, and completely ignoring the points that have immediately rubbished the points you've made. The accurate translation for what you've posted shows that he didn't suffer a muscular tear, not that he didn't suffer a muscle injury. If you're going to continue to just repeat that he wasn't injured, without any evidence and ignoring any evidence to the contrary then yes it will 'stoke up the fire' as you're clearly just on a wind up trying to reel people in and I'm wasting my time giving a response to you. He left a coronavirus bubble to join the squad for Ireland, are you suggesting he then prepared for the game on Wednesday, did an interview in Cymraeg saying how we were going to aim for the three points, only to fake an injury so that he didn't have to play in our game against Bulgaria. He would then have continued to fake the injury when being assessed by Juventus medical staff, fool them in to believing his was injured, so that he didn't have to play in a game against Crotone where they were already missing key attacking players and went on to drop points? False information? He didnt leave the bubble for ireland - they were released from said bubble before the game. No not saying he faked an injury at all and never have, saying sounds like a weak excuse to miss an important qualifier. even if your translation if correct it says he didnt suffer a muscle tear - neither did it state he suffered any injury. bloody hell! It said that he was being assessed day to day by the Juventus medical team, no one at Juventus is denying that he suffered an injury, which is probably why he missed that game on Saturday. So your saying that he would rather miss an important game for Wales, in which he'd be captain, for what reason exactly? Because he doesn't want to play football, and because he has no care for the sport for either club or country? You're denying that a player who has quite clearly been injured, backed out of two games that he could have played in, without a shred of evidence to support you with all the evidence suggesting otherwise. Don't be surprised when people question you on it. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 16:06:05 GMT
Because Di Marzio is in a position to provide a far more accurate source for a translation, then google translate, which is what your going off. The English version of the Juventus website is just word for word, google translate. But do you know how I know he was definitely injured? Because a missed a crucial game on Saturday through injury. You haven't seemed to grasp that at all. What happened there then? Yes they seem to be spot on with their translations 'The Welch Federation' They're an Italian website, they're translating Italian. They're going to have a far better grasp of Italian then google translate. But what did happen there then, why did he miss that Juventus game on Saturday, if he wasn't injured? |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 16:12:00 GMT
Yes they seem to be spot on with their translations 'The Welch Federation' They're an Italian website, they're translating Italian. They're going to have a far better grasp of Italian then google translate. But what did happen there then, why did he miss that Juventus game on Saturday, if he wasn't injured? but your point was that they were expert translators? better than the Juventus website yeh: www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/training-center-gym-workI don't know why he did but they made this statement also stating 4 days before the match he wouldn't play. Attachments:
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 16:24:35 GMT
They're an Italian website, they're translating Italian. They're going to have a far better grasp of Italian then google translate. But what did happen there then, why did he miss that Juventus game on Saturday, if he wasn't injured? but your point was that they were expert translators? better than the Juventus website yeh: www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/training-center-gym-workI don't know why he did but they made this statement also stating 4 days before the match he wouldn't play. Yes, the Juventus website is just using google translate on the English version of the site. They aren't expert translators, but they are Italian people, who speak Italian, working for an Italian news outlet, so yes, they're more accurate then google translate. His condition wouldn't be being monitored day by day, if he wasn't injured, would it. But you do know why he missed that Crotone game don't you, and it's because he was injured. If you've got an ounce of evidence to suggest that he missed the Bulgaria and Crotone games for anything then an injury, then feel free to provide it, but you don't. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2020 16:36:43 GMT
njdragonAt the end of the day all it comes down to this: if he's faking an injury just to avoid playing for Cymru, why is he also missing games for Juventus?
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 16:41:07 GMT
Yes, the Juventus website is just using google translate on the English version of the site. They aren't expert translators, but they are Italian people, who speak Italian, working for an Italian news outlet, so yes, they're more accurate then google translate. His condition wouldn't be being monitored day by day, if he wasn't injured, would it. But you do know why he missed that Crotone game don't you, and it's because he was injured. If you've got an ounce of evidence to suggest that he missed the Bulgaria and Crotone games for anything then an injury, then feel free to provide it, but you don't. Don't know but back in squad tonight after his life threatening muscle tweak 5 days ago!! Welsh midfielder Ramsey was back in the group when coach Andrea Pirlo, who prepares for his first match as a coach in the prestigious competition, went through the last details before their departure this afternoon |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 16:44:24 GMT
njdragonAt the end of the day all it comes down to this: if he's faking an injury just to avoid playing for Cymru, why is he also missing games for Juventus? Back in the squad tonight a massive 5 days after our game. possibly rested for their last game - no injury shown. its quite simple i don't think he's willing to play through very minor injuries for wales anymore that's why i think he's less committed. Either that or he has an agreement with giggs. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 17:03:12 GMT
Yes, the Juventus website is just using google translate on the English version of the site. They aren't expert translators, but they are Italian people, who speak Italian, working for an Italian news outlet, so yes, they're more accurate then google translate. His condition wouldn't be being monitored day by day, if he wasn't injured, would it. But you do know why he missed that Crotone game don't you, and it's because he was injured. If you've got an ounce of evidence to suggest that he missed the Bulgaria and Crotone games for anything then an injury, then feel free to provide it, but you don't. Don't know but back in squad tonight after his life threatening muscle tweak 5 days ago!! Welsh midfielder Ramsey was back in the group when coach Andrea Pirlo, who prepares for his first match as a coach in the prestigious competition, went through the last details before their departure this afternoon Nobody said it was life threatening though. He picked up an injury on Tuesday, it's no surprise that he wasn't able to play a competitive international game the next day, considering he couldn't play on Saturday. It's perfectly plausible, that his injury ruled him out for less than a week. He wasn't rested, he was completely out of the squad, it was a crucial game and Ramsey was desperately needed with the players Juventus were missing, and now they're down four points on Milan already this season. They aren't going to rest him for a less important game though are they. The arguments you've been using, such as this one, based on pure conjecture, and the arguments you've used before where you've questioned his commitment to Wales because he played for his club three weeks later, show that to be honest regardless of any facts you're going to be criticizing the player regardless, so this is going to be my last post discussing this issue with you. It's a waste of time discussing anything with someone who doesn't care to listen to, or use, any form evidence. |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 19, 2020 17:21:12 GMT
Don't know but back in squad tonight after his life threatening muscle tweak 5 days ago!! Welsh midfielder Ramsey was back in the group when coach Andrea Pirlo, who prepares for his first match as a coach in the prestigious competition, went through the last details before their departure this afternoon Nobody said it was life threatening though. He picked up an injury on Tuesday, it's no surprise that he wasn't able to play a competitive international game the next day, considering he couldn't play on Saturday. It's perfectly plausible, that his injury ruled him out for less than a week. He wasn't rested, he was completely out of the squad, it was a crucial game and Ramsey was desperately needed with the players Juventus were missing, and now they're down four points on Milan already this season. They aren't going to rest him for a less important game though are they. The arguments you've been using, such as this one, based on pure conjecture, and the arguments you've used before where you've questioned his commitment to Wales because he played for his club three weeks later, show that to be honest regardless of any facts you're going to be criticizing the player regardless, so this is going to be my last post discussing this issue with you. It's a waste of time discussing anything with someone who doesn't care to listen to, or use, any form evidence. hell of an injury that he recovers in 5 days though you have to admit - if he withdraws from a squad on the 13th how would it look if he played 3 days later? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 19, 2020 17:36:42 GMT
njdragonAt the end of the day all it comes down to this: if he's faking an injury just to avoid playing for Cymru, why is he also missing games for Juventus? Back in the squad tonight a massive 5 days after our game. possibly rested for their last game - no injury shown. its quite simple i don't think he's willing to play through very minor injuries for wales anymore that's why i think he's less committed. Either that or he has an agreement with giggs. Dodged the question If he has a niggling injury he shouldn't play for anyone - that's obvious and that's exactly what he does. Niggling injury for a Juve game - he misses it. Niggling injury for a Wales game - he misses it. No vendetta against club or country. Your conclusion is flawed |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Oct 19, 2020 18:41:53 GMT
Nobody said it was life threatening though. He picked up an injury on Tuesday, it's no surprise that he wasn't able to play a competitive international game the next day, considering he couldn't play on Saturday. It's perfectly plausible, that his injury ruled him out for less than a week. He wasn't rested, he was completely out of the squad, it was a crucial game and Ramsey was desperately needed with the players Juventus were missing, and now they're down four points on Milan already this season. They aren't going to rest him for a less important game though are they. The arguments you've been using, such as this one, based on pure conjecture, and the arguments you've used before where you've questioned his commitment to Wales because he played for his club three weeks later, show that to be honest regardless of any facts you're going to be criticizing the player regardless, so this is going to be my last post discussing this issue with you. It's a waste of time discussing anything with someone who doesn't care to listen to, or use, any form evidence. hell of an injury that he recovers in 5 days though you have to admit - if he withdraws from a squad on the 13th how would it look if he played 3 days later? Almost like Chris Mepham's injury which ruled him out on the 11th October, but not on the 14th October. If you don't understand that it's possible to be injured for less than a week, then you don't understand much about injury in sport, there'll be countless examples of injuries of that nature. |
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Post by manulike on Oct 19, 2020 20:18:46 GMT
Another two full pages?
Seriously?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 20, 2020 16:19:45 GMT
Starts for Juve at 5:55pm against Dynamo Kiev.
G'warn Rambo!
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Post by manulike on Oct 20, 2020 17:15:10 GMT
Starts for Juve at 5:55pm against Dynamo Kiev. G'warn Rambo! Hora!
If I were a betting man, I'd say Rambo gets to 150 Apostle pages, before the end of the Firebreaker ;-)
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Post by manulike on Oct 20, 2020 18:01:12 GMT
Crafting the goal with a cheeky back heel for Morata to score ;-)
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2020 18:38:48 GMT
Crafting the goal with a cheeky back heel for Morata to score ;-) |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2020 19:47:06 GMT
Played well according to the BBC
"Wales' Aaron Ramsey also impressed playing just behind the front two in his 50th Champions League appearance, and it was his back-heel that set up the Kulusevski shot leading to the opener."
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