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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 3, 2021 22:25:37 GMT
A goal and an assist. We got our Aaron back ;-) The goal was disallowed it seems!
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Post by manulike on Jan 3, 2021 22:42:32 GMT
A goal and an assist. We got our Aaron back ;-) The goal was disallowed it seems! Yes. It was celebrated with a kiss from CR7, so I thought that was official ;-)
Played really well, our kid. Had another couple of great late runs before the "goal"
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 4, 2021 13:36:53 GMT
Highlights of his performance:
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Post by insertname on Jan 6, 2021 21:28:48 GMT
Surprisingly (for me) started Juventus’s biggest game of the season against Milan so must be considered a first teamer on that evidence....but was inexplicably played as an orthodox left winger and was completely anonymous. Well, bar playing a suicidal cross without looking across the edge of his own area that gave Milan a good attacking opportunity. Subbed off shortly after the 2nd goal.
Not really sure what the point of playing him on the wing is, are they that hard up for genuine left wingers?
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Post by iot on Jan 6, 2021 21:47:55 GMT
Surprisingly (for me) started Juventus’s biggest game of the season against Milan so must be considered a first teamer on that evidence....but was inexplicably played as an orthodox left winger and was completely anonymous. Well, bar playing a suicidal cross without looking across the edge of his own area that gave Milan a good attacking opportunity. Subbed off shortly after the 2nd goal. Not really sure what the point of playing him on the wing is, are they that hard up for genuine left wingers? I doubt he was playing as an orthodox left winger because it was the same setup as with the last few games I've watched him play in. It's fluid with him moving centrally when in possesion, but then stays out wide when they're in their defensive shape. Didn't watch the game, shame to hear he had a poor game, he usually steps up in the big crunch games. He's been good in previous games though, so still generally in a good vain of form
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Post by cadno on Jan 6, 2021 22:18:54 GMT
I watched the game, he played well, he didn't stay on the left wing, drifted around the pitch, made good runs into box as per usual. 6/10 performance!
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Post by insertname on Jan 6, 2021 22:21:44 GMT
Surprisingly (for me) started Juventus’s biggest game of the season against Milan so must be considered a first teamer on that evidence....but was inexplicably played as an orthodox left winger and was completely anonymous. Well, bar playing a suicidal cross without looking across the edge of his own area that gave Milan a good attacking opportunity. Subbed off shortly after the 2nd goal. Not really sure what the point of playing him on the wing is, are they that hard up for genuine left wingers? I doubt he was playing as an orthodox left winger because it was the same setup as with the last few games I've watched him play in. It's fluid with him moving centrally when in possesion, but then stays out wide when they're in their defensive shape. Didn't watch the game, shame to hear he had a poor game, he usually steps up in the big crunch games. He's been good in previous games though, so still generally in a good vain of form Yeah good observation because I recall he did appear centrally a couple of times, one when he had a chance for a shot on the edge of the box but didn’t get hold of it, but I have to say for the most part I saw him out on the wing and he had no real influence on the game, by contrast Chiesa on the opposite wing cut in, got involved and got two goals. On the whole good to see he started in the big game but the way they used him didn’t work (at least on this occasion)
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 6, 2021 22:38:18 GMT
Big result in his 50th game for Juve, da iawn indeed:
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Post by rico on Jan 7, 2021 11:04:35 GMT
Switched on from the point he played that crazy ball across the box to a Milan player, wasn't playing LW, more of a free roaming central role.
Poor performance by his recent standards - didn't look confident on the ball and quite a few sloppy mistakes. Had a good chance to score but on his weaker foot sliced it a bit. Strange game all round.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 7, 2021 11:17:03 GMT
Yeah he was definitely asked to defend out wide on the left and was popping up there to help build up play, but also came inside dropping between the centre backs, offering in midfield, and even made several runs down the right hand side
To me it looked as though they were defending in a 4-4-2, and then attacking in a 4-2-2-2, with Chiesa & Ramsey given free roles in possession
I didn't think he was poor and I didn't think he was particularly good. It's obviously a new role for him so perhaps it was just adjustment, or perhaps it was that Milan are a good team at home. Either way I don't think he was bad, just didn't dominate the game like we've seen him do against Barcelona & Udinese
Good to see he started, and was only taken off in the final set of substitutions when Juve were ahead. Pirlo clearly trusts him, and looking at Juve's squad Ramsey seems to be the only central midfielder they have with forward drive, so I'd expect him to be important moving forwards
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 10, 2021 21:35:00 GMT
Back amongst the goals!
Comes on at half time with the game at 0-0 against 10 man Sassuolo
Heading into the last 10 minutes with the game at 1-1 and a poachers finish from Rambo puts them ahead - more than likely the winning goal!
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Post by texan on Jan 10, 2021 21:51:28 GMT
Back amongst the goals! Comes on at half time with the game at 0-0 against 10 man Sassuolo Heading into the last 10 minutes with the game at 1-1 and a poachers finish from Rambo puts them ahead - more than likely the winning goal! Came on after only 19 mins after an injury to McKennie. Played very well again, created a handful of gilt edged chances for others and was their most composed player overall. Could have scored a couple more had CR7 and Kulusevski jot gotten in his way.
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Post by welshrover on Jan 15, 2021 14:39:08 GMT
See England have now got an Aaron Ramsey who plays for Aston Villa.
This could be confusing.
Headline popped up on phone
"Aaron Ramsey to Celtic?"
But it turns out it was this other Aaron Ramsey!
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Post by manulike on Jan 15, 2021 21:52:05 GMT
See England have now got an Aaron Ramsey who plays for Aston Villa. This could be confusing. Headline popped up on phone "Aaron Ramsey to Celtic?" But it turns out it was this other Aaron Ramsey! It were already bad enough with Aaron Ramsdle ...
#One.Aaron.Ramsey
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 15, 2021 22:15:54 GMT
See England have now got an Aaron Ramsey who plays for Aston Villa. This could be confusing. Headline popped up on phone "Aaron Ramsey to Celtic?" But it turns out it was this other Aaron Ramsey! It were already bad enough with Aaron Ramsdle ...
#One.Aaron.Ramsey
Disappointed if we can't get the Canton singing 'Two Aaron Ramseys' at some point in the future.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 16, 2021 18:27:08 GMT
Interesting take on how Ramsey is perceived in Italy:
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 16, 2021 20:31:15 GMT
Interesting take on how Ramsey is perceived in Italy: I can see why they think NK that. Obviously there is more to his game than hard work, but he does work hard. And being known as 'the assistant' might sound unflattering as translated, but I think the sentiment behind it is that he does a lot of the important stuff that goes unnoticed, without necessarily grabbing the headlines. Which is how I see his role in that team. You can see Ronaldo really enjoys playing with him and always looks to give him the ball
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Post by iot on Jan 16, 2021 20:36:57 GMT
Interesting take on how Ramsey is perceived in Italy: I can see why they think NK that. Obviously there is more to his game than hard work, but he does work hard. And being known as 'the assistant' might sound unflattering as translated, but I think the sentiment behind it is that he does a lot of the important stuff that goes unnoticed, without necessarily grabbing the headlines. Which is how I see his role in that team. You can see Ronaldo really enjoys playing with him and always looks to give him the ball Yep, I've seen more chemistry between Rambo and Ronaldo over the 30-odd games they've played together than between Bale and Ronaldo in the 5 years were both at Madrid.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 16, 2021 22:19:45 GMT
Ramsey's always worked hard, he has a brilliant engine on him and a touch of class
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Post by iot on Jan 17, 2021 19:02:56 GMT
Starts in their biggest game of the season to date. I think we can certainly say he is considered a first team player at the moment and I think he can still go up another level. Starting tonight ahead of Arthur and McKennie.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 17, 2021 19:37:27 GMT
Fantastic. If he's fit and firing in March we'll have one of Europe's best players at our disposal against Belgium. Yeah they have several like that, but we can stand up to them.
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Post by iot on Jan 17, 2021 21:06:50 GMT
Very disappointing stuff. Subbed off after 60mins with Juve 2-0 down. He wasn't bad, but Juve were just completed outplayed and seemed to be really poorly set up. They were on the back foot throughout so ramsey never really got into the game.
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Post by insertname on Jan 17, 2021 21:31:27 GMT
Very disappointing stuff. Subbed off after 60mins with Juve 2-0 down. He wasn't bad, but Juve were just completed outplayed and seemed to be really poorly set up. They were on the back foot throughout so ramsey never really got into the game. Same as against Milan then. Certainly against the bigger teams picking him on the wing with a mandate to drift in is not giving him the opportunity to have any influence on the game. That being said the Juventus forum makes grim reading. I don’t think Juve is the best team for him right now especially with the mess they are in at the moment after all their dominance. I suspect Pirlo will be sacked soon and Allegri will return
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 17, 2021 22:38:01 GMT
Very disappointing stuff. Subbed off after 60mins with Juve 2-0 down. He wasn't bad, but Juve were just completed outplayed and seemed to be really poorly set up. They were on the back foot throughout so ramsey never really got into the game. Same as against Milan then. Certainly against the bigger teams picking him on the wing with a mandate to drift in is not giving him the opportunity to have any influence on the game. That being said the Juventus forum makes grim reading. I don’t think Juve is the best team for him right now especially with the mess they are in at the moment after all their dominance. I suspect Pirlo will be sacked soon and Allegri will return I can't even remember why Allegri left? I think they need him back, they seem to have lost their solidity with Chiellini and Bonucci ageing. Perhaps he could bring it back - after all, he was the one that signed Rambo so he must be a fan To be fair I think Pirlo deserves a chance to show what he can do, but he clearly is still figuring out his best system
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Post by insertname on Jan 17, 2021 23:40:32 GMT
Same as against Milan then. Certainly against the bigger teams picking him on the wing with a mandate to drift in is not giving him the opportunity to have any influence on the game. That being said the Juventus forum makes grim reading. I don’t think Juve is the best team for him right now especially with the mess they are in at the moment after all their dominance. I suspect Pirlo will be sacked soon and Allegri will return I can't even remember why Allegri left? I think they need him back, they seem to have lost their solidity with Chiellini and Bonucci ageing. Perhaps he could bring it back - after all, he was the one that signed Rambo so he must be a fan To be fair I think Pirlo deserves a chance to show what he can do, but he clearly is still figuring out his best system Boredom I think! 😂 If Pirlo was at a run of the mill club I could agree, but you don’t get time at Juventus because they expect to be winning the league title every season. They might not even be in the race this season and for that to happen, especially after Sarri (not a great manager) winning it last season is as catastrophic as it can get. I guess the big issue is that Pirlo is not exactly displaying signs of having good game management potential, It doesn’t look to be a case that he’s just being let down by the players. The Juve squad isn’t great, don’t get me wrong but I don’t feel Pirlo is fulfilling his end of this adequately. Probably way too soon for him to have taken on a job where a league title is the baseline requirement I recall Juve fans being glad Allegri left as they thought they could get someone to push them one step further to being champions of Europe but “careful what you wish for” has been the lesson they have learned. I think they would welcome him back now.
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Post by johnoster on Jan 29, 2021 14:41:20 GMT
90 minutes last night in the cup, but I'm really starting to feel for Ramsey over there.
It seems that the Juventus side is full of players playing for themselves.
When Ramsey got the ball he'd play an unselfish pass to try and put someone else in. When any of the other players got the ball they'd try and beat as many players as they could and get a shot away.
Ramsey made some great runs but it seems the others just don't want to pass to him.
It's a real shame as he's being seen as a support player, when he's more talented than the likes of Chiesa and Kulusevski.
But he either need to accept that support role, or be more selfish and risk the fans getting on his back.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 29, 2021 17:08:40 GMT
90 minutes last night in the cup, but I'm really starting to feel for Ramsey over there. It seems that the Juventus side is full of players playing for themselves. When Ramsey got the ball he'd play an unselfish pass to try and put someone else in. When any of the other players got the ball they'd try and beat as many players as they could and get a shot away. Ramsey made some great runs but it seems the others just don't want to pass to him. It's a real shame as he's being seen as a support player, when he's more talented than the likes of Chiesa and Kulusevski. But he either need to accept that support role, or be more selfish and risk the fans getting on his back. Yeah its bizarre Its nice he's finally appreciated by a club's fans, I had a look on a Juve forum and they love him
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Post by manulike on Jan 30, 2021 17:14:37 GMT
90 minutes last night in the cup, but I'm really starting to feel for Ramsey over there. It seems that the Juventus side is full of players playing for themselves. When Ramsey got the ball he'd play an unselfish pass to try and put someone else in. When any of the other players got the ball they'd try and beat as many players as they could and get a shot away. Ramsey made some great runs but it seems the others just don't want to pass to him. It's a real shame as he's being seen as a support player, when he's more talented than the likes of Chiesa and Kulusevski. But he either need to accept that support role, or be more selfish and risk the fans getting on his back. Yeah its bizarre Its nice he's finally appreciated by a club's fans, I had a look on a Juve forum and they love him Some of us Gunners still love him ;-))
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Post by manulike on Jan 30, 2021 18:53:40 GMT
RAMBO ... GOOOOOAL
Super sub ;-)
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Post by dylanjunecymru on Jan 31, 2021 1:09:59 GMT
Playing very well recently! Let’s hope we can have the gift of having him fit & firing in time for the games in march. Would be a huge start for us to have all the boys fit and ready.
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