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Post by alarch on Nov 10, 2020 20:57:47 GMT
I'm sure Croatian fans are hoping Modric bulks up too... Thankfully they don't have all their faith placed in a single player. Rakitic, Brozovic etc. do well in his absence. Imagine trying to draw any sort of comparison between Modric and Championship lightweights ffs. Rather missing the point here. Modric is superb defensively as well as offensively and yet there's nothing to him. Likewise Kante. Britton for Swansea. Bulk translates into extra weight and therefore inertia and slowness off the mark. To be fair, if you were a Swansea fan and had followed Britton's career then you'd know that bulk isn't a pre-requisite for the holding midfield role. It never ceases to amaze me how many Swansea fans still yearn for a big bruiser in the middle of the park, as if Britton had never played for the Swans. |
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 10, 2020 21:12:11 GMT
Thankfully they don't have all their faith placed in a single player. Rakitic, Brozovic etc. do well in his absence. Imagine trying to draw any sort of comparison between Modric and Championship lightweights ffs. Rather missing the point here. Modric is superb defensively as well as offensively and yet there's nothing to him. Likewise Kante. Britton for Swansea. Bulk translates into extra weight and therefore inertia and slowness off the mark. To be fair, if you were a Swansea fan and had followed Britton's career then you'd know that bulk isn't a pre-requisite for the holding midfield role. It never ceases to amaze me how many Swansea fans still yearn for a big bruiser in the middle of the park, as if Britton had never played for the Swans. You're right. Smith and Levitt, despite getting knocked off the ball like leaves in the wind can be absolute midfield generals. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 16, 2020 23:46:06 GMT
dragonsoccer reporting that: According to reports from Italy Aaron Ramsey expected to return for Juve at the end of the month
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 24, 2020 22:00:41 GMT
Back for Juve, came on for the last 10 mins in the CL
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Post by texan on Nov 25, 2020 9:41:38 GMT
Back for Juve, came on for the last 10 mins in the CL Did he?! Jesus Christ I need glasses! Scanned the lineup and bench before kickoff and didn't see his name so didn't bother watching. Any good? Or was he not on long enough to gauge? |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 25, 2020 10:10:30 GMT
I didn't watch either, just noticed he came on towards the end. They scored a last gasp winner so obviously thats down to him being on the field. Its the effect he has.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 8, 2020 21:54:05 GMT
A famous victory for Ramsey and the old lady at Barcelona tonight. Top of the group.
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Post by iot on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:47 GMT
Getting lots of love on Twitter, was superb by all accounts. Big game player.
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Post by rico on Dec 9, 2020 8:27:25 GMT
Getting lots of love on Twitter, was superb by all accounts. Big game player. Really is a big game player, makes >that< suspension so hard to stomach. Great in a free role at Juve, Pirlos style suits him well. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 9, 2020 9:23:45 GMT
We'll need him fit and firing if we are to stand up to Belgium again.
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Post by welshrover on Dec 12, 2020 10:52:40 GMT
I have nothing to say about Aaron, I'm just adding a bit more weight to the anchor ⚓.
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Post by iot on Dec 16, 2020 19:53:06 GMT
Starnge that after his brilliant performance against Barca the other day, he was an unused sub in Juve's home draw against Atlanta this evening. I don't get that
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Post by insertname on Dec 16, 2020 21:06:17 GMT
Starnge that after his brilliant performance against Barca the other day, he was an unused sub in Juve's home draw against Atlanta this evening. I don't get that Plays in a dead rubber against Barcelona, not involved against Genoa and Atalanta in the league where Juve are playing catch up. Ominous. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 17, 2020 0:08:31 GMT
Also ominous for Alex Sandro & Weston McKennie who started against Barca but not tonight - it must mean they are all just not up to it :/
I giggled when you said dead rubber though tbf. You do realise that result was the difference between Juventus playing Porto or PSG in the last 16. That was a massive result for their season as gaining the favourable draw means they are more than likely through to the quarters of the Champions League, which I will remind you is the trophy that they really want. They'd swap another league title in a heart beat to win the Champions League
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 17, 2020 10:29:31 GMT
Pirlo manages an injury prone player's gametime and we go berserk.
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Post by insertname on Dec 17, 2020 10:48:27 GMT
Also ominous for Alex Sandro & Weston McKennie who started against Barca but not tonight - it must mean they are all just not up to it :/ I giggled when you said dead rubber though tbf. You do realise that result was the difference between Juventus playing Porto or PSG in the last 16. That was a massive result for their season as gaining the favourable draw means they are more than likely through to the quarters of the Champions League, which I will remind you is the trophy that they really want. They'd swap another league title in a heart beat to win the Champions League Crikey you’ve changed your tune- you were confidently arguing that Barcelona was a dead rubber a few weeks ago when Ramsey didn’t play and when no-one had actually qualified! 😂 If you look at Ramsey’s time on the pitch in the last four games he’s played the last 30 minutes of a league game, 70 in the Barcelona game and that’s it. So you’re telling me that they were wrapping him up in cotton wool for the express purpose of beating Barcelona when they had already qualified because that was their big game? Pull the other one.... |
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Post by insertname on Dec 17, 2020 10:53:06 GMT
Pirlo manages an injury prone player's gametime and we go berserk. With respect though 90 minutes cumulative over 4 games is less “managing” and more “using very sparingly” |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 17, 2020 11:16:00 GMT
Pirlo manages an injury prone player's gametime and we go berserk. With respect though 90 minutes cumulative over 4 games is less “managing” and more “using very sparingly” 90 minutes in 11 days... |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 17, 2020 12:24:42 GMT
Also ominous for Alex Sandro & Weston McKennie who started against Barca but not tonight - it must mean they are all just not up to it :/ I giggled when you said dead rubber though tbf. You do realise that result was the difference between Juventus playing Porto or PSG in the last 16. That was a massive result for their season as gaining the favourable draw means they are more than likely through to the quarters of the Champions League, which I will remind you is the trophy that they really want. They'd swap another league title in a heart beat to win the Champions League Crikey you’ve changed your tune- you were confidently arguing that Barcelona was a dead rubber a few weeks ago when Ramsey didn’t play and when no-one had actually qualified! 😂 If you look at Ramsey’s time on the pitch in the last four games he’s played the last 30 minutes of a league game, 70 in the Barcelona game and that’s it. So you’re telling me that they were wrapping him up in cotton wool for the express purpose of beating Barcelona when they had already qualified because that was their big game? Pull the other one.... What are you on about?! I went back and looked at my posts from when they last played Barca and I said this... “Huge game tonight for our boy. Barcelona in the Champions League, whilst they’ll be missing Ronaldo through COVID-19. There will be extra emphasis on his to be a creator with Dybala also possibly missing out. Chiellini & De Ligt are also out so their defence won’t be first choice. Will be a great test for Ramsey up against a European powerhouse - a big performance and possibly world football will sit up and take a bit more notice of him, especially if he stands out whilst sharing a pitch with Messi” Where on Earth did you get that I thought it was a dead rubber based on that?! Or were you just lying? After he didn’t play, and Pirlo publically stated that he rested him I said this... ”Tbf he was definitely being rested - I hadn't realised he'd played 3 games in such a short space of time. He's never ever played that many games in a row for Juve and for good reason - they saw what happened to him when he was overplayed at Arsenal. Hence why he didn't make it off the bench today despite being starter nearly every time he's been available so far this season” Again no mention of downplaying the importance of the game like you’ve falsely claimed Nice try, but if you feel the need to make something up to support your point then maybe it isn’t a good point? |
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Post by insertname on Dec 17, 2020 12:55:48 GMT
Crikey you’ve changed your tune- you were confidently arguing that Barcelona was a dead rubber a few weeks ago when Ramsey didn’t play and when no-one had actually qualified! 😂 If you look at Ramsey’s time on the pitch in the last four games he’s played the last 30 minutes of a league game, 70 in the Barcelona game and that’s it. So you’re telling me that they were wrapping him up in cotton wool for the express purpose of beating Barcelona when they had already qualified because that was their big game? Pull the other one.... What are you on about?! I went back and looked at my posts from when they last played Barca and I said this... “Huge game tonight for our boy. Barcelona in the Champions League, whilst they’ll be missing Ronaldo through COVID-19. There will be extra emphasis on his to be a creator with Dybala also possibly missing out. Chiellini & De Ligt are also out so their defence won’t be first choice. Will be a great test for Ramsey up against a European powerhouse - a big performance and possibly world football will sit up and take a bit more notice of him, especially if he stands out whilst sharing a pitch with Messi” Where on Earth did you get that I thought it was a dead rubber based on that?! Or were you just lying? After he didn’t play, and Pirlo publically stated that he rested him I said this... ”Tbf he was definitely being rested - I hadn't realised he'd played 3 games in such a short space of time. He's never ever played that many games in a row for Juve and for good reason - they saw what happened to him when he was overplayed at Arsenal. Hence why he didn't make it off the bench today despite being starter nearly every time he's been available so far this season” Again no mention of downplaying the importance of the game like you’ve falsely claimed Nice try, but if you feel the need to make something up to support your point then maybe it isn’t a good point? Yep, apologies, I got you confused with Walesgolfmadrid who was making the case that it was actually not an important game for Juventus- hold my hands up to that one, I thought it would be pages to hoof through to check and I was certain you were the one who had said that.....:facepalm: |
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Post by insertname on Dec 17, 2020 12:57:45 GMT
With respect though 90 minutes cumulative over 4 games is less “managing” and more “using very sparingly” 90 minutes in 11 days... Fair point that, but what I find odd is that he was considered fit enough to be on the bench but not bring on when they were heading for a draw at home. Even the Juventus fans seem confused by that one. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 17, 2020 13:43:43 GMT
What are you on about?! I went back and looked at my posts from when they last played Barca and I said this... “Huge game tonight for our boy. Barcelona in the Champions League, whilst they’ll be missing Ronaldo through COVID-19. There will be extra emphasis on his to be a creator with Dybala also possibly missing out. Chiellini & De Ligt are also out so their defence won’t be first choice. Will be a great test for Ramsey up against a European powerhouse - a big performance and possibly world football will sit up and take a bit more notice of him, especially if he stands out whilst sharing a pitch with Messi” Where on Earth did you get that I thought it was a dead rubber based on that?! Or were you just lying? After he didn’t play, and Pirlo publically stated that he rested him I said this... ”Tbf he was definitely being rested - I hadn't realised he'd played 3 games in such a short space of time. He's never ever played that many games in a row for Juve and for good reason - they saw what happened to him when he was overplayed at Arsenal. Hence why he didn't make it off the bench today despite being starter nearly every time he's been available so far this season” Again no mention of downplaying the importance of the game like you’ve falsely claimed Nice try, but if you feel the need to make something up to support your point then maybe it isn’t a good point? Yep, apologies, I got you confused with Walesgolfmadrid who was making the case that it was actually not an important game for Juventus- hold my hands up to that one, I thought it would be pages to hoof through to check and I was certain you were the one who had said that.....:facepalm: No worries fella. Done that myself before to be fair, easily done! |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Dec 18, 2020 0:24:14 GMT
What are you on about?! I went back and looked at my posts from when they last played Barca and I said this... “Huge game tonight for our boy. Barcelona in the Champions League, whilst they’ll be missing Ronaldo through COVID-19. There will be extra emphasis on his to be a creator with Dybala also possibly missing out. Chiellini & De Ligt are also out so their defence won’t be first choice. Will be a great test for Ramsey up against a European powerhouse - a big performance and possibly world football will sit up and take a bit more notice of him, especially if he stands out whilst sharing a pitch with Messi” Where on Earth did you get that I thought it was a dead rubber based on that?! Or were you just lying? After he didn’t play, and Pirlo publically stated that he rested him I said this... ”Tbf he was definitely being rested - I hadn't realised he'd played 3 games in such a short space of time. He's never ever played that many games in a row for Juve and for good reason - they saw what happened to him when he was overplayed at Arsenal. Hence why he didn't make it off the bench today despite being starter nearly every time he's been available so far this season” Again no mention of downplaying the importance of the game like you’ve falsely claimed Nice try, but if you feel the need to make something up to support your point then maybe it isn’t a good point? Yep, apologies, I got you confused with Walesgolfmadrid who was making the case that it was actually not an important game for Juventus- hold my hands up to that one, I thought it would be pages to hoof through to check and I was certain you were the one who had said that.....:facepalm: I didn't say it wasn't an important game for Juventus, I said that it wasn't their most important game of the season. They're four points off the top spot in Serie A, they had effectively qualified with the way their group had worked out (they weren't ever going to finish below Dynamo Kiev or Ferencavos) and the games in Barcelona were simply to decide first and second spot in the group stage. That isn't as important as retaining their Serie A title. If Pirlo doesn't win the league, he'll be gone. |
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Post by rico on Dec 20, 2020 10:39:19 GMT
Played 68 mins tonight, played well - assisted Ronaldo for 3rd goal (although was a bit of a tackle assist similar to Bale > Neil Taylor vs Russia). Obvious that Pirlo is managing his minutes due to his injury prone-ness. Seems to have turned a corner with Juve fans judging by social media comments, generally more positive than negative currently.
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Post by insertname on Dec 20, 2020 16:13:44 GMT
Played 68 mins tonight, played well - assisted Ronaldo for 3rd goal (although was a bit of a tackle assist similar to Bale > Neil Taylor vs Russia). Obvious that Pirlo is managing his minutes due to his injury prone-ness. Seems to have turned a corner with Juve fans judging by social media comments, generally more positive than negative currently. Yeah the Juventus fans have been full of praise which is quite a turn around from last season. I’m still not convinced though because even though he might be playing well it’s debatable whether he is being picked for the biggest games. Seems to make more sense to me that he should have been involved against Atalanta rather than Parma who are a dog of a side, Gervinho up front ffs 😂. Now the champions league group stage is over it will be interesting to see when he plays. I understand managing injuries and such but he does seem to be used very sparingly indeed and is substituted as soon as Juventus have a two goal cushion. |
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Post by iot on Dec 20, 2020 17:22:04 GMT
Played 68 mins tonight, played well - assisted Ronaldo for 3rd goal (although was a bit of a tackle assist similar to Bale > Neil Taylor vs Russia). Obvious that Pirlo is managing his minutes due to his injury prone-ness. Seems to have turned a corner with Juve fans judging by social media comments, generally more positive than negative currently. Yeah the Juventus fans have been full of praise which is quite a turn around from last season. I’m still not convinced though because even though he might be playing well it’s debatable whether he is being picked for the biggest games. Seems to make more sense to me that he should have been involved against Atalanta rather than Parma who are a dog of a side, Gervinho up front ffs 😂. Now the champions league group stage is over it will be interesting to see when he plays. I understand managing injuries and such but he does seem to be used very sparingly indeed and is substituted as soon as Juventus have a two goal cushion. Surely substituting him when they're comfortably in the lead suggests he is an important player for them they wish to protect |
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Post by insertname on Dec 20, 2020 18:46:08 GMT
Yeah the Juventus fans have been full of praise which is quite a turn around from last season. I’m still not convinced though because even though he might be playing well it’s debatable whether he is being picked for the biggest games. Seems to make more sense to me that he should have been involved against Atalanta rather than Parma who are a dog of a side, Gervinho up front ffs 😂. Now the champions league group stage is over it will be interesting to see when he plays. I understand managing injuries and such but he does seem to be used very sparingly indeed and is substituted as soon as Juventus have a two goal cushion. Surely substituting him when they're comfortably in the lead suggests he is an important player for them they wish to protect True but the downside is he plays even less than you would ordinarily expect. From memory he doesn’t play more than an hour in any particular game and does not usually play consecutive games. Obviously we all know why but I doubt playing too little is beneficial when it comes to building up form. Based on the last few weeks though he should be fit for the Euros at this rate! That’s if they take place though, of course.... |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Dec 22, 2020 21:49:03 GMT
Lots of calls for Pirlo to go after another defeat tonight. If Milan win their game in hand tomorrow, there'll be ten points between them, and it'll look increasingly like the title will be going to Milan (either for AC or Inter).
Ramsey started, but was subbed off when Cuadrado got sent off after '20.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 26, 2020 11:48:59 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jan 3, 2021 21:00:19 GMT
A goal and an assist.
We got our Aaron back ;-)
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