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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2018 10:29:20 GMT
Tonight was a great example of why Ramsey frustrates me. He struggles to make an impact against top quality opponents in the key games. 11 goals this season yet none against 'the big four'. Roundly criticised v man city, "went missing" to quote another poster on here against Ireland and largely anonymous tonight bar a header at the death that drew a good save from the keeper. Is all that really going to get the pulses of Barcelona, Man City and Bayern Munich racing? Absolute rubbish. I watched the whole game and thought he played well. He's not going to score in every game but he put in a solid 7/10 performance and was heavily involved in all aspects of play. His header at the end was a great leap and technique and would have gone in nine times out of ten - it was a truly miraculous save from oblak. Had that gone in, everyone would be raving about him again. It's nonsense to suggest he can't do it against the big teams. Looking at whoscored - he's started against top teams (Atletico, AC Milan, Man City, Chelsea, Man U, Lpool and Spurs) in ten games this season and has scored or assisted four times in those games - including that amazing assist against Man U and quality goal against AC Milan. That's hardly a bad return. He's also had several top quality performances that I can recall against each of those teams in recent seasons. The agenda against Rambo among some of our supporters seems to go on. Strange, strange stuff. |
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Post by richierich333 on Apr 27, 2018 10:40:20 GMT
Tonight was a great example of why Ramsey frustrates me. He struggles to make an impact against top quality opponents in the key games. 11 goals this season yet none against 'the big four'. Roundly criticised v man city, "went missing" to quote another poster on here against Ireland and largely anonymous tonight bar a header at the death that drew a good save from the keeper. Is all that really going to get the pulses of Barcelona, Man City and Bayern Munich racing? Absolute rubbish. I watched the whole game and thought he played well. He's not going to score in every game but he put in a solid 7/10 performance and was heavily involved in all aspects of play. His header at the end was a great leap and technique and would have gone in nine times out of ten - it was a truly miraculous save from oblak. Had that gone in, everyone would be raving about him again. It's nonsense to suggest he can't do it against the big teams. Looking at whoscored - he's started against top teams (Atletico, AC Milan, Man City, Chelsea, Man U, Lpool and Spurs) in ten games this season and has scored or assisted four times in those games - including that amazing assist against Man U and quality goal against AC Milan. That's hardly a bad return. He's also had several top quality performances that I can recall against each of those teams in recent seasons. The agenda against Rambo among some of our supporters seems to go on. Strange, strange stuff. It was only one poster that I saw to be fair but the rest of this i agree with. He was solid but by no means poor yesterday and no worse than the other players certainly. |
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2018 12:25:47 GMT
This issue I have is that I would love to see the Ramsey that is talked about on here turn up for Wales games because if he did we would not have lost to Ireland. The Ramsey that is talked about on here would have helped us beat Serbia at home and Ireland away. Sadly you don't know which Ramsey will turn up, to the point where consensus was that Allen was the second name on the team sheet because he always brings a certain level of performance. When hope was slipping away after losing Bale, then Allen, we turned to a 17 year old because Ramsey couldn't produce the goods. A few weeks later one of his peers put in a clutch performance and scored a hat trick against the same opposition. Those headlines should have been Ramsey's but he didn't step up because he can't produce it consistently enough. That is precisely why imo he will struggle to climb up the league.
Wake me up if he scores or assists in the Wanda Metropolitano- only 4 sides have scored there this season so the big stage is set for him. Which Ramsey will turn up? The one who plays for Wales? The one who scores against West Ham? Or the one who could briefly have been called world class during Euro 2016?
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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2018 12:39:29 GMT
This issue I have is that I would love to see the Ramsey that is talked about on here turn up for Wales games because if he did we would not have lost to Ireland. The Ramsey that is talked about on here would have helped us beat Serbia at home and Ireland away. Sadly you don't know which Ramsey will turn up, to the point where consensus was that Allen was the second name on the team sheet because he always brings a certain level of performance. When hope was slipping away after losing Bale, then Allen, we turned to a 17 year old because Ramsey couldn't produce the goods. A few weeks later one of his peers put in a clutch performance and scored a hat trick against the same opposition. Those headlines should have been Ramsey's but he didn't step up because he can't produce it consistently enough. That is precisely why imo he will struggle to climb up the league. Wake me up if he scores or assists in the Wanda Metropolitano- only 4 sides have scored there this season so the big stage is set for him. Which Ramsey will turn up? The one who plays for Wales? The one who scores against West Ham? Or the one who could briefly have been called world class during Euro 2016? "This issue I have is that I would love to see the Ramsey that is talked about on here turn up for Wales games because if he did we would not have lost to Ireland." You must have missed the Euros... Allen will be more consistent because his job is far simpler - he breaks things up and keeps us ticking over. Ramsey's role is to provide the flair, to make things happen - sometimes it works and he does the sublime, other times it doesn't and he looks like a lemon. But, in my opinion, he's by far our second most important player because he brings the creativity. That does mean, however, that he relies on others - either to set up chances for him or to be on the end of chances. That's why, against Ireland without Bale and Allen, he didn't have the quality around him to do what he needed, resulting in him trying to do everything himself and leading to one or two farcical moments. |
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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2018 12:43:10 GMT
Also, just to add - I don't know how many times I've watched Arsenal and Spurs play and the likes of Ozil and Erikson have been anonymous. So the reference you made to Erikson's performance against Ireland is completely misleading - remember that was in the second leg, you may remember the first ended 0-0 with erikson doing nothing at all. There is no player on earth who can turn it on every game, but what we've seen from ramsey is that he can turn it on almost as well as any other midfielder out there and he does it relatively consistently too.
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Post by manulike on May 3, 2018 10:28:21 GMT
Rambo to play in a Lyon Final.
Yes. I believe in miracles.
Time for some Hot Chocolate
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Post by manulike on May 3, 2018 21:02:28 GMT
Ramsey was excellent and was unfortunate not to have had three assists ...
This Hot Chocolate goes out to Mr diego costa ...
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Post by CrackityJones on May 3, 2018 21:12:05 GMT
Played a blinder to be fair, gutted for him. Atletico are tougher to crack than a walnut at christmas, epecially at home. |
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Post by leggybach on May 4, 2018 10:33:04 GMT
Played a blinder to be fair, gutted for him. Atletico are tougher to crack than a walnut at christmas, epecially at home. Were we watching the same game? Was arguably one of Arsenal's best players first half and created Arsenal's two best chances, but was absolutely anonymous in the second half, ran into plenty of blind alleys and gave the ball away cheaply too often. Please let's stop being biased. |
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Post by welshiron on May 4, 2018 10:36:21 GMT
In fairness he created 3 very good chances which other players missed, thatvis a lot in one game
Not as good in second half probably trying too hard for the killer pass.
Also thought he was Arsenal's best player
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Post by CrackityJones on May 4, 2018 12:08:57 GMT
Played a blinder to be fair, gutted for him. Atletico are tougher to crack than a walnut at christmas, epecially at home. Were we watching the same game? Was arguably one of Arsenal's best players first half and created Arsenal's two best chances, but was absolutely anonymous in the second half, ran into plenty of blind alleys and gave the ball away cheaply too often. Please let's stop being biased. Blimey easy tiger. He put in a cracking shift yesterday driving the team forward time after time. Big shame he couldn't grace his first European final.
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Post by insertname on May 4, 2018 12:55:34 GMT
Played a blinder to be fair, gutted for him. Atletico are tougher to crack than a walnut at christmas, epecially at home. Were we watching the same game? Was arguably one of Arsenal's best players first half and created Arsenal's two best chances, but was absolutely anonymous in the second half, ran into plenty of blind alleys and gave the ball away cheaply too often. Please let's stop being biased. Exactly, you won't find this sort of praise for him anywhere else on the internet and saying he is Arsenal's best player is pushing it a bit as they would have been dead and buried if it weren't for Chambers vital blocks- he was the stand out Arsenal player as Ramsey faded from the game. Not the worst but not the best in a pretty insipid Arsenal performance. In terms of stats he had 75% passing accuracy and his team registered one shot on target in the biggest game of their season. Not great, excusable perhaps in that Atletico are a tier 1 side while Arsenal are Europa league quality at best. Can't doubt his work rate but he seems to play these high profile games where nothing comes off and he gets worse as the game goes on. He will probably score against Huddersfield now in a pyrrhic victory that will sum his season up. |
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Post by welshiron on May 4, 2018 14:18:31 GMT
You fail to mention the 3 very good chances he created Mr poor man's Durham
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Post by richierich333 on May 4, 2018 14:29:33 GMT
I have to be honest, I didn't see this 'man of the match' performance yesterday either. He nearly had an assist did he? I love Ramsey but he gets rave reviews for average performances sometimes on here.
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Post by welshiron on May 4, 2018 14:30:52 GMT
Also pass completion will be totally different for someone trying to create chances rather than pass sideways and backwards
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Post by welshiron on May 4, 2018 14:32:17 GMT
I have to be honest, I didn't see this 'man of the match' performance yesterday either. He nearly had an assist did he? I love Ramsey but he gets rave reviews for average performances sometimes on here.[/q uote] Godin was mom for me. Ramsey was the only Arsenal player who created anything |
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Post by fiveattheback on May 4, 2018 15:41:01 GMT
Ramsey was probably Arsenal's best payer last night, but that's not saying much
Ozil is one of the laziest players I've seen and should have been taken off ahead of Wilshere
Ozil's laziness and Xhaka's ineffectiveness heaps so much extra running on Ramsey its ridiculous. He ran himself into the ground last night
On another note, how is Welbeck playing for Arsenal? Utter shite.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 9, 2018 15:41:03 GMT
Ramsey was probably Arsenal's best payer last night, but that's not saying much Ozil is one of the laziest players I've seen and should have been taken off ahead of Wilshere Ozil's laziness and Xhaka's ineffectiveness heaps so much extra running on Ramsey its ridiculous. He ran himself into the ground last night On another note, how is Welbeck playing for Arsenal? Utter shite. They need to build that team around Ramsey now. Ship out the deadwood and get an identity again. |
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Post by insertname on May 9, 2018 16:10:28 GMT
Ramsey was probably Arsenal's best payer last night, but that's not saying much Ozil is one of the laziest players I've seen and should have been taken off ahead of Wilshere Ozil's laziness and Xhaka's ineffectiveness heaps so much extra running on Ramsey its ridiculous. He ran himself into the ground last night On another note, how is Welbeck playing for Arsenal? Utter shite. They need to build that team around Ramsey now. Ship out the deadwood and get an identity again. He could do Welsh football a favour by stepping up and ensuring Huddersfield are relegated and Swansea survive. However, Arsenal have a pathetic 0 away wins in 2018 and you have to fancy Huddersfield to embarrass them further by taking the point they need and sending Swansea down |
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Post by manulike on May 9, 2018 22:22:31 GMT
Don't let the 3-1 scoreline v Leicester fool you.
Rambo and the entire team had a great game. Played with 10 men for 80 minutes, and were certainly worthy of a draw.
Its been a long time since I have seen such passion and determination from the other boys (and not only from Rambo).
Box to Box 100mph match, that could easily have ended 5-5...
Mr Ozil was left at home, in London ...
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 10, 2018 10:45:59 GMT
Don't let the 3-1 scoreline v Leicester fool you. Rambo and the entire team had a great game. Played with 10 men for 80 minutes, and were certainly worthy of a draw. Its been a long time since I have seen such passion and determination from the other boys (and not only from Rambo). Box to Box 100mph match, that could easily have ended 5-5... Mr Ozil was left at home, in London ... You think they will now sell Ozil, since they tie him down to a contract there would be value in it. However, he certainly hasnt put himself in the shop window. But Rambo has been Arsenal's stand out player this year. |
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Post by fiveattheback on May 13, 2018 15:04:45 GMT
Captains Arsenal today
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Post by CrackityJones on May 18, 2018 14:00:33 GMT
Ramsey has been named Arsenal's player of the season:
'When you think of Ramsey at his very best you might naturally land on 2013/14 when he was involved in 18 Premier League goals and was hailed as one of the most exciting talents in Europe.
But it says much for how he has performed in 2017/18 that despite the team's form and some injury absences, he has only been involved in three goals less than that stellar season. And it underlines his status that his contribution this term has seen him take his place in our list of top-10 goalscorers under Wenger.
It has been another fine campaign for Ramsey, and with his best years ahead of him it is an exciting thought that he should only get even better.'
www.arsenal.com/news/player-season-aaron-ramsey
...and won goal of the season for this beaut:
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Post by abwales on May 22, 2018 20:20:37 GMT
Emery wants to build the team around our Aaron apparently. To stay or to go...
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Post by manulike on May 22, 2018 20:52:57 GMT
Emery wants to build the team around our Aaron apparently. To stay or to go... I have no idea who that is, but i like him already ;-)
#AaronPleaseStay
We've come a long long way together,
Through the hard times and the good,
I have to celebrate you baby,
I have to praise you like I should
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Post by fiveattheback on May 22, 2018 21:13:48 GMT
He'd be good for Cardiff
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Post by turkpower on May 23, 2018 5:50:39 GMT
Emery is a Dick. For the oldies.
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