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Post by welshwizard79 on Sept 26, 2011 20:40:51 GMT
It's bollocks just ignore it their arsenal fans who have been deluded with thier manager and team for years!
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Post by saints19 on Sept 27, 2011 1:09:02 GMT
It's a bit harsh for their fans to single out Ramsey when their whole team has been shocking this season.
Ramsey at least gives it 100%, and the talent is obviously there even if he isn't delivering it consistently at the moment.
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Post by gareth on Sept 27, 2011 7:46:57 GMT
I think those twitter posts are from 'non football' Arsenal fans, people who don't understand what a player like Ransey does. He makes it look so easy and so it doesn't always look like it's a difficult job. It's only when he's not playing that you notice what he does and brings to the game. I think Ramsey had a hand in 2 of the goals that Arsenal scored on the weekend, and in the red card - passing it through to walcott. Hardly what those twitter posts are saying!! I've been speaking to a 'long term' Arsenal fan who thinks Ramsey has been one of the only positives to take out of the season so far. He's not welsh biased, in fact he might be English.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 27, 2011 22:02:26 GMT
It's bollocks just ignore it their arsenal fans who have been deluded with thier manager and team for years!
Good point, Arsenal is after all in Islington they are all deluded from their ain't it a Labour party area and a manager who fills his team with sub-standard foreign donkeys.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by saints19 on Sept 27, 2011 22:39:53 GMT
Can I just say one thing, and feel free to get on my case for being a pedant:
Their = possessive form of 'they' - you use it when you're talking about what other people own.
As in: He is their biggest goal threat.
There: Pronoun for talking about a place which is far away or otherwise removed from the speaker.
As in: Our lads are over there (in NZ) right now playing in the World Cup.
They're: You use it to describe 3rd persons.
As in: They're useless. They couldn't hit a barn door from twelve yards.
Or: They're Arsenal fans who have been deluded with their manager and team for years.
Come on lads, it's not that hard.
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Post by matty on Sept 28, 2011 10:30:28 GMT
I think those twitter posts are from 'non football' Arsenal fans, people who don't understand what a player like Ransey does. He makes it look so easy and so it doesn't always look like it's a difficult job. It's only when he's not playing that you notice what he does and brings to the game. I think Ramsey had a hand in 2 of the goals that Arsenal scored on the weekend, and in the red card - passing it through to walcott. Hardly what those twitter posts are saying!! I've been speaking to a 'long term' Arsenal fan who thinks Ramsey has been one of the only positives to take out of the season so far. He's not welsh biased, in fact he might be English. I agree with this. I tell my boy who is 11 and plays centre midfield to watch Ramsey. My boy isn't the most skillful and I'm not expecting a football career for him, but 95% of the time Ramsey doesn't do anything difficult. He plays intelligent football with and without the ball, and those who slag him off don't understand the game. |
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Post by youngdragon on Sept 28, 2011 19:37:49 GMT
Ramsey is a carbon copy of Xavi, does the simple things very very well. I coach 6 times a week, as a coach you always tell your players its better to do the simple things well than the hollywood stuff crap.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 28, 2011 19:44:50 GMT
On the bench for Gunners tonight
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 28, 2011 23:18:06 GMT
Came on at roughly the same time as Van Persie- I suspect Wenger has this weekends north London derby in mind.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 29, 2011 15:05:18 GMT
An ever present in the league so far - how many league games, injuries permitting, will he start over the season?
I'm going to say...32-35.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 2, 2011 17:49:03 GMT
Watched the Arsenal Spurs game on sky and thought Rambo played well. Scored, always showed for the ball, a few misplaced passes but no more than say, Modric. Having looked at a few Arsenal forums, it's obvious that their fans have decided to make him the scapegoat for their problems... we need to show Rambo some love on Friday!!
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 2, 2011 18:24:07 GMT
Including one misplaced pass straight to Bale. Got Friday on his mind already.  |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 2, 2011 18:34:19 GMT
Including one misplaced pass straight to Bale.
Got Friday on his mind already.
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ha! I thought that too... Bale, very kindly, didn't punish him though!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2011 18:56:21 GMT
Watched the Arsenal Spurs game on sky and thought Rambo played well. Scored, always showed for the ball, a few misplaced passes but no more than say, Modric. Having looked at a few Arsenal forums, it's obvious that their fans have decided to make him the scapegoat for their problems... we need to show Rambo some love on Friday!! No mention of him switching off for Tottenhams winner, leading to him getting crucified (with some justification) by Gary Neville on Sky. No doubt Neville was just talking bollocks just like everyone else who dares to criticise the boy wonder  |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 2, 2011 19:04:59 GMT
He switched off - yes, it was a mistake and Neville crucified him, but the cynical part of me thinks that was the Neviller trying to take his revenge for the fact that Rambo turned United down, after taking the old trafford guided tour with, who was it again?...oh yes, Gary Neville.
Van De Vaart fell asleep for Arsenals goal, I didn't hear him get crucified.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Oct 2, 2011 20:00:32 GMT
Can I just say one thing, and feel free to get on my case for being a pedant: Their = possessive form of 'they' - you use it when you're talking about what other people own. As in: He is their biggest goal threat. There: Pronoun for talking about a place which is far away or otherwise removed from the speaker. As in: Our lads are over there (in NZ) right now playing in the World Cup. They're: You use it to describe 3rd persons. As in: They're useless. They couldn't hit a barn door from twelve yards. Or: They're Arsenal fans who have been deluded with their manager and team for years. Come on lads, it's not that hard. I do apologise for my grammatical errors but due to a very busy life I merely jump on this board when I can for a bit of fun and light relief. Therefore, I certainly don't proof read any comment I write on here purely because it's not important whatsoever. Also, I'd like to think that my academic skills have served me pretty well so far in life. So as your being particularly petty I will take more care in future Sir! |
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Post by idiot on Oct 3, 2011 2:57:35 GMT
am i wrong in saying goal apart he didnt do much during the match earlier???its not a cricitism as such,lampards done very well by being invisible for long periods then popping up with a goal
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 3, 2011 10:36:59 GMT
Gave the ball away a few times early on too... but despite not having his best game he always showed for the ball. It thought he was better than Arteta, but it seems Arsenaol fans had a big secret meeting and decided to make Ramsey the scapegoat for all their problems. Its kind of sickening considering he's a 20 year old kid who's not long been back following an injury many thought would end his career. From our point of view, the stick he's getting could be a good tyhing because I'd imagine he's relishing pulling on the Welsh shirt again at this point.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 3, 2011 12:00:33 GMT
Can I just say one thing, and feel free to get on my case for being a pedant: Their = possessive form of 'they' - you use it when you're talking about what other people own. As in: He is their biggest goal threat. There: Pronoun for talking about a place which is far away or otherwise removed from the speaker. As in: Our lads are over there (in NZ) right now playing in the World Cup. They're: You use it to describe 3rd persons. As in: They're useless. They couldn't hit a barn door from twelve yards. Or: They're Arsenal fans who have been deluded with their manager and team for years. Come on lads, it's not that hard. I do apologise for my grammatical errors but due to a very busy life I merely jump on this board when I can for a bit of fun and light relief. Therefore, I certainly don't proof read any comment I write on here purely because it's not important whatsoever. Also, I'd like to think that my academic skills have served me pretty well so far in life. So as your being particularly petty I will take more care in future Sir! Ah, so close.  |
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Post by welshorp on Oct 3, 2011 19:48:07 GMT
You're ?? Am I right??
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 3, 2011 19:51:57 GMT
small 'y' and I think you've (as in 'you have') got it!
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Post by saints19 on Oct 4, 2011 0:33:15 GMT
Gold star for welshorp. But see flynnfan's post, no need for a capital there. ;D |
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Post by blaenrhonddaboyo on Oct 4, 2011 7:46:29 GMT
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Post by texan on Oct 4, 2011 10:18:53 GMT
I can agree with some of the comments that he isn't having the best time of it at the moment, he has made a few loose passes of late and has tended to switch off on a couple of costly occaions. Ramsey's not at his best right now, but to expect a 20 year old lad (however promising he is) to single-handedly sort out Arsenal's form is very naive on the Arsenal fans' part. The fact they're focussing on Ramsey whilst neglecting other glaring problems in the side shows their lack of knowledge about the way their own team's set up.
There are numerous reasons why Arsenal are crap at the moment, one of the most glaring is that their defence leaks like a sieve and they're badly missing Vermaelen, also that other 'flair' players like Arshavin, Walcott and Gervinho have been wasteful in possession...on many occasions moreso than Ramsey.
I accept the bloke's comments in that blog that Ramsey wasn't supporting Van Persie like Fabregas did, but then I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the room when Wenger was giving Ramsey his instructions for Sunday so how the hell he can comment on that aspect of things I don't know.
When attacking, most of Arsenal's good stuff either comes through Ramsey or originates from him, and he does often get into great positions in and around the opposition box only his team mates don't pick him out, against Utd Arshavin was constantly running at their defence only to either trip over the ball or get dispossessed, all the while Ramsey's lurking on the edge of the box screaming for the pass. This happened again on Sunday with Walcott and Gervinho both guilty on more than one occasion.
He's made mistakes but he's nowhere near as bad as some of these muppest make out. At least this will be one hell of a test of his character, hopefully a break with Wales will let him show people what he can really do again.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 4, 2011 13:19:17 GMT
Great post texan. Ramsey wasn't at his best sunday, but then neither was Wallcott. Or Van Persie. Or Mertesacke. With Fabregas and Nasri gone, wilshere injured and Song forced to play in defence Ramsey desn't have anything like the quality of player around him that he's been used to. And he can't be taken out of the side to rest because of their lack of fit players. (maybe they need to get dutch Ray involved!)
My feeling is that Wenger hung Ramsey out to dry and the fans have decided to make him the scapegoat. We need to show him some love on Friday!
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Post by stu on Oct 9, 2011 20:56:51 GMT
Ramsey is a carbon copy of Xavi, does the simple things very very well. I coach 6 times a week, as a coach you always tell your players its better to do the simple things well than the hollywood stuff crap. Watching the highlights today and I remembered this comment. He did try a couple of "hollywood" moves and he buggered them up. One was a dummy/side foot pass to Bellamy(who was in on goal) and it went straight to the Swiss. Don't get me wrong, I really like the guy and he's surely the man we build our team around for the next 10-15 years (I hope) but he needs to stop trying so hard to do everything himself. Especially now when the talent gap between him and the rest of the squad isn't as great. |
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Post by welshposh on Oct 9, 2011 21:53:01 GMT
I love him but I don't think he played well on Friday. He gave the ball away a couple of times when under no pressure and I think he stopped the forward momentum a couple of times when a quicker pass could have seen us put one of the wing players into space with the ball.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 9, 2011 21:53:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 22:16:13 GMT
I love him but I don't think he played well on Friday. He gave the ball away a couple of times when under no pressure and I think he stopped the forward momentum a couple of times when a quicker pass could have seen us put one of the wing players into space with the ball. [/quote I said a while back that he slows us down at times which is counter productive when you have players like Bellamy and Bale on the pitch. Im glad other people can see it too. On the whole I thought he was better than against Montenegro, I wonder when he will consistently start to play like he did at Wembley? Bale is displaying the level that top players have to reach putting in consistent world beating performances, will Ramsey reach that level and how far away is it? Also I never thought I would ever criticise a players goal celebration but did everyone else think it was sort of bizarre that he didnt celebrate putting the penalty away, considering it was the opening goal? Fair enough he was undoubtedly relieved at putting it in but right now we are fighting our way back from the brink and taking the lead against the Swiss is a real achievement- it has to be worth at least a bit of emotion, surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 22:22:22 GMT
Its not right to scapegoat him, but as we saw against the Swiss he is far from perfect and if he plays like that for Arsenal week in week out then people will (justifiably) have a moan. Thats what happens when you play for a club like Arsenal, the standard is high no matter what age you are so you have to come in from day one and prove your worth. Admittedly from what I saw in recent matches he has been no worse than anyone else and has played some decent through balls, but its always difficult to think we know better than the fans who watch him week in week out. His recent Wales performances have been a patchy mix of brilliance (Wembley) and good and bad bits (Monty and v the Swiss). Is that enough to justify us in saying the Arsenal fans are out of order? I daresay if he had signed for Fulham he would be treated rather better by fans but thats expectation when you play for a club that (used to! ;D ) regularly qualify for the Champions league. |
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