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Post by toshfan on Oct 17, 2013 11:48:27 GMT
I very much hope that Harry Wilson gets two years or so in an u21 set up taken seriously by FAW, supporters and Senior team manager alike.
Agree that Coleman would have been slated had he not put Wilson on. In fairness to Coleman, and to his credit, that would not have been driver to sending him on.
On balance the right thing to do!
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Post by matty on Oct 17, 2013 11:54:33 GMT
I can see both sides of the argument, but having been at the match I can tell you most fans wanted him capped. As he was warming up below us his name was been sung, the anticipation when he was talking with Coleman, and the cheer when he actually got brought on tells you how paranoid we all were! Ultimately bigger countries than us have capped players to stop them from playing for anyone else...I'm glad we've got another young star in the making.
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Post by Bass Drum Barry on Oct 17, 2013 13:28:36 GMT
I find this a bit weird too. Maybe they'll both be in the u21s to face England though? We'll need our best u21 players for those games. Will the Horns be there? Maybe some of us individually but not with instruments, I don't think. It's difficult to get us all together really though never say never! |
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Post by welshiron on Oct 17, 2013 15:40:40 GMT
Has Coleman received any credit for calling up in the first place.
I'm on the fence with this as I don't think he has warranted gaining a cap but would hate for the young man to have his head turned.
Could the Lloyd Jones supporters comment on whether Wilson knows his own mind at 16 more than Lloyd Jones did?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 16:54:08 GMT
Conversely, what does it say to those Welsh youngsters plying their trade in the 21's, "sorry lads we think more of this younster than you guys, we don't care if England come for you"
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Post by llannerch on Oct 18, 2013 12:33:17 GMT
Did Paul Mardon or Ryan Green or Marcus Browning or Lee Nogan all really display such sparkling form at club level to get their call ups? So I can't think that picking Wilson was any more demeaning to us than picking Ryan Green. Mardon et al had at least played first team football. And more than a few minutes of reserve team football too. On that basis they deserved a call up more than Wilson. It isn't demeaning that Wilson was picked, it is demeaning if he was picked just to spite England. There are no doubt other 16, 17 and 18 year olds in our age-grade squads who are dual qualified. Presumably, to be on the safe side, we should have picked a few of them in the other qualifying games? |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 18, 2013 12:50:16 GMT
Mardon et al had at least played first team football.
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I don't think Ryan Green did?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 14:11:57 GMT
Bellamy concurred with you. Talking of which, it's now up to WILSON himself to knuckle down and not become Ryan Green mk 2. Sorry, who's Ryan Green? |
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Post by texan on Oct 18, 2013 14:23:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 14:26:59 GMT
Cheers!
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Post by texan on Oct 18, 2013 14:37:48 GMT
Had an argument over Green in a football-themed pub quiz couple of years back at the Courthouse in Caerphilly.
The smart-arse quiz master said Nyatanga as the answer, he wouldn't even entertain the idea he was wrong, thought I was taking the piss just to wind him up.
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 18, 2013 16:01:31 GMT
Had an argument over Green in a football-themed pub quiz couple of years back at the Courthouse in Caerphilly. The smart-arse quiz master said Nyatanga as the answer, he wouldn't even entertain the idea he was wrong, thought I was taking the piss just to wind him up. But Nyatanga did beat Green's record to become our youngest player? |
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Post by texan on Oct 18, 2013 18:07:04 GMT
Lol, sorry...question was "who broke Giggs' record as Wales' youngest player"...omitted that fairly important detail there!
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Post by biwmares on Oct 23, 2013 21:50:32 GMT
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Post by cwdyn on Oct 23, 2013 22:17:28 GMT
Similar to Bale in way he runs and directness.
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Post by djb77 on Oct 23, 2013 22:25:14 GMT
Similar to Bale in way he runs and directness. Movement reminded me more of another young Wilson, who played for England school boys. |
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Post by llannerch on Oct 24, 2013 13:40:08 GMT
He's all left foot. Rubbish
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 24, 2013 14:41:31 GMT
He's all left foot. Rubbish Just like the other young Wilson then! |
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Post by welshiron on Nov 12, 2013 10:50:15 GMT
Can someone please explain why he isn't with the U19s. Declan John is going so surely this would benefit Harry and Wales.
This also goes back to the media, can you imagine nothing being asked if England had capped a 16 year old and then just left him on a standby list
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 18:01:25 GMT
I wonder if he's good enough to have an opportunity to play at liverpool at a young age like Raheem Sterling? If not then surely he's not going to play for us for a few years, which would mean that his debut was a little bit rushed and pointless? (I don't believe in capping a player just to make sure he doesn't switch boats)
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Post by welshiron on Nov 12, 2013 18:07:37 GMT
I agree personally wouldn't of capped him, however seems to have done wonders for his confidence.
Should be gaining experience now with the U19s like I said above
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 18:16:07 GMT
Surely he could be a part of the U21s Campaign as well. I wonder how Chris Dawson of Leeds United is getting on this season? (off topic sorry)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 18:16:59 GMT
Harry Wilson made his first U21 appearances this afternoon, as #LFC drew with Sevilla 1-1.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 12, 2013 22:22:10 GMT
Surely he could be a part of the U21s Campaign as well. I wonder how Chris Dawson of Leeds United is getting on this season? (off topic sorry) I would hope/imagine he might get called up for the next u21 game vs England. We'll need all our best u21 players for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 22:47:58 GMT
He's in the senior squad, so not as if he has been capped then ignored.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Nov 12, 2013 22:57:22 GMT
He's in the senior squad, so not as if he has been capped then ignored. He's not in the senior squad he's on the standby list hence the question why isn't he playing with the 19s? Looks like he's been selected to go to Sevilla with Liverpool 21s but surely should be with the 19s in competitive games. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 23:29:47 GMT
Apologies I mis-read the original squad posting
However two more, Vaughan and Crofts have withdrawn from senior squad today, so a few more and he may be in with a shout of a call up.
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Post by Bass Drum Barry on Nov 13, 2013 10:48:56 GMT
I wonder if he's good enough to have an opportunity to play at liverpool at a young age like Raheem Sterling? If not then surely he's not going to play for us for a few years, which would mean that his debut was a little bit rushed and pointless? (I don't believe in capping a player just to make sure he doesn't switch boats) I think a major factor in Sterling getting so much first team football at a young age was the real lack of attacking options Liverpool had at the time. If Harry Wilson broke into the Liverpool first team side now, with the wealth of options they have (comparatively), it would be a far greater achievement than Sterling's. |
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Post by biwmares on Jan 16, 2014 8:30:07 GMT
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Post by alarch on Jan 16, 2014 13:07:13 GMT
Jordan Williams, Welsh-speaker from Bangor featured at centre back in that game. Worth keeping an eye on too.
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