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Post by CymruFach on Dec 11, 2015 0:02:36 GMT
I hope you do get one but I can say that tournament ticket holders have never got member benefits for away games just discounted home tickets When tournament tickets were introduced for the tournament where we beat Italy, and lost to Russia in the play off, we were advised that Tournament ticket holders would be given priority for Finals tickets if we qualified. That has NEVER been rescinded, and there was no reason to believe that it was any different this time. i have never said that they gave you priority for away games, but you have to stop thinking of the 'finals' as 'away' games. They are not home or away games, they are the finals at a NEUTRAL venue. Home tournament ticket holders should also have priority, although I agree second priority after those that follow home and away. As it stands home season ticket holders have been thoroughly stuffed by these ticketing arrangements. They are giving Away travel members priority as well as gold members, why not give priority to their home season ticket holders also? It is not too late to change it, and it would be the right thing to do.
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Post by captainhaddock on Dec 11, 2015 0:08:20 GMT
I dont have a credit card, no need for one, debit card should be enough never heard of having to use credit before to buy tickets.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 0:30:14 GMT
I will check about the wording on the first tournament tickets re priority for away tickets or finals tickets I know for sure that it was not part of this tournament ticket promotion, if it was the FAW would be in breach of the rules, it doesn't have to be reminded or removed from the tournament ticket promotions as there is a new one each campaign. only gold and junior members will get an access number ,no one else will...without that number you can't apply for tickets...please only use credit cards or your application for tickets will be void...IT HAS TO BE A CREDIT CARD
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Post by helipad138 on Dec 11, 2015 0:45:43 GMT
The membership isn't just an away membership, it gives priority for home games/tournament tickets too and I've always been under the impression that, for the past few campaigns at least, that it would give priority for tickets in the event that we qualified too.
Thanks for your efforts in getting further information for us Corky.
I hope that FAW can still give a bit more info about the number of tickets in each category and how exactly the priority policy will work, so that no-one will miss out just by choosing wrng ticket type.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 11, 2015 1:42:49 GMT
Bloody crap it has to be a credit card. If the payment by debit card was declined fair enough but to say they can't be used is utter crap.
I better get one just for this.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 1:53:29 GMT
The membership isn't just an away membership, it gives priority for home games/tournament tickets too and I've always been under the impression that, for the past few campaigns at least, that it would give priority for tickets in the event that we qualified too. Thanks for your efforts in getting further information for us Corky. I hope that FAW can still give a bit more info about the number of tickets in each category and how exactly the priority policy will work, so that no-one will miss out just by choosing wrng ticket type. When applying for tickets make sure you TICK the box that allows UEFA to give you tickets in the next best category if what you wanted is full...the priority process can only be worked out in February or late January when the FAW receive the information from UEFA re how many ticket applications were sent in.
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Post by evans1282 on Dec 11, 2015 6:25:38 GMT
Didn't become a member on principle, knew that would give me problems if we qualified,so no complaints from me on that score.Priority to regular away supporters obvious no complaints again,but I'm sorry no amount of its not our fault bullshit justifies 2 tickets per member,shite state of affairs.
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Post by pengedragon on Dec 11, 2015 7:28:05 GMT
Yeah 2 per member is disappointing
Saying they are giving priority to away travel fans and gold members is wrong, they are the same thing. You can't go away without a membership, it's been that way for quite a while now
I think it was made clear at the start of this campaign what a tournament ticket would get you and what a membership might give you a chance at, not sure you can really go back to the wording of the 2004 campaign to justify anything
Have a feeling anyone who wants to see a game will be able to, let's hope for a couple of the bigger capacity grounds in the draw tomorrow
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Post by mc2810 on Dec 11, 2015 9:15:03 GMT
I used a debit card to pay for tickets in the summer ballot, didn't have any problems. Did you win tickets? Aye, 1 group game (f1 v f2) and a round of 16 game. Like I said I used my debit card to apply and pay for these without any issues.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 11, 2015 9:17:19 GMT
The membership isn't just an away membership, it gives priority for home games/tournament tickets too and I've always been under the impression that, for the past few campaigns at least, that it would give priority for tickets in the event that we qualified too. Thanks for your efforts in getting further information for us Corky. I hope that FAW can still give a bit more info about the number of tickets in each category and how exactly the priority policy will work, so that no-one will miss out just by choosing wrng ticket type. This was my understanding too
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Post by ger27 on Dec 11, 2015 9:49:51 GMT
The membership isn't just an away membership, it gives priority for home games/tournament tickets too and I've always been under the impression that, for the past few campaigns at least, that it would give priority for tickets in the event that we qualified too. Thanks for your efforts in getting further information for us Corky. I hope that FAW can still give a bit more info about the number of tickets in each category and how exactly the priority policy will work, so that no-one will miss out just by choosing wrng ticket type. This was my understanding too And mine. In fact, T&Cs are quite clear: www.eticketing.co.uk/fawtickets-english/staticpages/termsandconditions.aspx"Should Wales qualify for the final stage of the tournament, or a play-off match, then priority will be given to paid-up Euro 2016 Qualifying Campaign members when it comes to allocating tickets."
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Post by BA Baracus on Dec 11, 2015 10:52:17 GMT
So members can get tickets for non members? Members can apply for 2 tickets, the application will come back to Lucy who then decides who is eligible but yes you can apply for two tickets HiCorky, thanks for all the details. Valuable info and your effort and diligence are appreciated. I have two queries relating to the above statement... What criteria will Lucy be using to determine who is eligible or not? The other question is, if someone was to apply for two tickets, and Lucy was to determine they were NOT eligible for two tickets, would that application then be rejected completely or would the applicant still be able to receive one ticket? In other words, is it all or nothing? Also, a third question... are Silver Memberships from the 2014 WC campaign being included in criteria or just Gold & Junior? It would seem unfair to exclude them.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 11, 2015 11:10:43 GMT
Members can apply for 2 tickets, the application will come back to Lucy who then decides who is eligible but yes you can apply for two tickets HiCorky, thanks for all the details. Valuable info and your effort and diligence are appreciated. I have two queries relating to the above statement... What criteria will Lucy be using to determine who is eligible or not? The other question is, if someone was to apply for two tickets, and Lucy was to determine they were NOT eligible for two tickets, would that application then be rejected completely or would the applicant still be able to receive one ticket? In other words, is it all or nothing? Also, a third question... are Silver Memberships from the 2014 WC campaign being included in criteria or just Gold & Junior? It would seem unfair to exclude them. There was only gold for 2014? I think 2012 had silver and red etc.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Dec 11, 2015 11:10:45 GMT
Thanks for the update Corky - you've answered a lot of questions, its a shame there are still a few things that are unclear! The other question is, if someone was to apply for two tickets, and Lucy was to determine they were NOT eligible for two tickets, would that application then be rejected completely or would the applicant still be able to receive one ticket? In other words, is it all or nothing? I'm very confused about this too and I guess its something that no-one will really know the answer to. On the basis of 'loyalty' it'll be impossible to prove anything regarding the 'second' ticket so logically each member should get one ticket first, then if there are any spares the extras should go to those that requested two? But I imagine in practice this will be hard to implement, which could mean half of the members getting two tickets, and the rest getting none. I see this as a particular problem if we get a game in a smaller venue.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 11:20:22 GMT
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 11:28:43 GMT
Thanks for the update Corky - you've answered a lot of questions, its a shame there are still a few things that are unclear! The other question is, if someone was to apply for two tickets, and Lucy was to determine they were NOT eligible for two tickets, would that application then be rejected completely or would the applicant still be able to receive one ticket? In other words, is it all or nothing? I'm very confused about this too and I guess its something that no-one will really know the answer to. On the basis of 'loyalty' it'll be impossible to prove anything regarding the 'second' ticket so logically each member should get one ticket first, then if there are any spares the extras should go to those that requested two? But I imagine in practice this will be hard to implement, which could mean half of the members getting two tickets, and the rest getting none. I see this as a particular problem if we get a game in a smaller venue. The system UEFA have put in place means Wales fans can apply for one or two tickets on the strength of their 1876 Wales Supporters Club MEMBERSHIP. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO THE SECOND TICKET IS FOR ONLY THE APPLICANTS DETAILS ARE REQUIRED TO PURCHASE TICKETS.
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Post by pengedragon on Dec 11, 2015 11:36:17 GMT
sorry if i'm being dense here, are we going back 3 memberships? the 1876 membership started with the 2012 campaign, that right ?
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Post by mx47 on Dec 11, 2015 11:41:41 GMT
Thanks for the update Corky - you've answered a lot of questions, its a shame there are still a few things that are unclear! The other question is, if someone was to apply for two tickets, and Lucy was to determine they were NOT eligible for two tickets, would that application then be rejected completely or would the applicant still be able to receive one ticket? In other words, is it all or nothing? I'm very confused about this too and I guess its something that no-one will really know the answer to. On the basis of 'loyalty' it'll be impossible to prove anything regarding the 'second' ticket so logically each member should get one ticket first, then if there are any spares the extras should go to those that requested two? But I imagine in practice this will be hard to implement, which could mean half of the members getting two tickets, and the rest getting none. I see this as a particular problem if we get a game in a smaller venue. Corky, I too would like some clarification on this issue. The 2 ticket per applicant is clearly a tactic to make sure that UEFA sell as many tickets as possible (and I get that). If we get a game in Stade De France where our allocation is around the 13/14000 mark we could well struggle to sell out if it were limited to 1 per member. UEFA will not be overly worried if stadiums are not full.....just that they sell the tickets. However, if we get a game e.g in St Etienne where our allocation is say, around 8000 it would be wrong imo that the first 4000 members get 2 tickets each meaning the next 4000 members on the "loyalty list" go without. I'd like to think that FAW ticket staff apply some common sense and then limit the first 4000 to 1 ticket each making sure that as many members get a single ticket as possible. To make that work properly I think we need to know "if you meet the qualifying criteria and you apply for 2 tickets will you be downgraded to 1 or 0?" in the aforementioned or similar circumstances. If there is a danger of 2 or 0 then people will be reluctant to apply for 2. Thanks.
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Post by markyg on Dec 11, 2015 11:43:34 GMT
not sure if this has been covered yet but when can we expect the code to apply for tickets - will this be an e-mail? thanks
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 11:49:33 GMT
Ah, I see what your point is, I will have to seek clarification myself on that, there is plenty of time to get these details as you do not have to apply until the middle of January if you prefer to wait( it makes no difference when you apply)
I think the question will become much clearer when we know the exact venues and capacity or allocation we are being offered. However if 5000 apply for 2 tickets {10,000 tickets) for an allocation of 8,000 Welsh tickets, will the FAW decide to just allow the first 4,000 top of the list applicants to buy the lot, or start reducing applicants to one ticket?
From Sunday members will get their access codes by e mail or post if you have no e mail
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Post by matty on Dec 11, 2015 11:53:30 GMT
Getting an updated credit card is not as easy as I thought it would be. Mine expires in June 2016 and the company (not a bank) will not give me a later expiry date. Even if I say I've lost it they will still issue a new one with June 2016.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Dec 11, 2015 11:54:14 GMT
Thanks for the update Corky - you've answered a lot of questions, its a shame there are still a few things that are unclear! I'm very confused about this too and I guess its something that no-one will really know the answer to. On the basis of 'loyalty' it'll be impossible to prove anything regarding the 'second' ticket so logically each member should get one ticket first, then if there are any spares the extras should go to those that requested two? But I imagine in practice this will be hard to implement, which could mean half of the members getting two tickets, and the rest getting none. I see this as a particular problem if we get a game in a smaller venue. The system UEFA have put in place means Wales fans can apply for one or two tickets on the strength of their 1876 Wales Supporters Club MEMBERSHIP. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHO THE SECOND TICKET IS FOR ONLY THE APPLICANTS DETAILS ARE REQUIRED TO PURCHASE TICKETS. I understand that, it was kind of my point! Clearly a lot depends on the venues as you say, I guess its just a case of getting our applications in and crossing our fingers, I'm going to try not to worry about it any further.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 11:54:52 GMT
sorry if i'm being dense here, are we going back 3 memberships? the 1876 membership started with the 2012 campaign, that right ? All members are eligible to apply during the application window of 14 Dec to 18 Jan. Once the window has closed, UEFA will send us the data of all applications and FAW will sort them into priority order using the loyalty system. We will take into account the last two memberships as well as the current one, home and away matches, tournament tickets. the exact criteria is tbc and will depend on the number of applications made and number of tickets available.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 11:56:00 GMT
Getting an updated credit card is not as easy as I thought it would be. Mine expires in June 2016 and the company (not a bank) will not give me a later expiry date. Even if I say I've lost it they will still issue a new one with June 2016. Can a family member let you use theirs and you pay them back?
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Post by matty on Dec 11, 2015 12:00:06 GMT
Getting an updated credit card is not as easy as I thought it would be. Mine expires in June 2016 and the company (not a bank) will not give me a later expiry date. Even if I say I've lost it they will still issue a new one with June 2016. Can a family member let you use theirs and you pay them back? Yeah it won't be a problem, as we have a while to apply for tickets I will just apply for another credit card in the meantime! I just wanted to make it known that something that looks pretty easy in theory is not in practice - best to get organised now. Thanks for all your hard work with all our questions too corky.
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Post by corky on Dec 11, 2015 12:13:22 GMT
No problem but everyone should keep an eye on the UEFA ticket portal web site and our own FAW web site for updates...if you really are unsure you should contact the FAW ticket department....the information we get is a guide only in an effort to make things clearer.
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Post by pengedragon on Dec 11, 2015 12:13:40 GMT
sorry if i'm being dense here, are we going back 3 memberships? the 1876 membership started with the 2012 campaign, that right ? All members are eligible to apply during the application window of 14 Dec to 18 Jan. Once the window has closed, UEFA will send us the data of all applications and FAW will sort them into priority order using the loyalty system. We will take into account the last two memberships as well as the current one, home and away matches, tournament tickets. the exact criteria is tbc and will depend on the number of applications made and number of tickets available. cheers fella
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 11, 2015 12:21:31 GMT
Corky did you ask how tickets for the knock out stage (shall we progress through the group) are going to be given out? Will fans who get tickets through the portal have to pick them up at a hotel or similar prior to the game?
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 11, 2015 12:22:04 GMT
So if I want to ensure I sit with a friend (who has equal amount of points as me) are we better of applying for 2 on one membership or both as individuals?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 11, 2015 13:25:43 GMT
Thanks for the update Corky - you've answered a lot of questions, its a shame there are still a few things that are unclear! I'm very confused about this too and I guess its something that no-one will really know the answer to. On the basis of 'loyalty' it'll be impossible to prove anything regarding the 'second' ticket so logically each member should get one ticket first, then if there are any spares the extras should go to those that requested two? But I imagine in practice this will be hard to implement, which could mean half of the members getting two tickets, and the rest getting none. I see this as a particular problem if we get a game in a smaller venue. However, if we get a game e.g in St Etienne where our allocation is say, around 8000 it would be wrong imo that the first 4000 members get 2 tickets each meaning the next 4000 members on the "loyalty list" go without. I'd like to think that FAW ticket staff apply some common sense and then limit the first 4000 to 1 ticket each making sure that as many members get a single ticket as possible. But what if member number 1 has applied for 2 tickets? I've gathered that it's an all or nothing scenario, so if you applied for 2 you won't get 1. It'll be 2 or none.
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