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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 18, 2016 19:05:29 GMT
UEFA have started to release some info regarding the amount of applications they've received from each nation. Iceland have made 26,985 ticket applications for example which considering the size of their population is a massive number. See below the two very interesting articles from UEFA's website . As has been mentioned here already perhaps the demand for Welsh tickets isn't as high as we thought it would be. It would be really interesting if they released the figures for each nation. These sentences from the articles are quite interesting: "The five teams whose fans submitted the most applications through their dedicated ticket portal are: Poland, France, Austria, Republic of Ireland, Switzerland." "The three games in highest demand are: Germany-Poland (Saint-Denis, 16 June), Republic of Ireland-Sweden (Saint-Denis, 13 June) and Portugal-Austria (Paris, 18 June)." www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/news/newsid=2325211.html?rss=2325211+Iceland+fans+flood+to+apply+for+EURO+tickets&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterwww.uefa.com/uefaeuro/news/newsid=2324474.html?rss=2324474+Huge+demand+for+UEFA+EURO+2016+tickets+continuesOf course these are only headlines and perhaps Wales is not that far behind Poland, France, Austria, Republic of Ireland, Switzerland. I'm not really sure though and although we have 14000 gold members how many would actually travel in all honesty? I also know of many members that haven't made an application and much prefer to watch it at home. I'm sure if we had a game at Stade de France we would be looking at high numbers as well as you would be more or less guaranteed a ticket We have the 3 smallest stadia which has not helped our cause
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 18, 2016 19:42:38 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets.
Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation.
Personally I don't fancy those odds.
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Post by worsy on Jan 18, 2016 20:15:29 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets. Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation. Personally I don't fancy those odds. depends what history you have. We only sold about 6000 full tournament tickets mind
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Post by manulike on Jan 18, 2016 20:19:43 GMT
Tickets for Euro 2016 have been on sale for anyone since July 2015. 1 million tix were offered and 12 million people applied! Odds of 4 to 1 (at worst!) are far better than 12 to 1...
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 18, 2016 20:44:50 GMT
Tickets for Euro 2016 have been on sale for anyone since July 2015. 1 million tix were offered and 12 million people applied! Odds of 4 to 1 (at worst!) are far better than 12 to 1... Especially if you have been a regular then your odds are reduced again
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 18, 2016 20:46:05 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets. Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation. Personally I don't fancy those odds. I wouldn't fancy the odds if it was a free for all. Thankfully the FAW have a system in place to ensure the regulars are furnished first
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 19, 2016 0:29:50 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets. Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation. Personally I don't fancy those odds. I wouldn't fancy the odds if it was a free for all. Thankfully the FAW have a system in place to ensure the regulars are furnished first I wasn't criticising the system, I was responding to some on here who were saying that they thought demand would not be as great as we were predicting and that tickets won't to too hard to come by.
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 19, 2016 1:50:57 GMT
would be good to find out, i see alot of dissapointed fans alocations were low but think bar the england game resale portal may sort those out who are serius about getting tickets and trying hard to buy straight away ,might be alot of time wating or refreshing and hope but think we can get sorted. if not fans in france or spares from people who had not made it in fanzones .follow my team futher complicates the alocation aswell , i personally have gone for cat 4 for russia and slovakia game and cat 2 for england game, but faw say we will go down the loyalty route. what happenss if you pic wrong catergory thats sold out and someone with lower loyalty get your ticket , sy you picked cat 3 but lower down picked cat 1, someone with lower points gets it i guess .
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 19, 2016 7:33:07 GMT
I wouldn't fancy the odds if it was a free for all. Thankfully the FAW have a system in place to ensure the regulars are furnished first I wasn't criticising the system, I was responding to some on here who were saying that they thought demand would not be as great as we were predicting and that tickets won't to too hard to come by. Didn't think you were criticising the system, just looking at your comment from a different angle. Im afraid as there is a system in place the odds are not that clear cut. I also don't think each member will take 2 tickets so hopefully as many Gold members as possible are furnished rather than friends/wives etc
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 19, 2016 7:39:42 GMT
would be good to find out, i see alot of dissapointed fans alocations were low but think bar the england game resale portal may sort those out who are serius about getting tickets and trying hard to buy straight away ,might be alot of time wating or refreshing and hope but think we can get sorted. if not fans in france or spares from people who had not made it in fanzones .follow my team futher complicates the alocation aswell , i personally have gone for cat 4 for russia and slovakia game and cat 2 for england game, but faw say we will go down the loyalty route. what happenss if you pic wrong catergory thats sold out and someone with lower loyalty get your ticket , sy you picked cat 3 but lower down picked cat 1, someone with lower points gets it i guess . I guess that's the risk we all take! Personally I would not have risked Cat4 as they are very low availability (I believe Corky confirmed this). Then again if many had the same train of thought as me they may be available! I believe there will be plenty of other category general sale tickets available for Slovakia so could have 20,000 Welsh fans there. My reasoning for this is its a weekend game so in high demand for our fans (teachers, kids etc) Also, I can't see Slovakia bringing many fans and it's unlikely to be popular with the neutrals. It is also the stadium with the biggest capacity (42,000) in our group games.
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Post by terminallyrhyl on Jan 19, 2016 11:52:20 GMT
The Slovakia game is the game my Teacher friends are aiming for too.
They don't have membership so have gone down the public sale route. All four travelling in one car have applied separately for four tickets each so if they are all successful then there could well be lots of spares around in Bordeaux!
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Post by manulike on Jan 19, 2016 13:00:06 GMT
I trust you will advise your mates to come on to this site first to off-load any spare tickets and not wait until Bordeaux ;-)
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 19, 2016 16:55:46 GMT
yeah no need to wait for france to offload any spares this site will snap them up in minutes .
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 19, 2016 17:17:06 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets. Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation. Personally I don't fancy those odds. Yeah but not everybody will have applied. Some people may not be physically able to go (illness, or even death), might not have the money, jobs do not allow time off (eg teachers). Then there is a loyalty system in place. Not everybody has applied for all games with 2 tickets each like you are suggesting.
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 19, 2016 17:47:26 GMT
I fear that there might be some misplaced confidence on here in getting tickets. Unless I've seriously misjudged the numbers(apologies if I have), we have approx 6500 tickets for each game, with 2 tickets to each successful member then it means we only have to have 3250 of our 14000 members apply to sell out our allocation. Personally I don't fancy those odds. Yeah but not everybody will have applied. Some people may not be physically able to go (illness, or even death), might not have the money, jobs do not allow time off (eg teachers). Then there is a loyalty system in place. Not everybody has applied for all games with 2 tickets each like you are suggesting. That's my point, not all will have applied. However, for people to feel confident about getting tickets, we need something like 8000 gold members not to apply.Thats a lots of teachers/ill/skint/dead people.
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Post by worsy on Jan 19, 2016 17:56:09 GMT
Yeah but not everybody will have applied. Some people may not be physically able to go (illness, or even death), might not have the money, jobs do not allow time off (eg teachers). Then there is a loyalty system in place. Not everybody has applied for all games with 2 tickets each like you are suggesting. That's my point, not all will have applied. However, for people to feel confident about getting tickets, we need something like 8000 gold members not to apply.Thats a lots of teachers/ill/skint/dead people. the thing is I would guess at 5000 of that 14000 having hardly any loyalty. Dont know if others feel those numbers are the close?
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 19, 2016 18:05:30 GMT
Yeah but not everybody will have applied. Some people may not be physically able to go (illness, or even death), might not have the money, jobs do not allow time off (eg teachers). Then there is a loyalty system in place. Not everybody has applied for all games with 2 tickets each like you are suggesting. That's my point, not all will have applied. However, for people to feel confident about getting tickets, we need something like 8000 gold members not to apply.Thats a lots of teachers/ill/skint/dead people. Not really. Many children are members and couldn't apply as well. How many kids memberships are there, 2k? Not everybody will have applied for every game, I know somebody who has applied for Slovakia and the final and that is it. Categories and loyalty will filter people out too. People with loads of purchase history will have a great chance. Those with a membership and Netherlands home only on the other hand...
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Post by sleepy on Jan 19, 2016 20:20:19 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 19, 2016 20:25:52 GMT
UEFA released the figure for Iceland. Perhaps they are starting to release figures for all countries? Any guess on what ours will be? Does one FMT count as one application or 1 per game you apply for? PS Windsor Park only holds 9000 with 6500 season tickets. They have 11000 tickets for their game in Lyon so should be easy pickings. I wish we had at least one game in a higher capacity stadium
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Post by sleepy on Jan 19, 2016 20:39:14 GMT
UEFA released the figure for Iceland. Perhaps they are starting to release figures for all countries? Any guess on what ours will be? Does one FMT count as one application or 1 per game you apply for? PS Windsor Park only holds 9000 with 6500 season tickets. They have 11000 tickets for their game in Lyon so should be easy pickings. I wish we had at least one game in a higher capacity stadium For the 3 group games, if all 14000 members apply for 2 tickets, that's 84000. I think it will be around 25000 for the group games. My group of 9 (able to apply for 54) have applied for 29.
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Post by llan123 on Jan 19, 2016 21:37:25 GMT
I wish we had at least one game in a higher capacity stadium I think that would have put a load of minds at ease. At this point in time i'd be thrilled with just one game now due to the low allocation I am paranoid i'll miss out on all three.
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 19, 2016 23:05:22 GMT
lets not get hopes up i think it will be alot of people with perfect home and atleast 2 aways to get tickets simple as that any less than that cant see it, maybe a tournament ticket as had the extra 2 points !, its not about thosands not applying its about minimum loyalty points and sadly low allocation equals a high loyalty points neeeded even if low number applied they would be the low hardcore to get the tickets .
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Post by srdcymru on Jan 21, 2016 13:08:12 GMT
Wales Online today reporting that 52,000 tickets have been applied for from Welsh Fans. Im assuming this number is through the Public Portal and not just the Members Portal as this would make no sense.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Jan 21, 2016 13:11:24 GMT
Wales Online today reporting that 52,000 tickets have been applied for from Welsh Fans. Im assuming this number is through the Public Portal and not just the Members Portal as this would make no sense. I initially thought the same, but I think they've counted each game individually. Lets say there are 10k(ish?) members. Game 1 - 10k applicants, some of whom asking for 2 tickets = 17k total Game 2 - 10k applicants, some of whom asking for 2 tickets = 17k total Game 3 - 10k applicants, some of whom asking for 2 tickets = 17k total 17k x 3 = 51k So there aren't 52,000 individual applicants, they've just counted every single application for each game. Hope that makes sense!
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Post by srdcymru on Jan 21, 2016 13:15:59 GMT
Yeah your right there...i get you now. Going to be a tough job for the FAW sorting this lot out! Fingers crossed.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 21, 2016 13:18:54 GMT
Ireland made 275,000 applications. That's insane.
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Post by helipad138 on Jan 21, 2016 13:21:56 GMT
I think the headline is a bit misleading. Reading the article, it sounds like the 52000 figure covers all 7 potential matches, not just the 3 group games.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 21, 2016 13:38:14 GMT
I think the headline is a bit misleading. Reading the article, it sounds like the 52000 figure covers all 7 potential matches, not just the 3 group games. "But the Football Association of Wales told Wales Online on Thursday that gold members had applied for a total of 52,160 tickets for those three games"
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Post by llan123 on Jan 21, 2016 13:38:29 GMT
I think the headline is a bit misleading. Reading the article, it sounds like the 52000 figure covers all 7 potential matches, not just the 3 group games. No I think it's just the group games, it says 52k for 17k tickets. It's not that high when you consider that a lot of people will have applied for 6 tickets altogether, I thought it would be higher than that.
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Post by worsy on Jan 21, 2016 13:51:25 GMT
Yeah your right there...i get you now. Going to be a tough job for the FAW sorting this lot out! Fingers crossed. Personally don't think its to difficult. They must have some idea on points scheme. So that put that in order and work down from the top as soon as they run out of tickets filter out each category.
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