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Post by cymro on Jan 21, 2016 13:52:45 GMT
I'm fairly certain a lot of people who aren't all that serious about going may have just applied for a few Cat 4 tickets just for the sake of it to see what happens. Wouldn't look too much in to these figures really! In fact it's not that high of a figure when put in to context.
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Post by worsy on Jan 21, 2016 14:06:29 GMT
I'm fairly certain a lot of people who aren't all that serious about going may have just applied for a few Cat 4 tickets just for the sake of it to see what happens. Wouldn't look too much in to these figures really! In fact it's not that high of a figure when put in to context. Spot on I know of at least a few people who have no chance of getting tickets but have applied cat 3/4 just to see if they are lucky. id expect 10,000 have applied and I reckon only 6000 would of had a season ticket or any sort of away record for last campaign at most. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 14:09:56 GMT
It's about the same as NI and they have a smaller population than us.
Rep of Ire have 275,000 applications!
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 14:12:05 GMT
To put the figure in some context if each gold member (14,000) applied for 2 tickets each for the tournament (potentially 7 games) that would be 196,000 applications
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Post by srdcymru on Jan 21, 2016 14:17:35 GMT
Yeah your right there...i get you now. Going to be a tough job for the FAW sorting this lot out! Fingers crossed. Personally don't think its to difficult. They must have some idea on points scheme. So that put that in order and work down from the top as soon as they run out of tickets filter out each category. Yeah suppose your right actually. Depends what loyalty scheme they use because there was a few different ones implemented during the campaign for away tickets. |
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Post by worsy on Jan 21, 2016 14:24:04 GMT
Personally don't think its to difficult. They must have some idea on points scheme. So that put that in order and work down from the top as soon as they run out of tickets filter out each category. Yeah suppose your right actually. Depends what loyalty scheme they use because there was a few different ones implemented during the campaign for away tickets. Have to be careful as there are plenty of fans that don't go to home games but only go to away games. Personally thought the way they sorted Bosnia away out was fine. Essentially its an away game. The only thing I think is poor is that England can only apply for 1 ticket yet wales fans can apply for 2. Thus there will be tickets crossing palms for lots of money out there. |
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Post by joio on Jan 21, 2016 14:48:33 GMT
It's about the same as NI and they have a smaller population than us. Rep of Ire have 275,000 applications! Perhaps somebody else knows better but from what I've read on their forum the Irish could buy 4 tickets each and they opened it up to everybody. However the FAI will still sort it all out and they believe that only the FAI account holders will actually get tickets in the end. Can you imagine what our application numbers would have been if it was open to everybody and could get 4 each? What our figures have shown is that if every gold member would have only been allowed to apply for one ticket each we'd have sold our allocation anyway and more members would have had an opportunity to get the tickets. |
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Post by llan123 on Jan 21, 2016 15:26:54 GMT
One ticket one member was the sensible thing to do, I wonder if people will now miss out to people who have less points than them because they applied for two tickets? I understand it was all or nothing.
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Post by joio on Jan 21, 2016 15:35:29 GMT
One ticket one member was the sensible thing to do, I wonder if people will now miss out to people who have less points than them because they applied for two tickets? I understand it was all or nothing. I would imagine that this will definitely happen quite a bit. I know three boys who attend every home game and go away together quite often as well. All three have applied for two each. When I asked them who was going with them they named two guys who've only ever been to a couple of home games and the other one is a rugby boy who hasn't got a clue. There's nothing we can do about that though. |
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Post by worsy on Jan 21, 2016 15:44:59 GMT
One ticket one member was the sensible thing to do, I wonder if people will now miss out to people who have less points than them because they applied for two tickets? I understand it was all or nothing. I would imagine that this will definitely happen quite a bit. I know three boys who attend every home game and go away together quite often as well. All three have applied for two each. When I asked them who was going with them they named two guys who've only ever been to a couple of home games and the other one is a rugby boy who hasn't got a clue. There's nothing we can do about that though. And this is where the FAW should hang their heads. I refused to apply for 2 out of my group I know 2 lads did I go with and they questioned why I didn't apply for 2. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 16:02:22 GMT
One ticket one member was the sensible thing to do, I wonder if people will now miss out to people who have less points than them because they applied for two tickets? I understand it was all or nothing. I would imagine that this will definitely happen quite a bit. I know three boys who attend every home game and go away together quite often as well. All three have applied for two each. When I asked them who was going with them they named two guys who've only ever been to a couple of home games and the other one is a rugby boy who hasn't got a clue. There's nothing we can do about that though. Unfortunately this will happen as people will look to go with their mates who could be bandwagoners It should have been 1 per member especially after we got the smallest stadiums |
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Post by pengedragon on Jan 21, 2016 16:18:44 GMT
I think the headline is a bit misleading. Reading the article, it sounds like the 52000 figure covers all 7 potential matches, not just the 3 group games. "But the Football Association of Wales told Wales Online on Thursday that gold members had applied for a total of 52,160 tickets for those three games" Plus any other games it also says after the bit you pasted |
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Post by llan123 on Jan 21, 2016 16:30:21 GMT
I would imagine that this will definitely happen quite a bit. I know three boys who attend every home game and go away together quite often as well. All three have applied for two each. When I asked them who was going with them they named two guys who've only ever been to a couple of home games and the other one is a rugby boy who hasn't got a clue. There's nothing we can do about that though. And this is where the FAW should hang their heads. I refused to apply for 2 out of my group I know 2 lads did I go with and they questioned why I didn't apply for 2. There's that but there's also the prospect of someone who applied for two tickets but not being deemed loyal enough to have two and thus getting zero? I wonder if the FAW are looking at reducing it to one per member now after seeing the high demand. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 16:33:13 GMT
And this is where the FAW should hang their heads. I refused to apply for 2 out of my group I know 2 lads did I go with and they questioned why I didn't apply for 2. There's that but there's also the prospect of someone who applied for two tickets but not being deemed loyal enough to have two and thus getting zero? I wonder if the FAW are looking at reducing it to one per member now after seeing the high demand. But then they would be moving the goalposts after the event and would be heavily criticised for it? |
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Post by llan123 on Jan 21, 2016 16:38:38 GMT
There's that but there's also the prospect of someone who applied for two tickets but not being deemed loyal enough to have two and thus getting zero? I wonder if the FAW are looking at reducing it to one per member now after seeing the high demand. But then they would be moving the goalposts after the event and would be heavily criticised for it? I'm not advocating they do that but I was wondering if they may do so, it's a bit of headache they've caused themselves. The second tickets are going to find themselves in the hands of all sorts of people, wouldn't surprise me if it's some people first Wales games! |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 16:49:27 GMT
But then they would be moving the goalposts after the event and would be heavily criticised for it? I'm not advocating they do that but I was wondering if they may do so, it's a bit of headache they've caused themselves. The second tickets are going to find themselves in the hands of all sorts of people, wouldn't surprise me if it's some people first Wales games! Wouldn't surprise me either but they have set out their stall now and need to stick to it. Remember a gold member might have purchased a pair for them and a fellow gold member to ensure they sit next to each other (no guarantee with UEFA group ID) with the second gold member not applying? Therefore both eligible but only 1 applying for a pair |
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Post by sleepy on Jan 21, 2016 17:03:23 GMT
I actually don't think it's that many applications (assuming the 52k is correct for all the games, not just the group games). I'd guess 35k of the 52k are for the 3 group games, of which we know there are about 18k tickets available.
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 17:22:54 GMT
I would imagine that this will definitely happen quite a bit. I know three boys who attend every home game and go away together quite often as well. All three have applied for two each. When I asked them who was going with them they named two guys who've only ever been to a couple of home games and the other one is a rugby boy who hasn't got a clue. There's nothing we can do about that though. And this is where the FAW should hang their heads. I refused to apply for 2 out of my group I know 2 lads did I go with and they questioned why I didn't apply for 2. Right on brother! Unfortunately, we mainly don't give a flying fuck for whether regular fans get tickets or not if you can get your mates tickets to have a party thats what will happen. For those of us who lose out its a bitter pill and may impact my view of future 'loyality'. I think the very least i would expect to see is a transparent process/priority ranking, the amount of versions on here of the scoring is daft. |
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 21, 2016 18:24:40 GMT
hopefully people dont give to other fans with no history of going to games i wnt be , plus good effort by us to apply for that many , many are bandwagoners, imagine if anyone could all appply we would be near the top , ireland anyone in the country could, lots of people i work with suddenly was like i need a code wtf joke faw , never been a game, same people i told to go belgium game and spend a tenner on membership or go cyprus if you want a chance . point is most had no critera to apply, england for example have 14,000 travel mmebrs all will almost get russia ticket they charge 75 pounds travel club just to apply, some with no games will get the russia game but now badwagoners have almost paid 75 pounds to miss out for, as faw still selling memberships ha . 1 per membership was the only way then parents enter kids details and guarantee they get seats next to each other. i dont mind missing out if the tickets go to most loyal fans, and yes loyalty comes a t a money pirce lack of family time a cost if you want tickets invest time and money into wales going to the games, put in the hard yards .
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 21, 2016 19:47:10 GMT
"But the Football Association of Wales told Wales Online on Thursday that gold members had applied for a total of 52,160 tickets for those three games" Plus any other games it also says after the bit you pasted Yeah, it says that. 52160 tickets have been applied for for the group stages but there's no confirmation of how many for the other stages unless I've missed something. |
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Post by aled on Jan 21, 2016 19:51:50 GMT
I've applied for two, so's my brother. If one of us is successful the other gets the spare. If we're both successful I'll get rid of my spare here face value. Been following Wales for years before they came up with this membership malarkey. Watched them throughout the shit years. Decided I must have been jinxed so stopped going for the latest campaign. It worked! We're only in France because of me! They won bloody everything as soon as I stopped going! I should get a ticket no questions asked. Will probably lose out to some new kid on the block who only started following them this campaign! But hey, good luck to all. Que sera, sera. See you in the fanzones!
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 20:03:50 GMT
I've applied for two, so's my brother. If one of us is successful the other gets the spare. If we're both successful I'll get rid of my spare here face value. Been following Wales for years before they came up with this membership malarkey. Watched them throughout the shit years. Decided I must have been jinxed so stopped going for the latest campaign. It worked! We're only in France because of me! They won bloody everything as soon as I stopped going! I should get a ticket no questions asked. Will probably lose out to some new kid on the block who only started following them this campaign! But hey, good luck to all. Que sera, sera. See you in the fanzones! Thats the spirit butt?  |
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 20:05:40 GMT
hopefully people dont give to other fans with no history of going to games i wnt be , plus good effort by us to apply for that many , many are bandwagoners, imagine if anyone could all appply we would be near the top , ireland anyone in the country could, lots of people i work with suddenly was like i need a code wtf joke faw , never been a game, same people i told to go belgium game and spend a tenner on membership or go cyprus if you want a chance . point is most had no critera to apply, england for example have 14,000 travel mmebrs all will almost get russia ticket they charge 75 pounds travel club just to apply, some with no games will get the russia game but now badwagoners have almost paid 75 pounds to miss out for, as faw still selling memberships ha . 1 per membership was the only way then parents enter kids details and guarantee they get seats next to each other. i dont mind missing out if the tickets go to most loyal fans, and yes loyalty comes a t a money pirce lack of family time a cost if you want tickets invest time and money into wales going to the games, put in the hard yards . Put in the hard yards????you watching too many cheap american dramas butt. |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 21, 2016 20:53:15 GMT
Another thing to consider is that just because someone isn't a gold member it doesn't that they didn't go to every game.
For example, I am a gold member and I got four tournament tickets for me and my mates.Only two of us are gold members, the other two aren't.
If us two gold members managed to get two tickets each, our other tickets would go to the two non gold members.
This won't be the same in every case but just proves that every '+1' won't necessarily be a glory hunting bandwagon jumper
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 21, 2016 20:54:33 GMT
I've applied for two, so's my brother. If one of us is successful the other gets the spare. If we're both successful I'll get rid of my spare here face value. Been following Wales for years before they came up with this membership malarkey. Watched them throughout the shit years. Decided I must have been jinxed so stopped going for the latest campaign. It worked! We're only in France because of me! They won bloody everything as soon as I stopped going! I should get a ticket no questions asked. Will probably lose out to some new kid on the block who only started following them this campaign! But hey, good luck to all. Que sera, sera. See you in the fanzones! Jesus! If you think you are jinxed don't come to France for gods sake |
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Post by aled on Jan 21, 2016 21:17:32 GMT
I've applied for two, so's my brother. If one of us is successful the other gets the spare. If we're both successful I'll get rid of my spare here face value. Been following Wales for years before they came up with this membership malarkey. Watched them throughout the shit years. Decided I must have been jinxed so stopped going for the latest campaign. It worked! We're only in France because of me! They won bloody everything as soon as I stopped going! I should get a ticket no questions asked. Will probably lose out to some new kid on the block who only started following them this campaign! But hey, good luck to all. Que sera, sera. See you in the fanzones! Jesus! If you think you are jinxed don't come to France for gods sake Ha! Not missing this party la. Don't worry though, I've read a few voodoo books and I just need to shag a chicken and burn some of my pubes to get rid of the jinx. Going to ASDA tomorrow to get scissors and the chicken. Oven ready should be ok. |
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Post by Jamie-Bins on Jan 21, 2016 21:26:26 GMT
stopped going because you must have been jinxed. haha heard it all now.
think people need to get real on here, my dad didn't miss a game home or away from 1978 to 1989 when I was born, hes been to probably a handful of games since 89. He fully accepts he cant get tickets for France and is just going to go out and enjoy the atmosphere.
FAW have done nothing wrong by putting the criteria of having a £10 membership in place, and then they will base it on loyalty. There is literally nothing else they could have done other than to take peoples word's for it.
As for the +1 ticket, thats a regulation UEFA have put in and is out of the FAW's hands.
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Post by aled on Jan 21, 2016 21:41:42 GMT
stopped going because you must have been jinxed. haha heard it all now. think people need to get real on here, my dad didn't miss a game home or away from 1978 to 1989 when I was born, hes been to probably a handful of games since 89. He fully accepts he cant get tickets for France and is just going to go out and enjoy the atmosphere. FAW have done nothing wrong by putting the criteria of having a £10 membership in place, and then they will base it on loyalty. There is literally nothing else they could have done other than to take peoples word's for it. As for the +1 ticket, thats a regulation UEFA have put in and is out of the FAW's hands. So it's YOUR fault your old man probably won't get a ticket?? He must really hate you at the moment! ? |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 21:46:28 GMT
stopped going because you must have been jinxed. haha heard it all now. think people need to get real on here, my dad didn't miss a game home or away from 1978 to 1989 when I was born, hes been to probably a handful of games since 89. He fully accepts he cant get tickets for France and is just going to go out and enjoy the atmosphere. FAW have done nothing wrong by putting the criteria of having a £10 membership in place, and then they will base it on loyalty. There is literally nothing else they could have done other than to take peoples word's for it. As for the +1 ticket, thats a regulation UEFA have put in and is out of the FAW's hands. A sensible post regards ticketing |
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Post by rhys on Jan 21, 2016 21:49:44 GMT
Haven't missed a home game in the last 6 years but always purchased tickets on gate (done 2 aways and have two paid memberships over the last three campaigns albeit over two different membership numbers).
This has more or less confirmed what I already knew. Oh well, what pub we watching game in lads?
/sobstory
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