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Post by foxmulder on Dec 8, 2020 22:37:03 GMT
I'm not sure where to begin with this. You really need to elaborate on your thoughts here. Have you noticed how many female and black presenters are suddenly appearing on every tv programme? Now as good as these people are do you also wonder if there are other better qualified? It just feels like a lot are there just to tick the PC box. that’s just my opinion ( and we’re all allowed one) Remember this woman has a very chequered past employment history. Well sir, if you took the time to read my post above, you'd read my despair of the FAW employing this woman. There are 15.61 million women between 16 and retirement age in the UK. If they had to go for a women with this gender-biased rule for us PC-crowd, then why the Steve Morison did they choose her?!?! Regarding your strange and quite frankly, unrelated-to-the-discussion comments above, why is it that you have a problem with female and people of colour presenters on TV? Have you ever noticed when watching a show from the 90s that the vast majority of the cast is white, with the odd black guy now again (hence the phrase, "token black guy")? Why is it that a show called Friends, set in the melting pot of the US, had a 100% white cast? Aside from Lenny Henry, why were the vast majority of presenters white males? The sad fact is that women and people of colour simply weren't employed for who they were. There are massive communities that are clearly not represented on TV. People need to feel represented, otherwise they feel alien. And you know what happens from there. I do agree with the sentiment that the best person should be hired for the job, regardless of gender and race. But the evidence suggests that clearly hasn't happened as only white men appear to have dominated almost every industry there is. The tide is turning because of past actions and this will hopefully balance out in the near future. And so flipping what if someone on TV is black or a women. Seriously chill out! Are you planning on presenting Sgorio or something? You still have your Aaron Ramsey-bullying, right wing, Piers Morgan dominating TV. |
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Post by insertname on Dec 9, 2020 0:00:02 GMT
It’s an interesting clash of priorities- Giggs put out of pasture, I can get that for their image, but then they hire this “specimen” so they aren’t afraid of courting controversy after all.
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 9, 2020 8:35:43 GMT
Have you noticed how many female and black presenters are suddenly appearing on every tv programme? Now as good as these people are do you also wonder if there are other better qualified? It just feels like a lot are there just to tick the PC box. that’s just my opinion ( and we’re all allowed one) Remember this woman has a very chequered past employment history. Well sir, if you took the time to read my post above, you'd read my despair of the FAW employing this woman. There are 15.61 million women between 16 and retirement age in the UK. If they had to go for a women with this gender-biased rule for us PC-crowd, then why the Steve Morison did they choose her?!?! Regarding your strange and quite frankly, unrelated-to-the-discussion comments above, why is it that you have a problem with female and people of colour presenters on TV? Have you ever noticed when watching a show from the 90s that the vast majority of the cast is white, with the odd black guy now again (hence the phrase, "token black guy")? Why is it that a show called Friends, set in the melting pot of the US, had a 100% white cast? Aside from Lenny Henry, why were the vast majority of presenters white males? The sad fact is that women and people of colour simply weren't employed for who they were. There are massive communities that are clearly not represented on TV. People need to feel represented, otherwise they feel alien. And you know what happens from there. I do agree with the sentiment that the best person should be hired for the job, regardless of gender and race. But the evidence suggests that clearly hasn't happened as only white men appear to have dominated almost every industry there is. The tide is turning because of past actions and this will hopefully balance out in the near future. And so flipping what if someone on TV is black or a women. Seriously chill out! Are you planning on presenting Sgorio or something? You still have your Aaron Ramsey-bullying, right wing, Piers Morgan dominating TV. Actually we’re both right on this subject. The 80/90s were too stereotypical obviously hence why things needed to change. My thoughts are that they have gone slightly too far the other way. We also agree it should be the best person for the job. Let’s hope this woman is the best otherwise someone will end up with egg on their face. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Dec 9, 2020 9:59:14 GMT
If true it's a disgrace. Because of the Post Office's negligence/incompetence or possible criminal cover up innocent people ended up in prison. This sorry state of affairs transpired under the governance of the woman mentioned.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Feb 23, 2021 8:36:03 GMT
Gone apparently.
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Post by njdragon on Feb 23, 2021 9:08:09 GMT
that wouldn't be good, to be fair he's overseen all of these developments in welsh football. He deserves a lot of credit!
done a great job
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 23, 2021 9:52:39 GMT
Looks like just one guy has tweeted this? No confirmation from any news outlet
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Post by njdragon on Feb 23, 2021 9:56:50 GMT
lets hope so then, that's all we need the successful model suddenly imploding
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Post by daearegwr on Feb 23, 2021 13:26:55 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 23, 2021 13:31:30 GMT
A vote of no confidence seems strange and random. I hope they know what they're doing.
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Post by foxmulder on Feb 23, 2021 13:47:16 GMT
Probably not... the council is the suits right? The old men in their blazers that meet up for lunch at the Miskin Manor?
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 23, 2021 14:11:53 GMT
We really don’t need this on top of the Giggs scandal in what is probably the biggest year for Welsh football. We’ve got a full WC qualifying campaign and a tournament to play ffs.
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Post by iot on Feb 23, 2021 14:20:26 GMT
Probably not... the council is the suits right? The old men in their blazers that meet up for lunch at the Miskin Manor? That was my thinking too. It's really unforgivable if a bunch of old of men have messed us up and piled on more controversy/instability because of some petty grievance no doubt! |
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Post by insertname on Feb 23, 2021 14:48:29 GMT
We recently hired that woman who allegedly ripped a load of people off right? Maybe that has rubbed people up the wrong way and he is being held responsible? It’s certainly not a good look. Maybe he’s touted himself about for other jobs and made his own position untenable? Given that these old differs have worked with him for so many years I’m inclined to trust their judgement on this one until more comes out.
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Post by gwernybwch on Feb 23, 2021 15:05:41 GMT
We recently hired that woman who allegedly ripped a load of people off right? Maybe that has rubbed people up the wrong way and he is being held responsible? It’s certainly not a good look. Maybe he’s touted himself about for other jobs and made his own position untenable? I doubt that the blazers give a monkeys about her previous indiscretions. More likely regarding grumblings coming from grassroots during CV-19 or that Ford pointing out that the Blazers golden boy R. Giggs Esq has become a huge financial liability. Given that these old differs have worked with him for so many years I’m inclined to trust their judgement on this one until more comes out. Given how these old duffers ran the association before they appointed him, I'm not inclined to trust their judgement on any matter. |
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Post by njdragon on Feb 23, 2021 15:17:17 GMT
placed on gardening leave!
be surprised if he came back, imagine the offers he would have after what he's done for us
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 23, 2021 18:49:28 GMT
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 23, 2021 22:00:59 GMT
placed on gardening leave! be surprised if he came back, imagine the offers he would have after what he's done for us Wrexham are after a CEO. We'll probably pay more too. |
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Post by adecolley on Feb 23, 2021 23:06:49 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 23, 2021 23:47:03 GMT
Getting a lot of grief on local league pages for ruining Welsh domestic football. Seems like it’s because we’re taking a more professional approach to the pyramid now. I don’t know too much about what he’s done but seems he did a good job.
Overall we’ve lost him, Osian Roberts from the Trust, Ludlow, Giggs being investigated, is Welsh football in meltdown behind the scenes?
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 24, 2021 7:39:40 GMT
Does any one know what the issues are in the domestic game? There must be people that use this forum involved in local leagues.
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Post by gwernybwch on Feb 24, 2021 8:57:29 GMT
I was going to ask something similar.
I'm not really involved at a local level or have an interest in WPL, but there was a lot of moans and grions regarding (re)starting the WPL and spectators present and there is always moans about funding about grass roots levels (and this seems to have increased since Euro 2016). This often gets very parochial.
I suspect that it all boils down to the structure of the organisation. The councillors are supposed to be the elected strategic decision makers and the employees (of which includes Ford) are responsible for the day-to-day running of the organisation. Often it all works well, the managers make operational decisions and things get done. But when decisions are made which Councillors think that they should have been involved in or knew about things start to get messy.
Councillors: "I'm hearing a lot of talk about some women you have given a job to / I'm hearing that the Llan FC aren't going to get new toilets. Why wasn't I informed"
Ford: [checks the FAW constitution] Staff appointments are devolved / Budget decisions less that £10k are devolved. I wasn't required to involve you".
And so it goes on. Until it gets to the point that the Councillors have lost 'trust and confidence' in their man.
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Post by adecolley on Feb 24, 2021 9:58:01 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 24, 2021 10:44:12 GMT
I both play and coach in the local leagues. Basically they’ve made it more professional, I’ll break some of it down into sections.
COMET. Everyone is registered with an electronic database and given an electronic facecard, under the old system you just had to write down a registered player on the team sheet and tell anyone who showed up that was their name (we did abuse that system). The potential of it is massive with real time goal updates and instant results and player/team stats but it required extra work from clubs.
Domestic restructuring. A lot of clubs were against this, it restricted those clubs who just have a set of goals in a field to the bottom league. The criteria are stricter each league you go up. Things such as changing rooms, dugouts, barriers around the pitch, ability to served hot food and drinks, stands are required to advance through the leagues. Strangely enough most clubs who couldn’t get the work done did, it forced clubs to improve themselves. It desperately needed doing.
COVID 19. It’s been difficult for everyone, they have said along the lines of fees won’t be refunded this year. Reasons include when they were training and friendlies they had insurance from there registration and were eligible for a JD Sports voucher lottery. Some fees will be discounted next year but obviously this was really damaging to their reputation.
Anyone else have more to add?
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Post by paj on Feb 24, 2021 11:18:39 GMT
I both play and coach in the local leagues. Basically they’ve made it more professional, I’ll break some of it down into sections. COMET. Everyone is registered with an electronic database and given an electronic facecard, under the old system you just had to write down a registered player on the team sheet and tell anyone who showed up that was their name (we did abuse that system). The potential of it is massive with real time goal updates and instant results and player/team stats but it required extra work from clubs. Domestic restructuring. A lot of clubs were against this, it restricted those clubs who just have a set of goals in a field to the bottom league. The criteria are stricter each league you go up. Things such as changing rooms, dugouts, barriers around the pitch, ability to served hot food and drinks, stands are required to advance through the leagues. Strangely enough most clubs who couldn’t get the work done did, it forced clubs to improve themselves. It desperately needed doing. COVID 19. It’s been difficult for everyone, they have said along the lines of fees won’t be refunded this year. Reasons include when they were training and friendlies they had insurance from there registration and were eligible for a JD Sports voucher lottery. Some fees will be discounted next year but obviously this was really damaging to their reputation. Anyone else have more to add? An excellent summary. He has overseen great success and modernised the FAW taking power from the council. Much needed. The domestic restructure and creation of Cymru North and South and taking control under FAW much needed. Upset councillors particularly in south though as led to demise of Welsh League. This is payback and the appointment is the excuse not the reason. I worry for welsh football with him gone. |
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Feb 25, 2021 20:07:00 GMT
Agreed that this is all a real cause for worry. Surprised that there's not been much more discussion on here over the past 24 hours about this bombshell news.
It can't be good for us, in this very important year - whatever the rights and wrongs of either gents cases - to find ourselves in this situation of massive instability (with both RG and JF, national team manager and chief exec respectively, on garden leave with our first big match, Belgium away, now only a matter of weeks down the road). If the FAW councillors had an axe to grind against JF, couldn't they have at least awaited until after the Euros, later into 2021?
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Post by underwood on Feb 25, 2021 20:49:29 GMT
Agreed that this is all a real cause for worry. Surprised that there's not been much more discussion on here over the past 24 hours about this bombshell news. It can't be good for us, in this very important year - whatever the rights and wrongs of either gents cases - to find ourselves in this situation of massive instability (with both RG and JF, national team manager and chief exec respectively, on garden leave with our first big match, Belgium away, now only a matter of weeks down the road). If the FAW councillors had an axe to grind against JF, couldn't they have at least awaited until after the Euros, later into 2021? Nothing gets in the way of self-interest. If these faceless blazers are responsible for the slow demise of our standing & fortunes they will have taken us back to the 70s. |
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Post by adecolley on Feb 25, 2021 21:49:24 GMT
It's a long read but Private Eye report on PO fiasco is here as a PDF. I read it quite a while ago: www.private-eye.co.uk/special-reports/justice-lost-in-the-postVan den Bogerd was also, in a voluntary unpaid capacity on the board of the Family Housing Authority (Wales), and is listed in accounts posted on September last year. She joined in July 2018 from what I can see. Current FHA site does not name her as being on the board (please check), suggesting she has left there. Is she still employed by the FA? |
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Post by quetzal on Feb 26, 2021 22:21:38 GMT
I’m a fan of Jonathan. But 12 years is a good stint. Sometimes it’s good to get a fresh pair of eyes in. Lets see.
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 9, 2021 16:17:59 GMT
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