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Post by cymruramdcfc on May 26, 2016 14:35:18 GMT
It be all sorted come the start of euros, don't panic Fingers crossed.  |
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Post by eppingblue on May 26, 2016 16:28:00 GMT
The one good thing is that's its come to a head so quickly. It couldn't continue at this level let alone escalate further without there being absolute threat to even playing the euros.
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Post by llan123 on May 26, 2016 16:44:33 GMT
What's the public feeling towards the Unions over there? Perhaps the Government will refuse to back down and push them into striking during the tournament which would surely turn the public against the unions.
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Post by eppingblue on May 26, 2016 16:52:12 GMT
What's the public feeling towards the Unions over there? Perhaps the Government will refuse to back down and push them into striking during the tournament which would surely turn the public against the unions. . On the whole the public seem more sympathetic to the unions. Certainly more so than they are here. |
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Post by ourmanflint on May 26, 2016 20:08:02 GMT
At the minute it is only one union, and not a very big one. None the less its a union (anarchist) who use direct action rather than fannying around with marches like the tree hugging liberals. They seem to be picking up support from the Nuclear Workers also but again a smaller union. It looks spectacular but not so serious and hopefully it'll get sorted. As mentioned above its all part of the game.
Air traffic control is against the employer rather than the government this is the one i think that won't be negotiated.
There is also a general non-unionised actions happening over France and mainly in Paris, students and the like which is unlikely to disrupt plans for people. To be fair even the fucking police went on strike this month as they were pissed off with the violence against them policing strikes. They didn't get much sympathy as you'd expect and ended up getting another shoeing. I think that was in Lyon.
i think it'll be okay but i am naturally laid back. If its still like this in 2 weeks then i'll start to worry.
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Post by oscardelta on May 26, 2016 21:31:46 GMT
I can definitely say that Wizzair flight to Katowice doesn't fly over France unless its lost. |
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Post by oscardelta on May 26, 2016 21:34:59 GMT
You can't say that i haven't been banging on about Brussels / Charleroi being the place to fly from ... But we are staying down south. The flights that affect us are between Bristol & Bergerac. An article in the Independant says RYAN Air flights from many airports and lists them but doesn't mention Bristol for some reason. Consider flights to North Coast of Spain in worst case scenario as they don't fly over France but to answer the question Ryanair cancel flights on day and try and put you on next available flight so depends on how full flight is but they will be as flexible as they can be. |
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Post by oscardelta on May 26, 2016 21:38:15 GMT
It's unlikely that the government will buckle, they have already introduced the new labour laws and those neo-liberals calling themselves socialist don't really give a fuck about the people they represent. Whilst the current blockading of the refinery is classed as illegal, those petrol workers are the CGT (Anarchist union) who don't really give a hoot about legalities. A bigger problem is that CGT is the biggest union for transport workers. Also they have plenty of sympathy outside of their membership. France has seen massive civil disobedience in major cities recently especially in Paris and Nantes. They've had teachers, students, agricultural workers, environmentalist, anti-TTIP, cyclists etc all at one point or another kicking off for something or nothing. Also the "Nuit debout", a huge movement similar to those seen in Spain (M15) which was a prelude to the Occupy movement in America. Great news for those in Paris with no accommodation as you've got a ready made campsite ;-) And all of this whilst the country is currently under a state of emergency! Still i am not a harbinger of doom, as this is daily life in France, i am sure we'll all be fine! French Unions who destroy Euro's will find Public support disappearing very quickly at which point Govt could then do what they like. Dare they risk that ? |
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Post by ourmanflint on May 27, 2016 9:08:27 GMT
It's unlikely that the government will buckle, they have already introduced the new labour laws and those neo-liberals calling themselves socialist don't really give a fuck about the people they represent. Whilst the current blockading of the refinery is classed as illegal, those petrol workers are the CGT (Anarchist union) who don't really give a hoot about legalities. A bigger problem is that CGT is the biggest union for transport workers. Also they have plenty of sympathy outside of their membership. France has seen massive civil disobedience in major cities recently especially in Paris and Nantes. They've had teachers, students, agricultural workers, environmentalist, anti-TTIP, cyclists etc all at one point or another kicking off for something or nothing. Also the "Nuit debout", a huge movement similar to those seen in Spain (M15) which was a prelude to the Occupy movement in America. Great news for those in Paris with no accommodation as you've got a ready made campsite ;-) And all of this whilst the country is currently under a state of emergency! Still i am not a harbinger of doom, as this is daily life in France, i am sure we'll all be fine! French Unions who destroy Euro's will find Public support disappearing very quickly at which point Govt could then do what they like. Dare they risk that ? So far its only the CGT and they are a very small union. It looks spectacular but its actually a small amount of people. My french colleague said many people are indifferent to this disruption currently. They don't have much support as other unions have refused to strike and the closure to the euro 16 i am sure what little support they have it will wane. As mentioned the air traffic is different action and will most likely go ahead. |
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Post by manulike on May 27, 2016 9:17:20 GMT
As mentioned the air traffic is different action and will most likely go ahead. I now see that as well as the planned Air Traffic Control strike for 3,4 and 5 June - now Air France pilots have declared a strike for 1 June... |
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Post by yanto on May 27, 2016 9:44:35 GMT
As mentioned the air traffic is different action and will most likely go ahead. I now see that as well as the planned Air Traffic Control strike for 3,4 and 5 June - now Air France pilots have declared a strike for 1 June... Can we have some cheery fookin news? No? Oh well, anyone fancy sharing a tandem....... |
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Post by Albert on May 29, 2016 18:56:02 GMT
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Post by bordeauxbound on May 30, 2016 6:45:47 GMT
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Post by ourmanflint on May 30, 2016 8:17:05 GMT
Still lots of maybe and possibilities. Fingers crossed. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on May 30, 2016 8:25:19 GMT
If I was a union leader in France I would threaten to plan strikes at a period of time when the country will be making a shitload of money,not rocket science really
I'm certain it will be sorted before June 10th
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Post by manulike on May 30, 2016 9:33:58 GMT
Thanks BB, But the Festival itself is From June 23 to 26, 2016 ... So a lot of drunken Irish folk, no doubt ;-) |
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Post by bordeauxbound on May 30, 2016 11:31:41 GMT
Thanks BB, But the Festival itself is From June 23 to 26, 2016 ... So a lot of drunken Irish folk, no doubt ;-) I was referring to the 1st June opening of the Wine Theme Park. I should have some spare time to pay it a visit. It took 3 years to build it. |
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Post by eppingblue on May 31, 2016 12:50:43 GMT
I see only 8 out of the normal 23 trains Bordeaux to Paris are running tomorrow. The 12.18 the one we're catching on the 15th being one of the ones that's cut. I don't suppose there's much point doing anything about it yet as it hopefully all be sorted well before. Does anyone know what happens, do you just pitch up at the station and force yourself on to one of the trains that running - London Underground style.
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Post by Gary Williams on Jun 1, 2016 0:38:24 GMT
If you have train tickets including non refundable ones these are options obviusly if you chose to take another form of transport you will only get a refund if ticket is refundable or you can argue with them if non refundabale porbably give you vouchers to value of your ticket
Your TGV, TGV Brussels or INTERCITY train has been cancelled ?
You have two solutions:
Travel on any other train during the rail strike using your original stamped ticket. Your new journey must be made under similar conditions to your initial journey where seats are available (same journey and same class).
The fact that you are travelling with your original ticket without having exchanged it will not guarantee you a seat. If you wish to reserve a seat, you must exchange your ticket at the ticket office.
Exchange or cancel your tickets by calling us on 0330 822 0333
If you booked your ticket on our website and it is 100% refundable, cancel it directly from the My Bookings section of our website.
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 1, 2016 11:30:26 GMT
This is all turning into an arse ache. Strike situation not getting any better, only one direct and one indirect train running to Lens tomorrow that would get you there in time for kick off. Only one train back. Probably too late to make alternative arrangements / privately organised buses from Paris are long since filled. I went for the train option thinking it would be the most relaxing. No driving, no parking have a drink wherever and whenever.
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Post by daearegwr on Jun 1, 2016 12:25:26 GMT
This is all turning into an arse ache. Strike situation not getting any better, only one direct and one indirect train running to Lens tomorrow that would get you there in time for kick off. Only one train back. Probably too late to make alternative arrangements / privately organised buses from Paris are long since filled. I went for the train option thinking it would be the most relaxing. No driving, no parking have a drink wherever and whenever. Which website are you using to check what is and isn't running? Trying to come up with a plan B and thinking a hire car for the day might be one option for the people staying in Lille? Should be able to park and ride into Lens and between a few people the cost wouldn't be much |
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 1, 2016 12:55:46 GMT
This is all turning into an arse ache. Strike situation not getting any better, only one direct and one indirect train running to Lens tomorrow that would get you there in time for kick off. Only one train back. Probably too late to make alternative arrangements / privately organised buses from Paris are long since filled. I went for the train option thinking it would be the most relaxing. No driving, no parking have a drink wherever and whenever. Which website are you using to check what is and isn't running? Trying to come up with a plan B and thinking a hire car for the day might be one option for the people staying in Lille? Should be able to park and ride into Lens and between a few people the cost wouldn't be much SNCF via the European link, the British site is rubbish. I've just been checking it against today and tomorrow - the equivalent days of travel in 2 weeks. I don't suppose we're likely to know what's running until a few days before. That's half the issue, I don't want to make alternative arrangements until I know its absolutely necessary. |
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Post by gifford on Jun 1, 2016 13:07:51 GMT
The site below is quite good regarding the strikes/fuel etc. It is the French news in English. www.thelocal.fr |
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Post by BA Baracus on Jun 1, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
Looking ahead to the Russia match, how can I find out if my train from Toulouse to Carcassone on the Wednseday (22nd) after the game is affected?
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Post by ourmanflint on Jun 2, 2016 7:47:51 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jun 2, 2016 8:09:19 GMT
That's great news. Thanks for keeping us posted! So, in the meanwhile its mostly Paris tube and SNCF trains that march on... |
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Post by ourmanflint on Jun 2, 2016 8:28:04 GMT
My mate thinks its on the wane also... fingers crossed
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Post by fireboy0610 on Jun 2, 2016 9:35:52 GMT
That's great news. Thanks for keeping us posted! So, in the meanwhile its mostly Paris tube and SNCF trains that march on... I personally hope it's sorted by next Friday as we only have an hour to get from gard du nor to montparnasse |
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Post by manulike on Jun 2, 2016 11:38:57 GMT
Can someone please confirm that iDbus and OuiBus (the bus arm of SNCF) are also striking.
Also, can you please confirm that Flibco and FlixBus (being German companies) are not striking?
Thanks!
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Post by ourmanflint on Jun 2, 2016 19:34:24 GMT
Can someone please confirm that iDbus and OuiBus (the bus arm of SNCF) are also striking. Also, can you please confirm that Flibco and FlixBus (being German companies) are not striking? Thanks! I can ask my mate about the french companies but he's out till monday. |
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