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Post by manulike on May 24, 2016 11:49:29 GMT
Just in case this goes ahead and there will be drastically reduced services (expected to be 60% to 70% less trains) on Wednesdays and Thursday during their June proposed strike. Officially, unless your train ticket was heavily reduced, when clicking on your Your Bookings List on the SNCF site, you should see this message: RAIL STRIKE IN FRANCE : Is your train impacted by the strike? Cancel your ticket at no extra cost, regardless of the rate. You can also exchange your ticket to travel on another date, but if your new ticket is more expensive , contact us on 00 33 8 92 35 35 35 (calls charged at the international rate, plus any applicable operator surcharge). For up to date travel information in real time - they advise you use this link - www.sncf.com/en/timetables-updates-traffic |
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Post by foxmulder on May 24, 2016 12:55:49 GMT
Gah, this is never easy, is it?
Thanks for the heads up mate.
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Post by manulike on May 24, 2016 13:05:16 GMT
My only real bargain basement ticket which isn't covered by their money-back / exchange policy is a €20 Paris to Bordeaux on a Monday - thank the Lord for that!
As they say ... C'est la vie
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Post by eppingblue on May 24, 2016 13:58:58 GMT
It doesn't seem to recognise any of my bookings. When I do the retrieval of the booking ref the Bordeaux - Paris on the 15th isn't even giving me a reference even though I have the printed ticket. The paris -lens - paris give me the references which were as I had and again not recognised. So does that mean if those trains aren't running I''m screwed. Well in the case of the Lens journeys that's all 5 of us on the booking. When are we likely to know whether the trains are running or not? |
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Post by eppingblue on May 24, 2016 14:12:38 GMT
If I connect via the email they sent me with the numbers I do at least get the message you mentioned above as far as the to and from Lens trips are concerned. Its just the Bordeaux - Paris that seems to be missing altogether.
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Post by eppingblue on May 24, 2016 15:18:19 GMT
Crikey its not much better on the roads. 20% of fuel stations out of fuel due to a blockade of the refineries.
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Post by foxmulder on May 24, 2016 20:39:36 GMT
It doesn't seem to recognise any of my bookings. When I do the retrieval of the booking ref the Bordeaux - Paris on the 15th isn't even giving me a reference even though I have the printed ticket. The paris -lens - paris give me the references which were as I had and again not recognised. So does that mean if those trains aren't running I''m screwed. Well in the case of the Lens journeys that's all 5 of us on the booking. When are we likely to know whether the trains are running or not? I'm having the same issue mate :S |
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Post by siwrexham on May 24, 2016 20:52:06 GMT
Same here. Wouldn't panic lads, probably a glitch on their system.
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Post by manulike on May 24, 2016 23:29:39 GMT
I always used be.voyages-sncf.com/en/ (Belgian portal) and currently all bookings showing as usual. Possibly you may have made a booking on their .co.uk or .com site? Each one seems to have their own database and their own identity - so on .co.uk I see nothing! |
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Post by winnie on May 25, 2016 8:54:19 GMT
So have they put out a revised timetable for if the strikes do go ahead? This is a nightmare
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Post by bluetone on May 25, 2016 9:11:29 GMT
This could be nightmare scenario... Train strikes so chaos on the trains Fuel strikes so chaos on the roads Just glad the French Air Traffic Control don't ever go on strike  |
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Post by eppingblue on May 25, 2016 9:21:44 GMT
This could be nightmare scenario... Train strikes so chaos on the trains Fuel strikes so chaos on the roads Just glad the French Air Traffic Control don't ever go on strike
Worst still no electric to operate the bier pumps. Reading the rhetoric coming from both sides is alarming. Can see this getting a whole lot worse before it gets better.
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 9:48:24 GMT
I am looking on the bright side.
At least my KLM ticket takes me to Amsterdam first, and I hope to be there around mid-day Thursday.
So at least i don't need to swim the channel ...
Amsterdam to Bordeaux is 1,092km - surely that is walk-able in 55 hours ;-)
EDIT - it gets even better ... Schiphol airport to Bordeaux is only 1,011km ;-)
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Post by rogersblue on May 25, 2016 17:43:52 GMT
we got trains from Bordeaux to paris then to amiens on the wed 15th,  |
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 19:39:16 GMT
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Post by prestatyn4457 on May 25, 2016 19:43:51 GMT
If you go on Flightradar24.com or something similar, then add filter say Wizzair or Katowice airport, you will be able to track flights from uk to Katowice to see if they do use French airspace |
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 19:51:01 GMT
Thanks for that! Much appreciated. What a fascinating web site!
Will log on tomorrow and check the actual flight in real time ;-)
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Post by prestatyn4457 on May 25, 2016 19:58:14 GMT
Just tracked one from Doncaster, one from Luton and one from Bristol.None of them went anywhere near France.
All flew over Netherlands and Germany.
If you add in the filter then click on the bottom icon below the filter, a sort of circle, you can replay all flights into Katowice for the last few days.
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 20:16:41 GMT
That's great news. Was really looking forward to some Scandinavian sunshine ;-)
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Post by bluetone on May 25, 2016 21:06:38 GMT
I've got 3 going home and 3 coming in on the 14th FFS.
What generally happens when there is an ATC strikes. Do the flights get delayed or pushed back a day?
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 21:13:03 GMT
I've got 3 going home and 3 coming in on the 14th FFS. What generally happens when there is an ATC strikes. Do the flights get delayed or pushed back a day? You can't say that i haven't been banging on about Brussels / Charleroi being the place to fly from ... |
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Post by bluetone on May 25, 2016 21:21:06 GMT
I've got 3 going home and 3 coming in on the 14th FFS. What generally happens when there is an ATC strikes. Do the flights get delayed or pushed back a day? You can't say that i haven't been banging on about Brussels / Charleroi being the place to fly from ... But we are staying down south. The flights that affect us are between Bristol & Bergerac. An article in the Independant says RYAN Air flights from many airports and lists them but doesn't mention Bristol for some reason. |
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 21:26:50 GMT
Let's hope the three-day proposed strike 3 to 5 June will bring the French government to its knees
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Post by bluetone on May 25, 2016 21:40:35 GMT
Let's hope the three-day proposed strike 3 to 5 June will bring the French government to its knees I just checked and my lot can fly into Bergerac from Stansted with Ryan Air the day before or the day after the 14th. Only one of the 3 flying in on that day are going to the England game so it'll be ok if they come in on the Wednesday. |
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2016 21:46:34 GMT
Let's hope the three-day proposed strike 3 to 5 June will bring the French government to its knees I just checked and my lot can fly into Bergerac from Stansted with Ryan Air the day before or the day after the 14th. Only one of the 3 flying in on that day are going to the England game so it'll be ok if they come in on the Wednesday. That's as long as the trains will be running on the Wednesdays and Thursdays - of course ... Thank the Lord that FLIBCO and FLIXbus are German ... and Germans never strike ... he says ... confidently ... |
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Post by bluetone on May 25, 2016 21:51:49 GMT
I have a minibus with me and for the England game I'm driving to Bordeaux, flying to Paris and I have a private hire minibus with driver taking us to Lens and bringing us back to Paris to get a flight back to Bordeaux that night.
So no trains needed thankfully.
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Post by ourmanflint on May 25, 2016 22:03:43 GMT
It's unlikely that the government will buckle, they have already introduced the new labour laws and those neo-liberals calling themselves socialist don't really give a fuck about the people they represent.
Whilst the current blockading of the refinery is classed as illegal, those petrol workers are the CGT (Anarchist union) who don't really give a hoot about legalities.
A bigger problem is that CGT is the biggest union for transport workers. Also they have plenty of sympathy outside of their membership. France has seen massive civil disobedience in major cities recently especially in Paris and Nantes. They've had teachers, students, agricultural workers, environmentalist, anti-TTIP, cyclists etc all at one point or another kicking off for something or nothing.
Also the "Nuit debout", a huge movement similar to those seen in Spain (M15) which was a prelude to the Occupy movement in America. Great news for those in Paris with no accommodation as you've got a ready made campsite ;-)
And all of this whilst the country is currently under a state of emergency!
Still i am not a harbinger of doom, as this is daily life in France, i am sure we'll all be fine!
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Post by cymroircarn on May 26, 2016 9:49:06 GMT
It's unlikely that the government will buckle, they have already introduced the new labour laws and those neo-liberals calling themselves socialist don't really give a fuck about the people they represent. Whilst the current blockading of the refinery is classed as illegal, those petrol workers are the CGT (Anarchist union) who don't really give a hoot about legalities. A bigger problem is that CGT is the biggest union for transport workers. Also they have plenty of sympathy outside of their membership. France has seen massive civil disobedience in major cities recently especially in Paris and Nantes. They've had teachers, students, agricultural workers, environmentalist, anti-TTIP, cyclists etc all at one point or another kicking off for something or nothing. Also the "Nuit debout", a huge movement similar to those seen in Spain (M15) which was a prelude to the Occupy movement in America. Great news for those in Paris with no accommodation as you've got a ready made campsite ;-) And all of this whilst the country is currently under a state of emergency! Still i am not a harbinger of doom, as this is daily life in France, i am sure we'll all be fine! Not if you are a Welshman camping in Paris as you will need transport for the games!! |
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Post by machnomancunian on May 26, 2016 13:02:27 GMT
Exactly cymroircarn. We're based in Paris for the England game :/
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Post by damo on May 26, 2016 13:57:30 GMT
After all the meticulous planning for this trip, this is a huge pain in the arse. At the end of the day there are no doubt big social and political issues around this and we are mere people going to a football match being inconvenienced. However a lot of people have spent a lot of money on this on the basis that the French can deliver a tournament that people will enjoy, rather than one that feels like an endurance test.
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