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Post by manulike on Jul 23, 2018 17:29:08 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jul 23, 2018 17:36:52 GMT
Haven't seen this video before, very impressive: www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hGR5_9cLYWhat stands out from that is Ampadu's timing (apart from an early foul on Defoe) is immaculate, with excellent anticipation. The prospect of him playing alongside Allen is positively mouth-watering. Great vid! I remember that match well. He was continuously bossing Cahill around - great performance.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jul 23, 2018 18:14:48 GMT
He really is a fantastic prospect, watching that game you'd think he was 27 not 17!
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Post by welshiron on Jul 23, 2018 22:26:18 GMT
Very true, but I believe this kid is going to be a top player injuries permitting I also have high hopes for Woodburn, Wilson and Brooks but doubt all 3 will develop into top players Hope he has an injury free season. I can see him playing for Chelsea this season
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Post by superunknown on Jul 24, 2018 8:45:29 GMT
The future looks very bright!
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 26, 2018 11:54:27 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Jul 26, 2018 13:23:28 GMT
He might come in very handy against Ireland then 🖒😀
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Post by manulike on Jul 26, 2018 20:48:57 GMT
TOP OF THE LIST - AGAIN ;-)
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Post by manulike on Jul 28, 2018 17:53:32 GMT
Starts again tonight ;-) KO at 7pm.
EDIT Played for 64 minutes. Very decent. showing nice touches on the ball and was a fraction away from blocking the Inter goal. Also had one goal saving block a couple of minutes before being subbed. Looks good enough to get a spot in our 23 ;-)
HD streams here
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Post by iot on Jul 30, 2018 20:58:43 GMT
I was encouraged to see him starting many of Chelsea's pre-season games but their manager has come out saying he's unlikely to feature in the PL:
Sarri on Ampadu & Hudson-Odoi in his press conference:
“I don’t know if they will play this season in the Premier League. But I know that these names will be very famous in the next years.”
Fair enough really, but it probably means he won't be ready for a starting spot in the nations league games, which is a shame because he's more than good enough, but we can't be starting someone who plays week-in week-out in the u23s.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 30, 2018 21:25:32 GMT
I can’t imagine the new manager would risk youth team products straight away but Ampadu could still get a lot of game time in the Europa league and cup games. Who knows, he may even force his way into the PL team by the time the qualifiers proper start next March.
He’ll get capped at some point this autumn. Hopefully when we’re 3-0 up against ROI.
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Post by manulike on Jul 30, 2018 22:08:57 GMT
I can’t imagine the new manager would risk youth team products straight away but Ampadu could still get a lot of game time in the Europa league and cup games. Who knows, he may even force his way into the PL team by the time the qualifiers proper start next March. He’ll get capped at some point this autumn. Hopefully when we’re 3-0 up against ROI. I just hope that if we then get a penalty again when 3-0 up, Bale will do the right thing and give the ball to Gunts ;-)
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Post by georgetm1 on Jul 31, 2018 11:47:15 GMT
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Post by manulike on Aug 1, 2018 20:26:39 GMT
Ethan getting a taste for the Aviva tonight. Off the bench after 62 mins. Had another decent game and gave Ozil very little room ;-)
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Post by jonnylitts on Aug 2, 2018 11:10:27 GMT
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 2, 2018 12:46:21 GMT
I'd play him against Ireland
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 2, 2018 14:36:22 GMT
I'm hoping he'll get a couple of starts in the Nations League games v Ireland and Denmark, with that and the friendly against Spain he'll have plenty of decent experience before the 'proper' qualifiers start in 2019.
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Post by zenith on Aug 5, 2018 10:51:30 GMT
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Post by manulike on Aug 5, 2018 13:16:25 GMT
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Post by iot on Aug 7, 2018 17:05:04 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration.
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Post by zenith on Aug 7, 2018 20:52:45 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration. Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark.
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Post by manulike on Aug 7, 2018 21:00:39 GMT
Ethan had a magnificent 74 minutes against an almost full strength Lyon. In the first half he was truly amazing. Putting in at least a dozen cracking tackles and 7 or 8 goal saving blocks. I know he is 17. I know that one should remain calm and wait to see what develops... Genuinely, can not see Ryan not starting him v ROI. I thought, at first, that ROI might try to target his 'inexperience' - WHAT INEXPERIENCE ... This young man is the Real McCoy :-))
I am not alone in my praise for Ethan. Pat Nevin and Dennis Wise both chose him as their stand out player tonight ;-)
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Post by iot on Aug 7, 2018 21:04:26 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration. Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark. Even if he plays week in week out in chelsea's u23s?
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Post by manulike on Aug 7, 2018 21:07:10 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration. Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark. I also agree with zenith on this. Just saw a magnificent 74 minutes of Ethan v a very strong Lyon. He was head and shoulders their best player. Really had a superb match. He might be 17 - but he is 100% ready
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Post by zenith on Aug 7, 2018 21:41:49 GMT
Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark. Even if he plays week in week out in chelsea's u23s? I won't be surprised to see him in the Chelsea 18 most weeks. They are bound to have injuries and he is probably first choice replacement.
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Post by manulike on Aug 7, 2018 21:46:48 GMT
Even if he plays week in week out in chelsea's u23s? I won't be surprised to see him in the Chelsea 18 most weeks. They are bound to have injuries and he is probably first choice replacement. Feels like he might be the "19th man" like Woodburn was at Liverpool - training with the seniors, going to most matches, but not officially on the bench. Better, in my opinion, than being with the U23 squad
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Post by erasedcitizen on Aug 7, 2018 21:48:18 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration. Did you say the same thing about Woodburn?
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Post by iot on Aug 7, 2018 22:37:22 GMT
For me, ampadu has to play senior, competetive football fairly frequently before getting a starting spot. He doesn't deserve a start over lee evans or even ledley, who play every week in the championship, if he plays in chelsea's u23s. More to the point, how can he be expected to slot into a vital position at the base of our midfield, in a game with so much riding on it, when he's been playing at an u23 tempo and intensity the previous weeks? It's different with attacking players who don't need the same level of concentration. Did you say the same thing about Woodburn? As I said, it's different with an attacking player who can have the freedom to express themselves and they're far enough up the pitch so it usually isn't as costly if they lose the ball / make a mistake. It would be asking a lot, if ampadu is stuck in chelsea's u23s, to ask him to anchor our midfield or play at the back against the Irish or Danes. I feel like we've reached a point now where we're good enough not to rely on players who haven't fully made the step up to senior football yet. I'd prefer to be patient and wait until he gets regular minutes.
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Post by iot on Aug 7, 2018 22:40:09 GMT
Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark. I also agree with zenith on this. Just saw a magnificent 74 minutes of Ethan v a very strong Lyon. He was head and shoulders their best player. Really had a superb match. He might be 17 - but he is 100% ready
Yes, I watched the game and he was great, with the exception of the penalty he probably should have given away in the first half. However, playing a competitive international is a very different prospect to a preseason friendly. I think he's going to be an incredible player, but don't think we should chuck him in if he goes back to their u23s.
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Post by pendragon on Aug 8, 2018 9:18:02 GMT
Disagree, I think he already offers more than Lee Evans. Probably not as much as Ledley in game management but would make up for that in his passing ability and tackling in midfield. He’s a must for me to start at least one of Ireland or Denmark. I also agree with zenith on this. Just saw a magnificent 74 minutes of Ethan v a very strong Lyon. He was head and shoulders their best player. Really had a superb match. He might be 17 - but he is 100% ready
I agree. If he's good enough for Chelsea, he's good enough for us! I would even go so far as to argue he might be on par or even stronger than 1 or 2 other defensive midfielders we have at present. Given our past problems with defence and losing the ball etc, I think he should strongly feature in our next fixture!
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