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Post by Tyler75 on Oct 12, 2023 14:49:38 GMT
Amps has been fabulous for Leeds so far this season - as has Rodon- too good for the Championship and thriving playing regularly in front of big crowds with an excellent manager. DJ is also benefitting from Farke’s system and coaching putting in some excellent performances. With young Charlie Crew also at ER we are building quite the Cymru enclave.
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 12, 2023 17:34:49 GMT
Amps has been fabulous for Leeds so far this season - as has Rodon- too good for the Championship and thriving playing regularly in front of big crowds with an excellent manager. DJ is also benefitting from Farke’s system and coaching putting in some excellent performances. With young Charlie Crew also at ER we are building quite the Cymru enclave. Agents Ampadu & Rodon despatched to make sure Charlie Crew doesn't play for England?
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Post by pod on Oct 14, 2023 10:17:23 GMT
ALL CYMRU AREN'T WE!
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 15, 2023 21:42:47 GMT
It's amazing how Ethan Ampadu somehow manages to boss the midfied with inexperienced teenagers 17 year-old Archie Gray & 19 year-old Jordan James next to him.
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 15, 2023 21:52:49 GMT
He's some player, it's over for Morrell as long as Ampadu, James and Savage are around, the future isn't looking half as bad for central midfield now!
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 15, 2023 21:57:48 GMT
He's some player, it's over for Morrell as long as Ampadu, James and Savage are around, the future isn't looking half as bad for central midfield now! Morrell has done a good job and filled the gap as other players wound down their careers. These newer players are more dynamic though, and there are more coming through. It's quite possible that we may even end up with a better team than the recent golden generation.
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Post by hooky on Oct 15, 2023 22:32:00 GMT
Both James and Savage have a far better range of passing and can score goals too!
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Post by bobbyghoul on Oct 15, 2023 22:47:18 GMT
Both James and Savage have a far better range of passing and can score goals too! Calm down, Savage is a foetus and hasn't done 10% of what Ampadu has achieved.
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Post by hooky on Oct 15, 2023 22:49:25 GMT
Both James and Savage have a far better range of passing and can score goals too! Calm down, Savage is a foetus and hasn't done 10% of what Ampadu has achieved. I was not comparing them to Ampadu, I was comparing them to Morrell!
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Post by bobbyghoul on Oct 15, 2023 22:51:05 GMT
Calm down, Savage is a foetus and hasn't done 10% of what Ampadu has achieved. I was not comparing them to Ampadu, I was comparing them to Morrell! Ha, fair play! Yes, Morrell's looking like a 3rd or 4th choice DM right now.
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Post by hooky on Oct 15, 2023 23:24:05 GMT
Ethan Ampadu for Wales v Croatia: 🏴
100% pass accuracy 96 mins played 32 touches 17/17 successful passes 6 duels won 4 successful tackles 4 ball recoveries 4 clearances 3 fouls 2 interceptions 2/2 accurate long passes 2 passes into the final third 2 times fouled
Ampadu put in a huge display and excelled against a Croatian midfield trio of Modric, Kovacic and Brozovic which takes some doing. 👊
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 15, 2023 23:52:19 GMT
A quartet of Ampadu, JJ, Savage & Morrell could be a mainstay for the next 3-4 years (until Charlie Crew forces his way in). The first 3 have the quality and youth on their side, and Morrell is an experienced senior player for us now, who we can trust to do a half decent job if we need to - he's played enough big games and done a decent job to be relied on for a 6 or 7 out of 10 performance
I can guarantee that over the next 2-3 years we will need Morrell to step in and play, and we'll be glad we have him as backup at a certain point. No need to discard him just yet
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 16, 2023 10:13:49 GMT
A quartet of Ampadu, JJ, Savage & Morrell could be a mainstay for the next 3-4 years (until Charlie Crew forces his way in). The first 3 have the quality and youth on their side, and Morrell is an experienced senior player for us now, who we can trust to do a half decent job if we need to - he's played enough big games and done a decent job to be relied on for a 6 or 7 out of 10 performance I can guarantee that over the next 2-3 years we will need Morrell to step in and play, and we'll be glad we have him as backup at a certain point. No need to discard him just yet I think Crew might be fast tracked as Ampadu was. (Maybe not under Page though )
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 16, 2023 10:23:44 GMT
For me Ampadu is the leader of the pack in the centre of the park and it's just a case of who can play/fit in alongside him. Jordan James has staked a massive claim for the place next to him and those two should be automatic first choice now. After that I'd look to Savage, he looks like he has something extra about him and we need players like that, he could have one hell of a future. I'm concerned by Morrell, his last three competitive appearances for us worried me greatly and even as a come on and see the game out type I'm not as convinced anymore, when he came on to do that against Latvia in March he very nearly threw two points away with careless play. With this in mind I'm happy for Crew to come into the fold at some point in the future and get a feel for it. I don't like singling Morrell out and I've sung his praises in the past but he just seems like too much of a liability at times. As for Levitt and Smith, I've no idea what to make of either right now.
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 16, 2023 10:33:20 GMT
For me Ampadu is the leader of the pack in the centre of the park and it's just a case of who can play/fit in alongside him. Jordan James has staked a massive claim for the place next to him and those two should be automatic first choice now. After that I'd look to Savage, he looks like he has something extra about him and we need players like that, he could have one hell of a future. I'm concerned by Morrell, his last three competitive appearances for us worried me greatly and even as a come on and see the game out type I'm not as convinced anymore, when he came on to do that against Latvia in March he very nearly threw two points away with careless play. With this in mind I'm happy for Crew to come into the fold at some point in the future and get a feel for it. I don't like singling Morrell out and I've sung his praises in the past but he just seems like too much of a liability at times. As for Levitt and Smith, I've no idea what to make of either right now. Ampadu and James have an imposing presence in midfield, and they both can play too, while Ampadu is perfect in the mentoring role. I can also see Savage playing in front of James/Ampadu at some point, as he likes to play further forward.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 16, 2023 10:39:11 GMT
Smith is done, and Levitt needs to show something at club level or make an upwards move to get back in contention. I'd prefer to see us play Savage-Crew in the next friendly than either of the above or Sheehan/Morrell
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Post by iot on Oct 16, 2023 15:25:40 GMT
He's some player, it's over for Morrell as long as Ampadu, James and Savage are around, the future isn't looking half as bad for central midfield now! Morrell has done a good job and filled the gap as other players wound down their careers. These newer players are more dynamic though, and there are more coming through. It's quite possible that we may even end up with a better team than the recent golden generation. Great to have this depth now. Definitely think there's still room for Morrell to contribute. I suspect he'll be back for the next double header. JJ obviously should be ahead of him given his heroic recent performances, but the great thing is we now have some reliable subs to call on / rotational players for what will be a very demanding double header.
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Post by rico on Oct 17, 2023 12:46:41 GMT
Tempting fate I know but Ethan seems to have worked on his discipline? Feels decidedly less card-prone these days. Remember him picking up cards often in his seasons over in Italy (including that one crazy red for what an obvious clean challenge). Something has definitely changed about his game and think it's general maturity. And not sure if he's less vocal, but he's definitely less animated, used to do a lot of off-ball pointing but seems to be a lot quieter in that sense. Not that makes him any better or worse, just an observation.
Glad he's made that Leeds move, makes a lot more sense for him to be playing regularly and seems to be a key piece in that team.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 17, 2023 15:54:54 GMT
Tempting fate I know but Ethan seems to have worked on his discipline? Feels decidedly less card-prone these days. Remember him picking up cards often in his seasons over in Italy (including that one crazy red for what an obvious clean challenge). Something has definitely changed about his game and think it's general maturity. And not sure if he's less vocal, but he's definitely less animated, used to do a lot of off-ball pointing but seems to be a lot quieter in that sense. Not that makes him any better or worse, just an observation. Glad he's made that Leeds move, makes a lot more sense for him to be playing regularly and seems to be a key piece in that team. I think his disciplinary issues were massively overblown. He had a really unlucky red card in Italy then a really unlucky red card for us in the Euros. Yes he picked up a few yellows around that time too, but most players do in that position He has improved his gamesmanship and timing for sure, but it was always overplayed that it was an issue before imo
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 17, 2023 21:02:15 GMT
From what I gather Leeds fans absolutely love him and it's hard not to, he's got a wealth of experience for someone so young and one hell of strong character to have kept going despite being part of the ridiculous Chelsea youth system.
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 18, 2023 11:05:48 GMT
Tempting fate I know but Ethan seems to have worked on his discipline? Feels decidedly less card-prone these days. Remember him picking up cards often in his seasons over in Italy (including that one crazy red for what an obvious clean challenge). Something has definitely changed about his game and think it's general maturity. And not sure if he's less vocal, but he's definitely less animated, used to do a lot of off-ball pointing but seems to be a lot quieter in that sense. Not that makes him any better or worse, just an observation. Glad he's made that Leeds move, makes a lot more sense for him to be playing regularly and seems to be a key piece in that team. Could the pointing thing have been something he picked up in Italy because he never spoke any Italian?
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 18, 2023 11:20:47 GMT
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Post by morg on Oct 18, 2023 12:07:03 GMT
Incredible. We were fearful of the post Allen world a few months back and now we could have found an effective midfield hub for the next 10 years plus.
I am officially no longer worried about our midfield and will put greater emphasis on fretting about a goalkeeper and a Kieffer substitute.
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Post by welshrover on Oct 18, 2023 12:22:30 GMT
Remarkable he has only just turned 22! Seems to have been around for ever, will definitely join the 100 club.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 18, 2023 14:24:08 GMT
Remarkable he has only just turned 22! Seems to have been around for ever, will definitely join the 100 club. It's more a question of whether or not he will be a founding member of the 150 club to be honest If we go to Germany, he could be on around 60 caps by the time he turns 24
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 18, 2023 14:27:02 GMT
Incredible. We were fearful of the post Allen world a few months back and now we could have found an effective midfield hub for the next 10 years plus. I am officially no longer worried about our midfield and will put greater emphasis on fretting about a goalkeeper and a Kieffer substitute.In all seriousness these are areas we do need to address. Eventually a GK will come along, although we've been saying that for years. I do think Owen Evans will be involved one day and could be a decent option. However, Kieffer's don't grow on trees. Even Sam Vokes, a passible target man, had nowhere near the same impact as Kieffer. Most target men aren't as tall or as quick as Kieffer, and if they are they're usually not as good at sticking the ball in the net. Honestly, I think we'd have to become a less direct team when he retires, but let's just hope he has a good few years in him yet!
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Post by welshrover on Oct 18, 2023 15:24:16 GMT
Remarkable he has only just turned 22! Seems to have been around for ever, will definitely join the 100 club. It's more a question of whether or not he will be a founding member of the 150 club to be honest If we go to Germany, he could be on around 60 caps by the time he turns 24 My mistake, just turned 23 not 22, but still remarkable!
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Post by iantov on Oct 18, 2023 16:50:24 GMT
Tempting fate I know but Ethan seems to have worked on his discipline? Feels decidedly less card-prone these days. Remember him picking up cards often in his seasons over in Italy (including that one crazy red for what an obvious clean challenge). Something has definitely changed about his game and think it's general maturity. And not sure if he's less vocal, but he's definitely less animated, used to do a lot of off-ball pointing but seems to be a lot quieter in that sense. Not that makes him any better or worse, just an observation. Glad he's made that Leeds move, makes a lot more sense for him to be playing regularly and seems to be a key piece in that team. He went to Leeds because Daniel Farke pointed out the things he could improve, and explained how he would make him a better player. BTW could the pointing thing have been something he picked up in Italy because he never spoke any Italian? I'm pretty sure he had that pointing habit before he went to Italy. I noticed that Savage did it a little bit aswell during the Gibraltar game.
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Post by athenempadu on Oct 19, 2023 21:53:05 GMT
He went to Leeds because Daniel Farke pointed out the things he could improve, and explained how he would make him a better player. BTW could the pointing thing have been something he picked up in Italy because he never spoke any Italian? I'm pretty sure he had that pointing habit before he went to Italy. I noticed that Savage did it a little bit aswell during the Gibraltar game. It's not necessarily a bad thing if you are reading the game better than those around you, and some players can get a bit flustered in tight situations. I guess it's something for the manager and team to address.
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 20, 2023 8:23:16 GMT
I've never had an issue with players pointing, at times it's a necessity in defensive positions, if you are helping a team organize on the pitch then do it however you can.
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