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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 7, 2019 11:29:35 GMT
Seems a bit of a dog's dinner all round at Y Cae Ras now, plus back to the future with Keates. Was it the right decision???
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 7, 2019 15:40:40 GMT
Flynn out, Andy Davies in.
Thank fuck I didn't buy a season ticket.
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Oct 7, 2019 18:09:03 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 7, 2019 18:09:03 GMT
Dixie McNeil has said that he didn't have a lot to do with the selection process despite the board saying different.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 8, 2019 15:23:38 GMT
Dixie McNeil has said that he didn't have a lot to do with the selection process despite the board saying different. Quelle surprise. Where is this being said?
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Oct 8, 2019 15:55:04 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 8, 2019 15:55:04 GMT
Dixie McNeil has said that he didn't have a lot to do with the selection process despite the board saying different. Quelle surprise. Where is this being said? In the first press conference with Keates.
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Oct 8, 2019 18:00:34 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 8, 2019 18:00:34 GMT
Isn't that Keates the lovechild of Neil Warnock with the continuous hump the ball into the air type football for the whole match?
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 9, 2019 16:09:38 GMT
Isn't that Keates the lovechild of Neil Warnock with the continuous hump the ball into the air type football for the whole match? Endless, hopeless crosses into the box and grinding out 1-0 wins.
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Oct 9, 2019 17:06:03 GMT
Felt like two points dropped last night. A slight change in formation saw us tighten up at the back. (Still in need of a decent RB though, Jazzi BB days are numbered surely?) Created enough to win 2 games but a missed pen at 1-0 give them a lift. Work to do for Keates, nothing a couple of astute signings won’t help. I’m backing the board to back their man.
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Oct 9, 2019 21:38:07 GMT
Can the Wrexham fans explain what's going on this season? This could be disastrous for Welsh football We hired a shit manager with no real experience, previously he only lasted 2 months at Scarborough much lower down before they sacked him, and in the interim he was a footgolf coach. Quite the CV, but we were told he was the stand-out candidate; a yes-man if you like. In the meantime, we've also burnt our bridges with local youth teams & "football for hope" initiatives like the Wrexham Inclusion FC team, and withdrew Wrexham Ladies from the Women's WPL. All in all, a shambles really. How would it be disastrous for Welsh football? We've only got 1 Welsh player in our starting line-up, and he's by far the worst player on the pitch - playing without a goalkeeper might actually help us keep clean sheets. Our last call-up must have been Neil Taylor, and our last youth product to get capped was 26-year old Danny Ward. Not even the Wales youth teams use us as a source anymore. Attachments:
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 9, 2019 21:54:04 GMT
We hired a shit manager with no real experience, previously he only lasted 2 months at Scarborough much lower down before they sacked him, and in the interim he was a footgolf coach. Quite the CV, but we were told he was the stand-out candidate; a yes-man if you like. In the meantime, we've also burnt our bridges with local youth teams & "football for hope" initiatives like the Wrexham Inclusion FC team, and withdrew Wrexham Ladies from the Women's WPL. All in all, a shambles really. How would it be disastrous for Welsh football? We've only got 1 Welsh player in our starting line-up, and he's by far the worst player on the pitch - playing without a goalkeeper might actually help us keep clean sheets. Our last call-up must have been Neil Taylor, and our last youth product to get capped was 26-year old Danny Ward. Not even the Wales youth teams use us as a source anymore. Toytown. Let's revisit this if our lads start making the U21-20's on a regular basis again.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:45:58 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 15, 2019 20:45:58 GMT
We find ourselves in the relegation zone again.
I'm seriously worried.
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Post by majorraglan on Oct 15, 2019 21:33:17 GMT
They need to sort it and quickly. Terrible state of affairs to be honest.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 16, 2019 9:30:55 GMT
I'm already looking forward to playing Kiddy & Alty again next season. Southport was always a good away day too.
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Oct 16, 2019 9:42:59 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 16, 2019 9:42:59 GMT
I'm already looking forward to playing Kiddy & Alty again next season. Southport was always a good away day too. Wonder if we'd keep the ground. I doubt we could afford the lease if attendances drop to around 2000.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 16, 2019 10:10:32 GMT
I'm already looking forward to playing Kiddy & Alty again next season. Southport was always a good away day too. Wonder if we'd keep the ground. I doubt we could afford the lease if attendances drop to around 2000. Saw on RP from a rugby forum we were charging the Crusaders £3k per game, then we upped it to £7.5k + VAT and all food/drinks sales. Poor form from the board, still continuing to burn bridges.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 16, 2019 11:38:28 GMT
Terrible state of affairs. This has been coming for a while. I think play-offs last season masked the problems at the club. They need someone with good experience of running day to day club affairs as Chief Exec soonest, and try and bring in some quality in January or we'll in the brown stuff big time.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 16, 2019 18:08:51 GMT
Terrible state of affairs. This has been coming for a while. I think play-offs last season masked the problems at the club. They need someone with good experience of running day to day club affairs as Chief Exec soonest, and try and bring in some quality in January or we'll in the brown stuff big time. I don't necessarily think a chief executive is the answer, the board has gone through its fair share of issues. I think we also need to look at what kind of players we're getting in, they're all good at lower clubs until they join us and then they slack off. Kind of like a non-league Manchester United. I'd suggest promoting youth and going to PL clubs academies, like we did with Taylor, Obeng etc., players who don't want to be stuck at this fucking level so work their bollocks off to either get out of this league or earn a big transfer. Our current lot have spent their entire careers content with non-league football.
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Oct 16, 2019 21:46:20 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 16, 2019 21:46:20 GMT
Absolutely lost for ideas from the board to the players. Hoofing it for tiny strikers to compete against 6 foot defenders, even Sunday league players would say in the warm up ‘we can’t put it in the air against these!’ Yet we kept trying, for 90 minutes, even after our supposed target man went off injured. Shocking.
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Post by massivefloodlights on Oct 17, 2019 9:37:51 GMT
There’s no doubt Keates will be backed by the board to bring in 2 or 3 players to sort this mess out. The return of Hooper will be massive too. Injuries to big players for us haven’t helped.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 1, 2019 17:08:31 GMT
There’s no doubt Keates will be backed by the board to bring in 2 or 3 players to sort this mess out. The return of Hooper will be massive too. Injuries to big players for us haven’t helped. 23rd.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Dec 1, 2019 19:43:36 GMT
Desperate times, this must be the lowest since being kicked out of the football league.
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Dec 1, 2019 21:18:23 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 1, 2019 21:18:23 GMT
Sorry I'm wrong, we're bottom.
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Dec 1, 2019 21:58:07 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 1, 2019 21:58:07 GMT
Anyone know what as fans, we can do to save our club? It's got so desperate.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 2, 2019 5:29:15 GMT
Only way we’ll get out of this is to throw a lot of cash at it. Need to look at everything we do from top to bottom. Youth progression, recruitment, training, match day, communication can only be described as p*ss poor. Make everyone accountable to the Chairman and the Chairman accountable to the fans.
Stop the board stagnating, no one needs to seize control of Wrexham and keep control, elections by the fans every 2/3 years.
We keep recruiting players who’ve been around the block but this time will do wonders, they won’t. Need to look long term and build around local players with top players coming in to supplement their development. Players like Keates, Little, Creighton.
We need to create an identity that goes further than changing the stadium to my racecourse or saying we are one club. At the moment our identity seems to be we’re the Welsh football club with no Welsh players, no passion for the badge. Make us the football club of North Wales, we’re different from the rest because we’re Welsh, if it makes some English players uncomfortable they can play down the road instead. If they want to join the identity with a clear philosophy then welcome.
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 2, 2019 14:42:44 GMT
Bottom. Going down, can't say I'm looking forward to some of the dross below us.
Would rather take the cowards way out and join the WPL, playing out of Queensway in front of 500 every week.
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 2, 2019 15:13:01 GMT
Only way we’ll get out of this is to throw a lot of cash at it. Need to look at everything we do from top to bottom. Youth progression, recruitment, training, match day, communication can only be described as p*ss poor. Make everyone accountable to the Chairman and the Chairman accountable to the fans. Stop the board stagnating, no one needs to seize control of Wrexham and keep control, elections by the fans every 2/3 years. We keep recruiting players who’ve been around the block but this time will do wonders, they won’t. Need to look long term and build around local players with top players coming in to supplement their development. Players like Keates, Little, Creighton. We need to create an identity that goes further than changing the stadium to my racecourse or saying we are one club. At the moment our identity seems to be we’re the Welsh football club with no Welsh players, no passion for the badge. Make us the football club of North Wales, we’re different from the rest because we’re Welsh, if it makes some English players uncomfortable they can play down the road instead. If they want to join the identity with a clear philosophy then welcome. My only concern/fear with elections on such a regular basis is that it takes a while to build a team worth having in the time-frame you're suggesting, and that's before any of the circus popularity contest stuff that comes with elections. You'd have some joker promising to sign Mark Hughes as manager & local big names like Harry Wilson/Tom Lawrence if they get elected, and the masses on RP/Facebook fans chat would lap it up. I'd probably go for a 5 year fixed election cycle, where people put themselves forward for specific job positions on the board with targets/a manifesto they can be measured against, rather than an ambiguous spot on "the board", and serving FC board members wouldn't be able to hold positions on the WST board. I'd like us to restart our loan/youth policy again; the one which saw us sign Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Obeng etc., decent-rated players either signed or loaned from top PL clubs. Neco Williams & Chem Campbell on loan perhaps, but I fear our image and standing in the game will take a lot of repairing before that can happen again. For the time being, I'd honestly just play the youth lads, despite the financial cost. They can't be much worse compared to the first team players who simply aren't pulling their weight, and I'd imagine they'd be quite keen to play for the badge. Sell off first team players in January/June, accept that we're going down so we might aswell try and recoup any money early and begin rebuilding a fresh team.
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Dec 2, 2019 16:25:12 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 2, 2019 16:25:12 GMT
Only way we’ll get out of this is to throw a lot of cash at it. Need to look at everything we do from top to bottom. Youth progression, recruitment, training, match day, communication can only be described as p*ss poor. Make everyone accountable to the Chairman and the Chairman accountable to the fans. Stop the board stagnating, no one needs to seize control of Wrexham and keep control, elections by the fans every 2/3 years. We keep recruiting players who’ve been around the block but this time will do wonders, they won’t. Need to look long term and build around local players with top players coming in to supplement their development. Players like Keates, Little, Creighton. We need to create an identity that goes further than changing the stadium to my racecourse or saying we are one club. At the moment our identity seems to be we’re the Welsh football club with no Welsh players, no passion for the badge. Make us the football club of North Wales, we’re different from the rest because we’re Welsh, if it makes some English players uncomfortable they can play down the road instead. If they want to join the identity with a clear philosophy then welcome. My only concern/fear with elections on such a regular basis is that it takes a while to build a team worth having in the time-frame you're suggesting, and that's before any of the circus popularity contest stuff that comes with elections. You'd have some joker promising to sign Mark Hughes as manager & local big names like Harry Wilson/Tom Lawrence if they get elected, and the masses on RP/Facebook fans chat would lap it up. I'd probably go for a 5 year fixed election cycle, where people put themselves forward for specific job positions on the board with targets/a manifesto they can be measured against, rather than an ambiguous spot on "the board", and serving FC board members wouldn't be able to hold positions on the WST board. I'd like us to restart our loan/youth policy again; the one which saw us sign Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Obeng etc., decent-rated players either signed or loaned from top PL clubs. Neco Williams & Chem Campbell on loan perhaps, but I fear our image and standing in the game will take a lot of repairing before that can happen again. For the time being, I'd honestly just play the youth lads, despite the financial cost. They can't be much worse compared to the first team players who simply aren't pulling their weight, and I'd imagine they'd be quite keen to play for the badge. Sell off first team players in January/June, accept that we're going down so we might aswell try and recoup any money early and begin rebuilding a fresh team. I think our fans would be more grounded than think we could bring in Tom Lawrence etc. I thought 2/3 years because our glorious leader Spencer Harris has been in about that time so seen how little time it takes to mess things up. Definitely need to go down the youth route. I don’t think we should accept relegation though. When we were relegated from the Football League I thought it’d be a fresh start. Bring through the Williams brothers, Levi Mackin etc. and come back up with the dead wood gone, how wrong I was! If we go down we might find ourselves out of sorts in the National North.
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 2, 2019 16:37:10 GMT
My only concern/fear with elections on such a regular basis is that it takes a while to build a team worth having in the time-frame you're suggesting, and that's before any of the circus popularity contest stuff that comes with elections. You'd have some joker promising to sign Mark Hughes as manager & local big names like Harry Wilson/Tom Lawrence if they get elected, and the masses on RP/Facebook fans chat would lap it up. I'd probably go for a 5 year fixed election cycle, where people put themselves forward for specific job positions on the board with targets/a manifesto they can be measured against, rather than an ambiguous spot on "the board", and serving FC board members wouldn't be able to hold positions on the WST board. I'd like us to restart our loan/youth policy again; the one which saw us sign Joe Allen, Neil Taylor, Obeng etc., decent-rated players either signed or loaned from top PL clubs. Neco Williams & Chem Campbell on loan perhaps, but I fear our image and standing in the game will take a lot of repairing before that can happen again. For the time being, I'd honestly just play the youth lads, despite the financial cost. They can't be much worse compared to the first team players who simply aren't pulling their weight, and I'd imagine they'd be quite keen to play for the badge. Sell off first team players in January/June, accept that we're going down so we might aswell try and recoup any money early and begin rebuilding a fresh team. I think our fans would be more grounded than think we could bring in Tom Lawrence etc. I thought 2/3 years because our glorious leader Spencer Harris has been in about that time so seen how little time it takes to mess things up. Definitely need to go down the youth route. I don’t think we should accept relegation though. When we were relegated from the Football League I thought it’d be a fresh start. Bring through the Williams brothers, Levi Mackin etc. and come back up with the dead wood gone, how wrong I was! If we go down we might find ourselves out of sorts in the National North. True enough it doesn't take long to make a mess of something, but I think it could be safeguarded much better if we've got people standing for and getting elected into proper roles, rather than "the board", where all the blame falls on the most prominent member because nobody is sure who's actually in charge of what.
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Dec 3, 2019 7:19:42 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 3, 2019 7:19:42 GMT
I think our fans would be more grounded than think we could bring in Tom Lawrence etc. I thought 2/3 years because our glorious leader Spencer Harris has been in about that time so seen how little time it takes to mess things up. Definitely need to go down the youth route. I don’t think we should accept relegation though. When we were relegated from the Football League I thought it’d be a fresh start. Bring through the Williams brothers, Levi Mackin etc. and come back up with the dead wood gone, how wrong I was! If we go down we might find ourselves out of sorts in the National North. True enough it doesn't take long to make a mess of something, but I think it could be safeguarded much better if we've got people standing for and getting elected into proper roles, rather than "the board", where all the blame falls on the most prominent member because nobody is sure who's actually in charge of what. That would be a good way of doing it. It would be interesting to see what would happen in elections. If I’m given a role I’m automatically in my comfort zone, if I have to work at it I’ll probably keep that hard work going in that role. I think the best thing we could do as a club now would be to form a temporary shadow board who would be ready to take on the club at short notice. As bad as they’re doing they would leave us in a huge mess if they all just down their tools.
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Post by cadno on Dec 3, 2019 13:34:43 GMT
I've just looked at the table. Wow, no wonder it's so hard to compete.
Yeovil, Torquay, Notts County, Stockport, Hartlepool, Barnet, Chesterfield, Wrexham.
I really hope you turn things around, you don't seem to be getting hammered 4-0 etc, so maybe a hanfull of quality signings/loans in January will sort things out on the pitch.
Liam Cullen from Swans u23s worth trying to get him involved?
Chris Dawson is starring for Scarborough Athletic this season, had a lot of MOTM awards, not sure if it would be possible to get him in.... He was highly rated at Leeds Utd but bad knee injuries got in the way. Very creative attacking midfielder, could bring a bit of a spark/creativity.
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