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Post by phillywelsh83 on Apr 9, 2018 15:49:29 GMT
Is Neil Warnock staying at cardiff city if they get promoted? He really struggled at Palace. They got to get up first.
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Post by bracklablue72 on Apr 9, 2018 16:58:32 GMT
Fulham seem unstoppable tbh ...
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Post by ae15 on Apr 9, 2018 17:02:24 GMT
I don't have a lot of confidence anymore. We've got to win 4 games out of the last 6, because I think Fulham will get 91 points.
Forest and Reading at home we really should win, so it's about getting two of Villa, Derby, Norwich and Hull away. Or even 1 win and 3 draws.
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 9, 2018 17:31:57 GMT
Is Neil Warnock staying at cardiff city if they get promoted? He really struggled at Palace. Very silly signing up Warnock for next season. He's had so many attempts at the PL and it's never worked out for him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 17:46:08 GMT
He only had pennies to spend at Sheffield United and very nearly did it. Had West Ham been deducted points then they’d have stayed up.
I think he did well at QPR too. They weren’t in the bottom three etc. It’s a difficult one because you rarely, if ever, hear of a manager leaving after he promotes a club. A new manager would have to take over without his own players.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Apr 9, 2018 18:18:18 GMT
He only had pennies to spend at Sheffield United and very nearly did it. Had West Ham been deducted points then they’d have stayed up. I think he did well at QPR too. They weren’t in the bottom three etc. It’s a difficult one because you rarely, if ever, hear of a manager leaving after he promotes a club. A new manager would have to take over without his own players. His style of football at Palace was awful though bro. But I do hope cardiff get promoted my 2nd favourite Welsh team and I enjoy the visits to the Cardiff City but sadly not the canton end.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 9, 2018 19:40:42 GMT
Is Neil Warnock staying at cardiff city if they get promoted? He really struggled at Palace. Very silly signing up Warnock for next season. He's had so many attempts at the PL and it's never worked out for him. That's not really true, he effectively got cheated out of survival at Sheffield United by the whole Carlos Tevez West Ham debacle. He got sacked by QPR despite not being in the relegation zone, only really justified sacking was at Palace Cardiff didn't expect to go up anyway, apparently he was offered and signed the exetension after a 4 game losing streak
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Post by bracklablue72 on Apr 9, 2018 19:55:57 GMT
They joke that keeps on giving! Sorry, two penalties misses in added on time, that has to be a first in world football! Going bankrupt twice must also be a first Back on point, there’s no excuse in professional football to miss two pens like that and very disappointing it was! However given the size of our budget, particularly in comparison to wolves, villa, derby, forest, boro, Fulham et al, this season has been superb. If we don’t go up automatically, as disappointing as it will undoubtedly be, it’s been a great season and still a shout at the play offs .. I hoped for a shot at 6th position but in reality my head told me 6th - 12th... Up the Capital!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 21:03:04 GMT
They joke that keeps on giving! Sorry, two penalties misses in added on time, that has to be a first in world football! Going bankrupt twice must also be a first Back on point, there’s no excuse in professional football to miss two pens like that and very disappointing it was! However given the size of our budget, particularly in comparison to wolves, villa, derby, forest, boro, Fulham et al, this season has been superb. If we don’t go up automatically, as disappointing as it will undoubtedly be, it’s been a great season and still a shout at the play offs .. I hoped for a shot at 6th position but in reality my head told me 6th - 12th... Up the Capital! Blue I think it's a bit harsh on the pen takers. Hoillets one would have been psychologically harder too given that Madine had just missed. They were both close to being great pens. Ralls has scored with very average pens this year. So much luck involved. I did feel at the time that Gunnar should have taken one though. I still have a strong feeling Cardiff will take second. It's better to drop into third with five to go rather than a game to go. Fulham have to play more motivated opponents. Psychology the situation has changed and I really think their run will end. I also think they are due an injury or two as they've been lucky in that department. The chased always gets done in the championship, especially 6th spot. Things might get decided when Cardiff go to craven cottage, but a draw might be good enough.
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Post by bracklablue72 on Apr 12, 2018 6:02:13 GMT
I agree with you about hoiletts pen being under more pressure but madines pen was awful... still..... lots of twists and turns left, with the added bonus of us having been confirmed in the play offs which makes this season a success
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Post by cymroircarn on Apr 12, 2018 6:32:02 GMT
Why didn’t Pilkington take one? He was the pen taker 2 years ago!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 6:53:10 GMT
Sure I saw two penalties missed at a Hereford United match once. The opposition ended up winning 1-0.
I’ve variously watched clubs where I’ve lived. Hereford, West Ham, Man City. When I come back to Wales then it’ll be Non League. I have issues with how both Cardiff and Swansea are run now. Tan betrayed the Bluebirds history and the Swans saviours sold themselves out. Having said that, I’d like to see them both in the Premier League again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 12:52:17 GMT
One thing Cardiff need to get sorted if they go up is their DVP squad. They need to recruits a few Ralls type signing to supplement the talent they may have in that age group. Their under 18's and below look in good shape, but the u23s are a disaster. I really worry that they continually throw the baby out with the bath water by continually ditching too many players at the end of the season. I hope the likes of James Waite don't get over-looked like other players have in the past.
Ash Baker was on the Sheffield Wednesday bench the other night and has made the bench for the owls a few times this season. Rolin Menayese has turned out for both Bristol Rovers in league one and Swindon this season. Are the players that Cardiff have brought in to replace these guys actually any better than them?
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 12, 2018 14:55:01 GMT
Sure I saw two penalties missed at a Hereford United match once. The opposition ended up winning 1-0. I’ve variously watched clubs where I’ve lived. Hereford, West Ham, Man City. When I come back to Wales then it’ll be Non League. I have issues with how both Cardiff and Swansea are run now. Tan betrayed the Bluebirds history and the Swans saviours sold themselves out. Having said that, I’d like to see them both in the Premier League again. Tan was advised poorly and has started righting the wrongs. He's easily one of the best owners Cardiff have had in a long time (that's not saying much though)
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 12, 2018 14:57:19 GMT
One thing Cardiff need to get sorted if they go up is their DVP squad. They need to recruits a few Ralls type signing to supplement the talent they may have in that age group. Their under 18's and below look in good shape, but the u23s are a disaster. I really worry that they continually throw the baby out with the bath water by continually ditching too many players at the end of the season. I hope the likes of James Waite don't get over-looked like other players have in the past. Ash Baker was on the Sheffield Wednesday bench the other night and has made the bench for the owls a few times this season. Rolin Menayese has turned out for both Bristol Rovers in league one and Swindon this season. Are the players that Cardiff have brought in to replace these guys actually any better than them? They've started sorting the DVP out by getting rid of a lot of them to start again next season when the U18s will move up, the DVP at this point is basically waiting for next season
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 12, 2018 14:58:15 GMT
I'm off to Carrow Road on Saturday. Must win at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 18:13:55 GMT
No amount of spin can change the red shirt and crest debacle. I know a few Cardiff and he isn’t popular.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 12, 2018 19:55:20 GMT
No amount of spin can change the red shirt and crest debacle. I know a few Cardiff and he isn’t popular. A lot of the people who continue to stay away have really started to annoy the Cardiff fans who've stuck with it and I can completely see why, some seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude because they left the club over the shirt changing colour for two and a half years The guy made a mistake, he's admitted he was wrong, has changed back to blue, supported the club financially, brought in a very good manager that has left us 3rd in the Championship playing the best football for about 8 years, certainly since the Dave Jones era. Now is time for them to forgive the guy.
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Post by Griff105 on Apr 12, 2018 21:07:35 GMT
Glad we cleared that up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 7:23:47 GMT
No amount of spin can change the red shirt and crest debacle. I know a few Cardiff and he isn’t popular. A lot of the people who continue to stay away have really started to annoy the Cardiff fans who've stuck with it and I can completely see why, some seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude because they left the club over the shirt changing colour for two and a half years The guy made a mistake, he's admitted he was wrong, has changed back to blue, supported the club financially, brought in a very good manager that has left us 3rd in the Championship playing the best football for about 8 years, certainly since the Dave Jones era. Now is time for them to forgive the guy. How do you know that for sure? I'd argue you're being more "holier than thou" for claiming you attend whilst they boycott or, more simply, just stay away. Circumstances can change very quickly in lives. It took him a while to bring Warnock in. They were hardly pulling up trees under Slade or Trollope, were they? Tan is still a prize idiot with an ego the size of Jupiter. Similarities to Thaksin Shinawatra and his circus at Manchester City.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 8:46:29 GMT
A lot of the people who continue to stay away have really started to annoy the Cardiff fans who've stuck with it and I can completely see why, some seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude because they left the club over the shirt changing colour for two and a half years The guy made a mistake, he's admitted he was wrong, has changed back to blue, supported the club financially, brought in a very good manager that has left us 3rd in the Championship playing the best football for about 8 years, certainly since the Dave Jones era. Now is time for them to forgive the guy. How do you know that for sure? I'd argue you're being more "holier than thou" for claiming you attend whilst they boycott or, more simply, just stay away. Circumstances can change very quickly in lives. It took him a while to bring Warnock in. They were hardly pulling up trees under Slade or Trollope, were they? Tan is still a prize idiot with an ego the size of Jupiter. Similarities to Thaksin Shinawatra and his circus at Manchester City. I actually think the Slade choice was a smarter choice than the club ever got credit for. Don't get me wrong, he was not up to managing in the championship. But the way I always saw it, the club needed a straw man / fall guy to be in place while the board got rid of as many poorly contracted and overpaid players as possible. Had they not done that, I think league one was likely. During the Slade era they still managed to keep their best assets - Ralls, Morrison, Manga, while getting rid of the squad load of chaff. As soon as Slade was gone they were in a position to pick up bargains like Bennett and Zohore etc. The one department I wish Slade was forced into paying better attention to was our youth players. He should have given one or two a chance I feel. There's no denying Slade was rubbish, but he was a necessary stepping stone for the club to get to Warnock and a pretty amazing shot at the autos.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 13, 2018 12:40:00 GMT
A lot of the people who continue to stay away have really started to annoy the Cardiff fans who've stuck with it and I can completely see why, some seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude because they left the club over the shirt changing colour for two and a half years The guy made a mistake, he's admitted he was wrong, has changed back to blue, supported the club financially, brought in a very good manager that has left us 3rd in the Championship playing the best football for about 8 years, certainly since the Dave Jones era. Now is time for them to forgive the guy. How do you know that for sure? I'd argue you're being more "holier than thou" for claiming you attend whilst they boycott or, more simply, just stay away. Circumstances can change very quickly in lives. It took him a while to bring Warnock in. They were hardly pulling up trees under Slade or Trollope, were they? Tan is still a prize idiot with an ego the size of Jupiter. Similarities to Thaksin Shinawatra and his circus at Manchester City. The amount of times people who stuck with it have been called "shit fans" by people who decided to stay away or not "true fans" implies a holier than thou attitude Of course circumstances can change and I'm not complaining about that, I'm talking about the people you still see on the forums and online who seem to think they deserve a personal apology from Vincent Tan because he changed the colour of a shirt and seem to think they deserve a medal because they still haven't gone back
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Post by manulike on Apr 14, 2018 15:56:04 GMT
Massive three points today - well done!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 16:14:27 GMT
Massive three points today - well done! Wasn't as good a performance as Cardiff got credit for in the Wolves or Villa losses, lacked intensity and the pairing of Damour and Gunnarson 1st half were just awful. Was paranoid the ref was going to decide the game as I he was blowing up every two minutes and only allowing the ball to be in play for about ten minutes across the 90. But we had a couple of moments of great quality in last ten minutes. Very lucky win. But I think the club were due one. Apparently Jazz is close to returning so Cardiff might field a Welshman before the season is through.
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Post by gwernybwch on Apr 14, 2018 19:37:06 GMT
Sure I saw two penalties missed at a Hereford United match once. The opposition ended up winning 1-0. I’ve variously watched clubs where I’ve lived. Hereford, West Ham, Man City. When I come back to Wales then it’ll be Non League. I have issues with how both Cardiff and Swansea are run now. Tan betrayed the Bluebirds history and the Swans saviours sold themselves out. Having said that, I’d like to see them both in the Premier League again. Tan was advised poorly and has started righting the wrongs. He's easily one of the best owners Cardiff have had in a long time (that's not saying much though) Isn't Tan just a more transparent and expensive version of Sam Hamman? Hamman gets the club into debt by £24m and then his company loans City the money at an above market rate interest and does his damnest to hide it. Tan gets the club into debt by £174m and personally loans the club £68m and then goes look at me, aren't I a good 'un, I'm not charging interest on it. Then when he gets to the debt limits set by the Malaysian government, he then converts the debt into shares / equity. I'm not really sure where Tan goes from here. I guess he is hoping to get his money out by selling the club as a Premier League club to another billionaire that is looking for a plaything. Alternatively do another debt / equity conversion, that way he will be able to spread his personal losses amongst the other shareholders. Alternatively he goes down the Hamman route and starts charging interest on his loans. (although fair play to Tan, he has been good to the FAW with regard to the use of the CCS)
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 15, 2018 21:20:54 GMT
Tan was advised poorly and has started righting the wrongs. He's easily one of the best owners Cardiff have had in a long time (that's not saying much though) Isn't Tan just a more transparent and expensive version of Sam Hamman? Hamman gets the club into debt by £24m and then his company loans City the money at an above market rate interest and does his damnest to hide it. Tan gets the club into debt by £174m and personally loans the club £68m and then goes look at me, aren't I a good 'un, I'm not charging interest on it. Then when he gets to the debt limits set by the Malaysian government, he then converts the debt into shares / equity. I'm not really sure where Tan goes from here. I guess he is hoping to get his money out by selling the club as a Premier League club to another billionaire that is looking for a plaything. Alternatively do another debt / equity conversion, that way he will be able to spread his personal losses amongst the other shareholders. Alternatively he goes down the Hamman route and starts charging interest on his loans. (although fair play to Tan, he has been good to the FAW with regard to the use of the CCS) At least Tan isn't getting into bed with the "Soul Crew" like Hamman did I'd say he quite likes the prestige of owning a football club, especially one in the Premier League (which is a possibility), it sounds daft but when you're that rich money most lose its value and importance. He's a massive egotist, anyone with that kind of money has to be, and watching his team playing against some other billionaire's team might do it for him, who knows? With the money going around the Premier League now, sensible investment is enough to keep a club up and to make a considerable amount of money. The people who know a lot more about the money side of things than I do reckon he's a good owner, so that's good enough for me
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Post by cymru98 on Apr 24, 2018 19:29:19 GMT
1 nil up against Derby in a crucial game!
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Post by iot on Apr 24, 2018 20:14:08 GMT
derby equalise - bit of a shocker from etheridge. Lawrence is having a very poor game too from what I've seen
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Post by cymru98 on Apr 24, 2018 20:50:09 GMT
derby equalise - bit of a shocker from etheridge. Lawrence is having a very poor game too from what I've seen Jerome 😒
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 24, 2018 20:53:50 GMT
Cardiff have a case of the Wrexhams. Only need Swansea to get relegated for a Welsh club bottle treble
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