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Giggs
Feb 11, 2019 19:36:42 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 11, 2019 19:36:42 GMT
Keeping tabs on Dylan Levitt?
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Post by biwmares on Feb 11, 2019 19:45:15 GMT
Keeping tabs on Dylan Levitt? Mmm possibly , I would rather he was at Utd because Pogba has switched allegiances to Wales.
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Giggs
Feb 12, 2019 15:48:33 GMT
Post by massivefloodlights on Feb 12, 2019 15:48:33 GMT
It’s not utter rubbish. I can attest to the feelings during the Andorra game as I was one of the ones there saying he’d have to go if we hadn’t won. Regarding Giggs, the petulance, arrogance and hypocrisy of the people on this board, and Welsh fans in general, regarding Giggs, never fails to make me laugh. I regularly read snipes and remarks regarding his personal life across various forms of social media. These views are usually made by people who champion Bellamy, who assaulted a woman, and Coleman, who was dipping it about that much that his wife was spying on him. These people are not paid to be role models, they are paid to get results, and prior to the disappointing double header against Denmark and Albania there was little complaint about the job Giggs was doing. I concede that it doesn’t look good that Giggs public duties are often concerning Salford or Manchester United. At this point, that is all it is detrimental to, image. If the qualification campaign is an unmitigated disaster for Giggs, as I am sure some with this warped, poisonous agenda would secretly like, from the off then fair enough. Until then get behind the man and stop spreading negativity. Welcome to the board, but if you had even bothered to read on the page earlier, you would have read that I was responding to the comment that EVERYBODY wanted Coleman out BEFORE the Andorra game. To suggest that there was some kind of Gould esque dislike of Coleman before the start of Euro 2016 qualification was disingenuous. You think that Giggs not watching Wales players play, not meeting with the fans, not going to meet School kids, not spending time at Dragon Park, only has a detrimental impact on his image? I can see some heated debates coming your way! To suggest Giggs doesn’t get out and about is nonsense. www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/16032732.gaffer-giggs-pops-in-to-delight-young-wrexham-footballers/www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/16234844.ryan-giggs-wales-manager-makes-surprise-visit-to-rhosddu-wrexham/
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Post by gwernybwch on Feb 12, 2019 15:59:19 GMT
Are you trolling? You given TWO examples in Wales in the last year or so. He has been to the same number of events in Manchester in the last WEEK. In that week he has collected £1300 in wages. Paid for by you and me.
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Giggs
Feb 12, 2019 16:42:02 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Feb 12, 2019 16:42:02 GMT
Are you trolling? You given TWO examples in Wales in the last year or so. He has been to the same number of events in Manchester in the last WEEK. In that week he has collected £1300 in wages. Paid for by you and me. From what's been quoted, Giggs is on a salary of approx 500k per annum with Wales, that amounts to £9615 per week, or as you mentioned £1300+ per day.
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Giggs
Feb 12, 2019 19:57:45 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 12, 2019 19:57:45 GMT
Are you trolling? You given TWO examples in Wales in the last year or so. He has been to the same number of events in Manchester in the last WEEK. In that week he has collected £1300 in wages. Paid for by you and me. We all knew, or didn’t want to accept, Giggs was going to be uncommitted (I think he’s done 3 with the Anglesey 4G). At what point do the FAW get on the phone to him and demand more for our money? We’ve beaten an awful Ireland team and an awful China team, lost to anyone who had a bit of something about them, he’s giving us absolutely nothing for that money.
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Giggs
Feb 12, 2019 22:02:49 GMT
Post by biwmares on Feb 12, 2019 22:02:49 GMT
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Giggs
Feb 13, 2019 11:40:51 GMT
Post by insertname on Feb 13, 2019 11:40:51 GMT
Obviously checking on the form of the Welsh players involved- non story imo.
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Giggs
Feb 13, 2019 12:32:18 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 13, 2019 12:32:18 GMT
Obviously checking on the form of the Welsh players involved- non story imo. Probably scouting M’bappe so he can give Tyler Roberts a few hints.
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Giggs
Feb 13, 2019 12:45:47 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Feb 13, 2019 12:45:47 GMT
He went to the supermarket to buy food the other day as well. Bastard.
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Post by dai on Feb 13, 2019 14:38:55 GMT
I understand why some people are pissed at his actions, but if this was anyone else apart from Giggs, no one would bat an eyelid.
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Post by gwernybwch on Feb 13, 2019 14:53:24 GMT
He went to the supermarket to buy food the other day as well. Bastard. I'm (paddy power) betting that the supermarket wasn't in Wales.....
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Post by insertname on Feb 13, 2019 21:17:16 GMT
I understand why some people are pissed at his actions, but if this was anyone else apart from Giggs, no one would bat an eyelid. Not really, well I would. I mean we don't know what his job description is, we know Coleman was a great advert but maybe Coleman went above amd beyond what was expected and that has set the bar higher than Giggs would ever dream of trying to climb over. But when you have the top man, whoever he is, hardly ever heard of at matches where Welsh players are and yet very prominent in checking in on his business interests and 'real' allegiances it isn't a good look really and it does make one wonder how invested in the job he is.
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Giggs
Feb 13, 2019 21:21:43 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 13, 2019 21:21:43 GMT
He went to the supermarket to buy food the other day as well. Bastard. Well to be fair he needs to eat so got no problem with that. He needs to do his job too, instead of being a Man United fanboy. I’ve actually got a radical idea on how he can get the fans to cut him some slack.... regularly watch players eligible for the Welsh National Team! Preferably people who can make an immediate impact on our chances in qualification too, not our third choice goalkeeper. He could also build up a connection to the fans by promoting the game at a grassroots level, possibly one club a week shouldn’t be too big of an ask, make Welsh youngsters dreams come true instead of giving Man United corporate partners a selfie opportunity. Serious questions... are you happy with the job he is doing? Do you think we’re getting good value for money?
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 7:23:54 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2019 7:23:54 GMT
He went to the supermarket to buy food the other day as well. Bastard. Well to be fair he needs to eat so got no problem with that. He needs to do his job too, instead of being a Man United fanboy. I’ve actually got a radical idea on how he can get the fans to cut him some slack.... regularly watch players eligible for the Welsh National Team! Preferably people who can make an immediate impact on our chances in qualification too, not our third choice goalkeeper. He could also build up a connection to the fans by promoting the game at a grassroots level, possibly one club a week shouldn’t be too big of an ask, make Welsh youngsters dreams come true instead of giving Man United corporate partners a selfie opportunity. Serious questions... are you happy with the job he is doing? Do you think we’re getting good value for money? Conwy I get it and I agree with you. If i was doing the job I would be watching as many of our players as I could fit in and enjoy it at the same time. However I just don't think we need 5 minute updates on his whereabouts, it doesn't serve any purpose. You have to see that. As for do I think he's doing a good job? Surely he will be judged on the qualifiers. So far 'par for the course' I would say in that we have struggled against established solid units like Denmark and Uruguay and walked over Ireland and China. Albania was a joke but I'll let that one slide as it was experimental and we blooded in new players making our player pool bigger.
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 14, 2019 8:00:51 GMT
Well to be fair he needs to eat so got no problem with that. He needs to do his job too, instead of being a Man United fanboy. I’ve actually got a radical idea on how he can get the fans to cut him some slack.... regularly watch players eligible for the Welsh National Team! Preferably people who can make an immediate impact on our chances in qualification too, not our third choice goalkeeper. He could also build up a connection to the fans by promoting the game at a grassroots level, possibly one club a week shouldn’t be too big of an ask, make Welsh youngsters dreams come true instead of giving Man United corporate partners a selfie opportunity. Serious questions... are you happy with the job he is doing? Do you think we’re getting good value for money? Conwy I get it and I agree with you. If i was doing the job I would be watching as many of our players as I could fit in and enjoy it at the same time. However I just don't think we need 5 minute updates on his whereabouts, it doesn't serve any purpose. You have to see that. As for do I think he's doing a good job? Surely he will be judged on the qualifiers. So far 'par for the course' I would say in that we have struggled against established solid units like Denmark and Uruguay and walked over Ireland and China. Albania was a joke but I'll let that one slide as it was experimental and we blooded in new players making our player pool bigger. The updates are him being spotted doing stuff at Man United though. If they are 5 minute updates it’s because he’s at Man United every 5 minutes. His heart just isn’t in the job. Before Albania he’d actually won we over, I thought Denmark were a quality team and Ireland were a decent outfit, seeing the Albania game was a harsh reality check for me. Since then he’s made no attempt to make it up to the fans, if I did something bad in work I’d work hard to give something back to compensate, he hasn’t. He hasn’t been spotted in an FAW Tracksuit.
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 8:20:22 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2019 8:20:22 GMT
I'm not defending him at all but it's his comfort zone probably. Somewhere he feels safe, wanted and adored unconditionally. Therefore he spends all his free time there. I wonder how people would react if he stopped going to Old Trafford and started hanging around Cardiff City Stadium? No one would say anything even though they also have 0 Welsh players.
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 11:02:36 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Feb 14, 2019 11:02:36 GMT
I'm not defending him at all but it's his comfort zone probably. Somewhere he feels safe, wanted and adored unconditionally. Therefore he spends all his free time there. I wonder how people would react if he stopped going to Old Trafford and started hanging around Cardiff City Stadium? No one would say anything even though they also have 0 Welsh players. Nonsense! He's supposed to be Wales manager, not Man U/Salford meet and greet.
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 16:08:18 GMT
Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2019 16:08:18 GMT
I'm not defending him at all but it's his comfort zone probably. Somewhere he feels safe, wanted and adored unconditionally. Therefore he spends all his free time there. I wonder how people would react if he stopped going to Old Trafford and started hanging around Cardiff City Stadium? No one would say anything even though they also have 0 Welsh players. Nonsense! He's supposed to be Wales manager, not Man U/Salford meet and greet. Did you not see the part where i explained rather than defended him before 'articulately' shooting down my post? Actually you're absolutely right, please tell us every single time he enters old Trafford from this point onwards. I can't wait.
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2019 16:12:39 GMT
This thread is called 'Lets get behind him'. Not because he's a moral human being, because he's our manager. Let's judge him solely on competitive games and more specifically the upcoming qualifiers. I'm not a Giggs fan boy btw and wanted either Carl Robinson or Bellamy to be honest. But he got the job and we need to be united to move forward (pardon the pun - lol). Do we really need to know where he is 24/7?
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 16:34:19 GMT
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Post by cadno on Feb 14, 2019 16:34:19 GMT
This thread is called 'Lets get behind him'. Not because he's a moral human being, because he's our manager. Let's judge him solely on competitive games and more specifically the upcoming qualifiers. I'm not a Giggs fan boy btw and wanted either Carl Robinson or Bellamy to be honest. But he got the job and we need to be united to move forward (pardon the pun - lol). Do we really need to know where he is 24/7? Spot on!
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 16:46:46 GMT
Post by alarch on Feb 14, 2019 16:46:46 GMT
This thread is called 'Lets get behind him'. Not because he's a moral human being, because he's our manager. Let's judge him solely on competitive games and more specifically the upcoming qualifiers. I'm not a Giggs fan boy btw and wanted either Carl Robinson or Bellamy to be honest. But he got the job and we need to be united to move forward (pardon the pun - lol). Do we really need to know where he is 24/7? You have a bit of a point, and I always thought that all the banging on about his personal history prior to his appointment was way OTT. But I get the impression that Giggs doesn't give a shit what people think of him - so people may as well vent their spleen.
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 14, 2019 19:18:51 GMT
This thread is called 'Lets get behind him'. Not because he's a moral human being, because he's our manager. Let's judge him solely on competitive games and more specifically the upcoming qualifiers. I'm not a Giggs fan boy btw and wanted either Carl Robinson or Bellamy to be honest. But he got the job and we need to be united to move forward (pardon the pun - lol). Do we really need to know where he is 24/7? How can we get behind him when he isn’t even behind us? You’re exaggerating suggesting we’re asking for 24/7, we aren’t asking him to go to every match with a Welsh player in, we’re asking him to go to A match with a Welsh player in. So far all he’s done is watched Barnsley and apparently left when a Welshman came in the pitch. Go watch Stoke for Williams and Allen, go watch Bournemouth for Brooks and Mepham, go watch Swansea for Roberts and James. Go make the kids dreams come true at Pwllheli Under 6’s. If he did something I wouldn’t care about where he is, the only reason I care is to see where he considers better than Wales... the ones who are funding his carefree lifestyle.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Feb 14, 2019 19:38:37 GMT
Nonsense! He's supposed to be Wales manager, not Man U/Salford meet and greet. Did you not see the part where i explained rather than defended him before 'articulately' shooting down my post? Actually you're absolutely right, please tell us every single time he enters old Trafford from this point onwards. I can't wait. For my response read Conwy10's excellent comment above. It's only because we care about the Wales team and its success that these criticisms are being made. We seem to care more than the current very well paid manager. He should be more high profile (like Coleman was) in and around Wales, even if he just shows his face at a few clubs/schools.
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 19:42:46 GMT
Post by aberbeeg on Feb 14, 2019 19:42:46 GMT
Can only begin to think how quickly things will deteriorate if we have a few more shit results. As a Welshman myself it’s slways hard to criticise a fellow Welshman but he’s almost tried or tries to be NOT Welsh at times and ( for obvious reasons) has a huge connection with Manure and Salford.
It will be interesting to see how much time Scholes now spends at Salford now he has become a fellow manager
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Giggs
Feb 14, 2019 20:02:21 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2019 20:02:21 GMT
I will say that I agree he doesn't do enough regarding watching games but I'd rather him watch the younger ones like ampadu, Brooks mepham etc rather than the established ones e.g the stoke players if they're both on at the same time.
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Giggs
Feb 15, 2019 1:12:09 GMT
Post by georgetm1 on Feb 15, 2019 1:12:09 GMT
Giggs is just a Manc born in Cardiff. That's all he ever was and it's what his actions show.
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 15, 2019 9:49:51 GMT
Giggs is just a Manc born in Cardiff. That's all he ever was and it's what his actions show. We have a new song for the Slovakia game
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Giggs
Feb 15, 2019 19:49:35 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 15, 2019 19:49:35 GMT
Giggs is just a Manc born in Cardiff. That's all he ever was and it's what his actions show. We have a new song for the Slovakia game He’s a Manc-er?! 🤔
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Giggs
Feb 17, 2019 23:57:19 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 17, 2019 23:57:19 GMT
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