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Post by manulike on Sept 4, 2018 22:28:43 GMT
The FSF still reporting only 25k tickets sold, which is a little sad ;-(
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Post by ae15 on Sept 4, 2018 22:40:17 GMT
Irishmen, what do you think are the chances of Cyrus Christie starting at right midfield? Your attacking options are all very inexperienced in international football, and I can't see MON being very ambitious. Plus it gives you the option of the long throw?
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Post by manulike on Sept 4, 2018 22:42:30 GMT
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 4, 2018 22:49:21 GMT
Hennessey
Gunter Mepham Chester Davies
Allen Ledley
Brooks Ramsey Lawrence
Bale
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Post by iot on Sept 4, 2018 23:05:30 GMT
I stand by what I've said a couple of times already. I get the temptation to play Bale as a false 9 so that we can fit in our other wide players, but he's never played that role before. He's played as an out and out striker for Real Madrid a few times and been ineffective, with teams finding it easy to shut him out of the game. Do we really want to run the risk of nullifying our, by a county mile, greatest attacking threat?
To get the best out of Bale, he needs to play off someone. Unfortunately, the best option we probably have at the moment is Vokes so I'd go with him.
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Post by superunknown on Sept 4, 2018 23:06:51 GMT
Who do the Irish fans want as manager instead of MON? Roy Keane? Heard Stephen Kenny thrown about, manager of Dundalk but naturally his lack of experience isn't really in his favour. Some would even take big Mick back at this point. |
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Post by ae15 on Sept 5, 2018 1:19:37 GMT
Thought it was about time for the classic 'look through training photos for clues on starting XI' trick. Expected to find nothing, but got this: archive.propaganda-photo.com/portfolio/G0000vZRSQPg7ba4/I0000VfmE7b.61MkPicture 108, 11 players talking to Giggs: Hennessey, Gunter, Mepham, Williams, Davies, Ampadu, Allen, Ramsey, Bale, Lawrence and Brooks. Resembles a team anyway! |
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Post by ravishingrick on Sept 5, 2018 2:42:38 GMT
Who do the Irish fans want as manager instead of MON? Roy Keane? Heard Stephen Kenny thrown about, manager of Dundalk but naturally his lack of experience isn't really in his favour. Some would even take big Mick back at this point. There is less than zero percent of a chance that Kenny would ever get the Irish job. As you say most likely someone like Big Mick or even Big Sam I'd imagine. It will be someone where compensation does not need to be paid for anyway. |
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Post by idj68 on Sept 5, 2018 5:59:08 GMT
I stand by what I've said a couple of times already. I get the temptation to play Bale as a false 9 so that we can fit in our other wide players, but he's never played that role before. He's played as an out and out striker for Real Madrid a few times and been ineffective, with teams finding it easy to shut him out of the game. Do we really want to run the risk of nullifying our, by a county mile, greatest attacking threat? To get the best out of Bale, he needs to play off someone. Unfortunately, the best option we probably have at the moment is Vokes so I'd go with him. I don’t see anything false about it ! He is a proper forward , with proper instinct and can “sniff” goals ...false 9’s in think Hazard,Messi when Suarez is out . He’s 29 it will be his role come the next championship and to be fair nobody looked good up top for Madrid when Ronaldo was there...they weren’t allowed to! He is our best finisher so when his legs go and he can’t run at them for 90 mins it’s the perfect solution in reality it but maybe 18 months away, it may reduce some of his impact but it may make us a better team. |
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 5, 2018 6:17:24 GMT
Please stop talking about poppies and sectarianism, absolutely no need for it. This is a football forum and a Welsh one at that. Agreed I mentioned this earlier on. |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 5, 2018 6:50:51 GMT
Thought it was about time for the classic 'look through training photos for clues on starting XI' trick. Expected to find nothing, but got this: archive.propaganda-photo.com/portfolio/G0000vZRSQPg7ba4/I0000VfmE7b.61MkPicture 108, 11 players talking to Giggs: Hennessey, Gunter, Mepham, Williams, Davies, Ampadu, Allen, Ramsey, Bale, Lawrence and Brooks. Resembles a team anyway! Tweeted about this yesterday  |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 5, 2018 6:58:59 GMT
If Vokes doesn’t start up top it doesn’t necessarily mean Bale will, Lawrence can play there and has done more often in his career than Gareth.
Like others have said, Bale is far more effective playing behind and/or wider than a typical number 9 role. No doubt he could do a job there but he’s much better roaming freely in the spaces between the lines.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2018 7:28:15 GMT
Who do the Irish fans want as manager instead of MON? Roy Keane? Heard Stephen Kenny thrown about, manager of Dundalk but naturally his lack of experience isn't really in his favour. Some would even take big Mick back at this point. Sam Allardyce has also been mentioned. Could be a good fit for them actually. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2018 8:09:57 GMT
I stand by what I've said a couple of times already. I get the temptation to play Bale as a false 9 so that we can fit in our other wide players, but he's never played that role before. He's played as an out and out striker for Real Madrid a few times and been ineffective, with teams finding it easy to shut him out of the game. Do we really want to run the risk of nullifying our, by a county mile, greatest attacking threat? To get the best out of Bale, he needs to play off someone. Unfortunately, the best option we probably have at the moment is Vokes so I'd go with him. I don’t see anything false about it ! He is a proper forward , with proper instinct and can “sniff” goals ...false 9’s in think Hazard,Messi when Suarez is out . He’s 29 it will be his role come the next championship and to be fair nobody looked good up top for Madrid when Ronaldo was there...they weren’t allowed to! He is our best finisher so when his legs go and he can’t run at them for 90 mins it’s the perfect solution in reality it but maybe 18 months away, it may reduce some of his impact but it may make us a better team. He's a good finisher, but I'm not sure if he has the instinct to play in that position. Most of Ronaldo's goals were tap ins whereas Bale scores very few of those. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2018 8:11:49 GMT
If Vokes doesn’t start up top it doesn’t necessarily mean Bale will, Lawrence can play there and has done more often in his career than Gareth. Like others have said, Bale is far more effective playing behind and/or wider than a typical number 9 role. No doubt he could do a job there but he’s much better roaming freely in the spaces between the lines. True, but Lawrence' performances have been 'mixed', to be kind, in that position. Does he have enough of a presence for it? |
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Post by melynwy on Sept 5, 2018 8:28:31 GMT
If Vokes doesn’t start up top it doesn’t necessarily mean Bale will, Lawrence can play there and has done more often in his career than Gareth. Like others have said, Bale is far more effective playing behind and/or wider than a typical number 9 role. No doubt he could do a job there but he’s much better roaming freely in the spaces between the lines. True, but Lawrence' performances have been 'mixed', to be kind, in that position. Does he have enough of a presence for it? Maybe, but its better we sacrifice someone other than our greatest ever player for what is probably the least important position on the pitch. |
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Post by bleddccfc on Sept 5, 2018 9:06:05 GMT
I always drive to Radyr train station as there's plenty of parking and get the short train to Ninian Park. That sounds like a good idea ! Does that skip most of the traffic getting out the stadium then ? cheers mate Yes, all of it. |
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2018 9:06:39 GMT
True, but Lawrence' performances have been 'mixed', to be kind, in that position. Does he have enough of a presence for it? Maybe, but its better we sacrifice someone other than our greatest ever player for what is probably the least important position on the pitch. Certainly, that's the main thing I want to avoid too. I was just wondering which of Lawrence and Vokes would be most effective in that position. However, the vast bulk of preferred lineups I've seen (both here and on Twitter) have had Bale up top! It's something we should test as there's clearly an appetite for it, but I'd suggest it would be better to do that in the Spain/Albania friendlies than in a competitive game. |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 5, 2018 10:36:53 GMT
No way should we play Bale up top in the next competitive game against Ireland in my opinion, for a number of reasons. It hasn't proven to be the most effective position for him with Real Madrid and there's more chance of the opposition being able to intercept him. I think he could also become the main target for ugly rugby-style tackles as the opposition seek to nullify him. Just no.
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Post by ae15 on Sept 5, 2018 11:50:51 GMT
Thought it was about time for the classic 'look through training photos for clues on starting XI' trick. Expected to find nothing, but got this: archive.propaganda-photo.com/portfolio/G0000vZRSQPg7ba4/I0000VfmE7b.61MkPicture 108, 11 players talking to Giggs: Hennessey, Gunter, Mepham, Williams, Davies, Ampadu, Allen, Ramsey, Bale, Lawrence and Brooks. Resembles a team anyway! Tweeted about this yesterday How did I miss that! Scrolled through dozens of photos of Giggs looking at a stopwatch for nothing  |
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Post by notpropaganda on Sept 5, 2018 11:56:42 GMT
Irishmen, what do you think are the chances of Cyrus Christie starting at right midfield? Your attacking options are all very inexperienced in international football, and I can't see MON being very ambitious. Plus it gives you the option of the long throw? Be very surprised if that happens in all honesty. But who knows, MON is known to do whatever the fuck he wants. If yous don't win by 2 I'll be surprised. Fully expect Bale to tear us a new one. Most I'm hoping for is encouraging performances from the newer faces in the squad. |
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Post by dai on Sept 5, 2018 12:25:00 GMT
Getting a bit nervous about tomorrow. There's a bit of strange vibe about the match with all of Ireland's misfortunes, off pitch drama, and the lack of promotion in the press.
And with everything that's going on with the Danish FA, it's turning into a bizarre international break.
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Post by Albert on Sept 5, 2018 13:28:14 GMT
If the stadium plan is true then we should be topping 30k tomorrow night ? Anyone else think this .
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Post by rangers15 on Sept 5, 2018 13:31:50 GMT
it is all a bit weird with all the shenanigans with the Denmark game, but i am absolutely bouncing for tomorrows game!!!
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 5, 2018 13:36:27 GMT
Same here. To quote Jonny Owen on Don't Take Me Home...I am 'ridiculously excited' for the game tomorrow.
Not sure if its the 10 month gap since the last home fixture but I cant wait to arrive in Cardiff and get on it.
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Post by superunknown on Sept 5, 2018 13:46:59 GMT
Same here. To quote Jonny Owen on Don't Take Me Home...I am 'ridiculously excited' for the game tomorrow. Not sure if its the 10 month gap since the last home fixture but I cant wait to arrive in Cardiff and get on it. Same, for once I don't mind the long train down from Wrexham, chance for a load of cans and then the standard pub crawl towards Canton. |
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 5, 2018 13:54:43 GMT
I'm feeling really positive about our chances of 6 points for once. I think Giggs will be braver with his starting XI than many think as he's alluded to playing 'attacking, expansive, quick passing football'. This is simply not possible with Ledley and King.
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Post by zenith on Sept 5, 2018 13:56:13 GMT
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Post by underwood on Sept 5, 2018 14:12:26 GMT
If the stadium plan is true then we should be topping 30k tomorrow night ? Anyone else think this . Sales have definitely picked up, but it won’t get near 30k. When you consider that the away end is a third full & a couple of blocks have been kept free for segregation purposes, there aren’t 30k available for Welsh fans to purchase anyway. 27,000 would be my guess & that is very respectable, I thought it would be a lot less. |
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Post by Albert on Sept 5, 2018 15:17:12 GMT
If the stadium plan is true then we should be topping 30k tomorrow night ? Anyone else think this . Sales have definitely picked up, but it won’t get near 30k. When you consider that the away end is a third full & a couple of blocks have been kept free for segregation purposes, there aren’t 30k available for Welsh fans to purchase anyway. 27,000 would be my guess & that is very respectable, I thought it would be a lot less. Segregation last October was a strip of 10 seats all the way down, I'm just working out how many seats are left . I think every block has come available. Any idea how many Irish are coming? |
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