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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 27, 2020 15:09:23 GMT
Was going to say - has Matthews got Premier League & Club World Cup winners medals to his name? Did he nick one from a Chelsea player in 2015 when he was at Sunderland or something? At 19 Matthews had 40 Championship appearances under his belt, its hardly like Williams was integral to winning those competitions either I agree with your point, but therefore itโs still silly to say that Matthews has a better CV. Neco has the better CV & Matthews has the experience - no doubts |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 27, 2020 15:50:31 GMT
Neco has a better CV than Adam did at his age Was going to say - has Matthews got Premier League & Club World Cup winners medals to his name? Did he nick one from a Chelsea player in 2015 when he was at Sunderland or something? Neco Williams isn't a premier league winner sorry. He played 0 minutes before they were champions! |
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Post by cadno on Aug 27, 2020 16:19:00 GMT
Problem with Matthews is that his previous commitment is questionable, and I know for a fact he's turned down Wales twice when called up and fully fit. One was because he'd booked a boys holiday, and didn't want to miss that............... However I still think he should be ahead of Gunter based on the past 12 months. O ni ddim yn gwbod hwn, explains a lot, achos ma Matthews shwr o fod yn well 'na Gunter, ond ma C.G wastod yn troi lan a rhoi 6/10 neu 7/10 performance. |
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Post by cadno on Aug 27, 2020 16:30:09 GMT
At least we have plenty of choice with Williams, Gunter, Roberts, Matthews and Jazz at RB.
Our games over the next few months will give N.W an opportunity to show his quality!
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 27, 2020 16:44:00 GMT
At least we have plenty of choice with Williams, Gunter, Roberts, Matthews and Jazz at RB. Our games over the next few months will give N.W an opportunity to show his quality! Any news on Jazz getting a new club? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 27, 2020 17:07:34 GMT
Was going to say - has Matthews got Premier League & Club World Cup winners medals to his name? Did he nick one from a Chelsea player in 2015 when he was at Sunderland or something? Neco Williams isn't a premier league winner sorry. He played 0 minutes before they were champions! I mean he literally is a Premier League winner by the definition - he has a Premier League winner's medal If you think his contribution doesn't justify a medal that's your prerogative & it's an issue that can be taken up with the league. However, I would still personally contest that view |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 27, 2020 18:05:56 GMT
Neco Williams isn't a premier league winner sorry. He played 0 minutes before they were champions! I mean he literally is a Premier League winner by the definition - he has a Premier League winner's medal If you think his contribution doesn't justify a medal that's your prerogative & it's an issue that can be taken up with the league. However, I would still personally contest that view How can he have won it when he didn't play? You could say he was part of the squad and training etc but that don't really cut it for me. Does that mean Joe Allen is a winner too as he trained there 3 seasons previously with most of the players? |
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Post by cadno on Aug 27, 2020 19:35:47 GMT
Neco Williams isn't a premier league winner sorry. He played 0 minutes before they were champions! I mean he literally is a Premier League winner by the definition - he has a Premier League winner's medal If you think his contribution doesn't justify a medal that's your prerogative & it's an issue that can be taken up with the league. However, I would still personally contest that view Come on mun. |
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Post by cadno on Aug 27, 2020 19:37:10 GMT
At least we have plenty of choice with Williams, Gunter, Roberts, Matthews and Jazz at RB. Our games over the next few months will give N.W an opportunity to show his quality! Any news on Jazz getting a new club? I haven't heard anything, you'd think someone would pick him up. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 27, 2020 20:47:18 GMT
I mean he literally is a Premier League winner by the definition - he has a Premier League winner's medal If you think his contribution doesn't justify a medal that's your prerogative & it's an issue that can be taken up with the league. However, I would still personally contest that view How can he have won it when he didn't play? You could say he was part of the squad and training etc but that don't really cut it for me. Does that mean Joe Allen is a winner too as he trained there 3 seasons previously with most of the players? I mean you say how can he have won it - but he has a medal you do know that right? It might not cut it for you that he was part of the squad, but it cuts it for Klopp "If people don't understand how important the squad is to win the championship then I can't help them to be honest. If you are the second goalie and you have less games you should have a medal, because you train five million times over a year and if you don't (all) train at the highest level then you have no chance to win the championship (as a squad)" - www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportbible.com/football/news-every-liverpool-player-to-get-a-premier-league-winners-medal-20200704.amp.htmlFerguson used to say the same thing - if your back up players aren't pushing the players in front of them in the pecking order to keep their place then the standards will drop. Given consistency is the most important thing you need to win a title, competition for places is very important I myself have been part of teams that have won league titles and the common theme is that our bench players were always pushing the starters so no one felt safe You can play down the importance of this if you want, but I learn all I can from masters of the game like Ferguson & Klopp and if that's their opinion then it's certainly something you need to consider As I said I believe Neco deserves it, but if you wish to disagree with the Premier League medal sitting in his cabinet as we speak you're more than welcome to argue against it - I for one think it's a great achievement for someone at his age |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2020 12:10:08 GMT
A lot of reports that Trent won't be fit enough to play today & Neco is expected to start - should be interesting
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Post by manulike on Aug 29, 2020 13:47:01 GMT
A lot of reports that Trent won't be fit enough to play today & Neco is expected to start - should be interesting That's OK. I still have nightmares from his last match against the mighty Gunners ;-))
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Post by erasedcitizen on Aug 29, 2020 14:33:19 GMT
Yep, he's starting.
Pob lwc Neco!
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Post by dai on Aug 29, 2020 15:58:47 GMT
Oh dear, seems he was at fault for Arsenal's goal??
He's getting absolutely mauled on Twitter.
It's always a Welshman isn't it!
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Aug 29, 2020 16:09:00 GMT
He's getting blamed, but dont really see what he's meant to do there. He's been left 2v1 with absolutely no support from Salah, and has to take a gamble either way. If he shows him outside then he slips Tierney in for a sitter.
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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2020 16:22:41 GMT
I thought Tottenham and Arsenal fans were the most pathetic I have seen when they were dissing Bale and Ramsey (the latter after he came back from his foot hanging off his ankle.
Then I look at the Twitter feed on Neco and its unreal. You would have sworn Neco was totally hopeless for the goal judging by the reaction, but no one is expected to score from there and as stated they had a 2 to 1 overload. Listened on the radio and the criticsm was way out of proportion! I have never seen 20 or so twitter lines in a row just criticise a 19 year old!
I wonder why all these players choose Wales over England! The sense of entitlement is astounding!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2020 16:23:32 GMT
Wow! No chance that any defender in that situation can be blamed!!!
If he closes Aubameyang down Tierney is in behind and they probably score any way - in a 2v1 you're always damned if you do damned if you don't. This is why social media fans who have never played the game annoy me with their opinions so much - no actual understanding of how the game works
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 29, 2020 16:26:53 GMT
Gomez fucked up not long after and would have resulted in another goal with better finishing. Is he getting slaughtered?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2020 16:30:32 GMT
Gomez fucked up not long after and would have resulted in another goal with better finishing. Is he getting slaughtered? Nope! Btw for anyone who isn't watching the game - Neco's doing just fine. Liverpool in general are a little rusty and let Arsenal in a few times on the break, but Neco has put in some dangerous balls & Liverpool have been on the front foot for the most part so haven't actually had to do that much defending |
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Post by dai on Aug 29, 2020 16:32:55 GMT
Well, at least he's trending on Twitter......for all the wrong reasons of course.
I've seen the goal now, and yes he does back off and invite the shot in, but it's hardly a mistake.
But he seems to be getting slagged off at every opportunity.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Aug 29, 2020 16:37:08 GMT
The emphasis on players giving man of the match performances every game as soon as theyโre out of the womb is now utterly ridiculous.
People lack common sense a a bit of bleeding perspective. Heโs 19, playing in a highly watched game at Wembley- against a world class player! Wilfully ignorant.
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Post by dai on Aug 29, 2020 16:42:16 GMT
It's an absolute pathetic response from so called football 'fans'. Jesus, I hate football in this day and age sometimes - fickle fans, too much expectation, entitlement.....
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Post by iot on Aug 29, 2020 16:52:40 GMT
Definitely not at fault for the goal and he wasn't terrible at all, but did seem quite nervy throughout. A 5/10 performance for me
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2020 16:55:28 GMT
Definitely not at fault for the goal and he wasn't terrible at all, but did seem quite nervy throughout. A 5/10 performance for me 100% agree. Nothing special - but not terrible either. Which from a Welsh perspective is still positive tbh. He's certainly played much better for them before He's come off after an hour so that Fabinho can drop into the back 4 to accommodate more attacking midfielders |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Aug 29, 2020 17:03:43 GMT
I think he struggles to bounce back from early setbacks during matches currently e.g. today, playing Gayle onside vs Newcastle. Again, totally understandable given his age and the fact that Liverpool fullbacks push up so high and are constantly exposed.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 29, 2020 21:50:39 GMT
How can he have won it when he didn't play? You could say he was part of the squad and training etc but that don't really cut it for me. Does that mean Joe Allen is a winner too as he trained there 3 seasons previously with most of the players? I mean you say how can he have won it - but he has a medal you do know that right? It might not cut it for you that he was part of the squad, but it cuts it for Klopp "If people don't understand how important the squad is to win the championship then I can't help them to be honest. If you are the second goalie and you have less games you should have a medal, because you train five million times over a year and if you don't (all) train at the highest level then you have no chance to win the championship (as a squad)" - www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportbible.com/football/news-every-liverpool-player-to-get-a-premier-league-winners-medal-20200704.amp.htmlFerguson used to say the same thing - if your back up players aren't pushing the players in front of them in the pecking order to keep their place then the standards will drop. Given consistency is the most important thing you need to win a title, competition for places is very important I myself have been part of teams that have won league titles and the common theme is that our bench players were always pushing the starters so no one felt safe You can play down the importance of this if you want, but I learn all I can from masters of the game like Ferguson & Klopp and if that's their opinion then it's certainly something you need to consider As I said I believe Neco deserves it, but if you wish to disagree with the Premier League medal sitting in his cabinet as we speak you're more than welcome to argue against it - I for one think it's a great achievement for someone at his age  |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 3, 2020 19:39:24 GMT
Neco:
"I had interest off England but my intentions were with Wales. I'm Welsh, my family's Welsh, my friends are all Welsh. England were trying to snap at me but I weren't having none of it."
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Post by manulike on Sept 3, 2020 20:58:52 GMT
Played really well. Impressed with him.
Could have scored Moore's goal and almost scored in the dying minutes.
Seems to really have a great sense of positioning.
Well done!
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Post by pendragon on Sept 3, 2020 20:59:28 GMT
Neco: "I had interest off England but my intentions were with Wales. I'm Welsh, my family's Welsh, my friends are all Welsh. England were trying to snap at me but I weren't having none of it." Well, that ship has well and truly sailed now ๐ |
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Post by dai on Sept 3, 2020 22:14:43 GMT
Where was he playing tonight? Right wing?
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