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Post by 60sred on Apr 18, 2023 15:24:07 GMT
Neco absolutely convinced me yesterday that he is not a defender, looked very uncomfortable in that area. Really? I thought he was pretty solid for the most part, especially as Forest's defence were given no help by their midfield I think Neco has improved during the season but still has some major issues to sort out. He needs to be stronger in the challenge , like most modern day FB/WB he is not very good at tucking in and covering the back post. I would suggest that he watches Luke Shaw i think he maybe the best in the Prem at doing this but i am willing to except i may be wrong on this as i dont watch him live every week. The main problem is Neco is to nice he is not vocal in calling out players who are not doing their job. He is far to much a pal of Brennan to dig him out for not tracking back etc this might be a reason Cooper might be playing him on the left when he has fit options and also why Page might on occasions play him on the left. It sometimes is not always good to be team mates
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 15:16:02 GMT
Goal for Neco at his former club, briefly levelled things
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 22, 2023 18:17:15 GMT
Cleared one off the line too
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Apr 26, 2023 20:12:28 GMT
Injured tonight in 59th minute. Game restarts 6 minutes later.
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 26, 2023 20:18:44 GMT
Saw a picture on Twitter, looked totally out of it. Hopefully he's alright
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Apr 26, 2023 20:53:27 GMT
Clash of heads with Brennan. Neco in a bad way but conscious is the report I have been given.
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Post by dai on Apr 26, 2023 21:16:58 GMT
Jesus, the picture I've seen on Twitter looks bad. Lots of blood and looks completely out of it.
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Apr 26, 2023 21:19:57 GMT
Forest message boards saying
Sounds like he swallowed his tongue.
Forest blogs saying broken jaw.
It doesn't look good either way.
Update: MotD didn't show the incident and Cooper confirmed that Neco was in hospital with a head injury.
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Post by 60sred on Apr 27, 2023 8:22:59 GMT
Jesus, the picture I've seen on Twitter looks bad. Lots of blood and looks completely out of it. i was at the match last night and it didnt look good, but im not happy with pictures being plastered on social media. Wish people would take a minute and think before posting things like that. Forest fans to blame also not sure who was covering the game live think it might have been Amazon with the kick off time. Neco is a young lad who had family and friends in the crowd and it would have been bad enough seeing it live without extra images on social media, yes report the incident but in cases like this a little more respect should be shown. I am not a fan of the BBC but if they didnt show the images fair play to them in this instance .
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Post by rangers15 on Apr 27, 2023 8:35:38 GMT
wishing neco a speedy recovery... lot of talk about suspected broken jaw. if so, he'll be out for a long time unfortunately.
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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2023 12:48:14 GMT
Looks like his season is over. A shame after a real good run where he'd started the last 6 (and completed the 90 each game before last night) and was playing really well too. I think he's shown he can cut it at prem level, but it's just a shame to see his season come to an end when he was building up a head of steam. Still, 20 starts and 12 sub appearances in his first proper season in the prem isn't too shabby!
No idea how long a fractured jaw takes to recover from in footballing terms, although a quick google search suggests it heals for most people after 4-8 weeks. Touch and go for making our next games then which are in 7 weeks.
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Post by 60sred on Apr 27, 2023 13:49:09 GMT
Latest news is not looking good for the lad seems to be undergoing surgery today which possibly indicates either wires or plates being put in. It might mean he misses your entire qualifiers as can take between 3 & 6 months to heal. I am gutted for the lad as you say his last performances have been so much better. Steve Cooper discussed Neco in more detail with the local press after the match. He stated Neco was on a learning curve and was taken out of the side due to him having to improve aspects of his game the coaching staff have been having lots of one to one discussions with him and Cooper said he has noticed the improvements and that was why he was back in the side as a regular.
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Post by rushy on Apr 27, 2023 14:08:42 GMT
Depends on how bad the break is, but it's also the psychological impact on a player who suffers a serious facial injury in having the confidence to challenge for headers again. What I saw of the incident was Brennan trying to do an overhead kick but unfortunately kicked Neco, who was trying a diving header to score, fully in the face, it looked nasty and has proved to be so. Wish him well and probably will need a lot of recuperation time, but hopefully he comes back fully fit next season.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 27, 2023 14:27:36 GMT
I'd be amazed if he plays in the Armenia and Turkey fixtures. Latvia away is perhaps more realistic.
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Post by surge on Apr 27, 2023 17:18:41 GMT
I haven't watched it and I don't want to reading some of the comments.
We're not in the medical room/manager's room but I hope focus is on looking after him fully now. Give him time out of the spotlight to do what is needed, while obviously still thinking about him and wishing him the best.
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Post by manulike on Apr 27, 2023 19:21:53 GMT
Get well soon Neco. You will be missed!
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 27, 2023 21:28:20 GMT
Gutted for him sounds a nasty one
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Post by quetzal on Apr 27, 2023 21:43:51 GMT
He just posted on Twitter. Broken jaw. He’ll be back!
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Post by dai on Apr 27, 2023 22:11:49 GMT
Ditches us for the last international break then goes on to kick a fellow Welsh team mate in the chops. Cheers Brennan!
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 27, 2023 22:13:50 GMT
Ditches us for the last international break then goes on to kick a fellow Welsh team mate in the chops. Cheers Brennan! Tiresome drivel.
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Post by dai on Apr 27, 2023 22:32:27 GMT
Ditches us for the last international break then goes on to kick a fellow Welsh team mate in the chops. Cheers Brennan! Tiresome drivel. Calm down, it was a joke.
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Post by iot on May 25, 2023 8:50:02 GMT
I'm not expecting any favours from Cooper, all I ask is that the issue is dealt with much more professionally and with greater clarity on all sides - I won't hold my breath! As long as there's transparency on the extent of the injury, recovery timescale etc. then no one can complain. It's quite concerning that there doesn't seem to have been any communication between the Welsh and Forest camps a month on from the incident.
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Post by fiveattheback on May 25, 2023 9:00:13 GMT
Interesting as well that Page made the point to praise Bournemouth for how they've handled Brooks in the same interview. A pointed dig?
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 25, 2023 11:53:04 GMT
It was clearly a terrible injury, but it does sound like Forest have just not bothered to assess how long his recovery is because they know it will be after the end of their season and before the beginning of next season
It's quite amateurish of them if this is the case, to not even consider the fact our games are two weeks after the season and that we need to know if he'll be available to us. It's starting to make them look quite incompetent
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Post by iot on May 25, 2023 12:14:03 GMT
It was clearly a terrible injury, but it does sound like Forest have just not bothered to assess how long his recovery is because they know it will be after the end of their season and before the beginning of next season It's quite amateurish of them if this is the case, to not even consider the fact our games are two weeks after the season and that we need to know if he'll be available to us. It's starting to make them look quite incompetent Probably nothing to do with amateurism or incompetence on their part - more to do with complete apathy about the implications on us I'd imagine, which is very disappointing considering they have a Welsh manager. I imagine they've gone through all the processes they usually would, and there will be a recovery plan within that, but they haven't bothered communicating with our staff. Perhaps more concerningly, our staff haven't been more proactive in asking for the info despite being 4-5 weeks down the road.
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Post by rushy on May 25, 2023 14:56:52 GMT
From information I've read they haven't specified the extent of the injury to say if it's a hairline or compound fracture of the jaw, as one is clearly more serious than the other which also dictates the amount of recovery time, and yet the comments from Cooper are telling us nothing. I'd expect Page to be in contact with Neco and know more about the situation if Neco can talk ok, but whatever, Neco will have lost fitness and weight due to not eating solids, which in turn effects recovery to full fitness, and then he has to learn to head the ball again...
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Post by 60sred on May 25, 2023 15:54:18 GMT
From information I've read they haven't specified the extent of the injury to say if it's a hairline or compound fracture of the jaw, as one is clearly more serious than the other which also dictates the amount of recovery time, and yet the comments from Cooper are telling us nothing. I'd expect Page to be in contact with Neco and know more about the situation if Neco can talk ok, but whatever, Neco will have lost fitness and weight due to not eating solids, which in turn effects recovery to full fitness, and then he has to learn to head the ball again... Forest have stated Neco is out for the season , after Pages rant over Brennan they are right to keep quiet . If you have nothing good to say just dont say anything. As you rightly say Page will have Necos number . If they decide he wants to play and they pick him and things go wrong liability will be on the player and the FAW. Many on here were saying why didnt Brennan speak up last time lets see what Neco does ?
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Post by jimexotic on May 25, 2023 18:10:57 GMT
From information I've read they haven't specified the extent of the injury to say if it's a hairline or compound fracture of the jaw, as one is clearly more serious than the other which also dictates the amount of recovery time, and yet the comments from Cooper are telling us nothing. I'd expect Page to be in contact with Neco and know more about the situation if Neco can talk ok, but whatever, Neco will have lost fitness and weight due to not eating solids, which in turn effects recovery to full fitness, and then he has to learn to head the ball again... Forest have stated Neco is out for the season , after Pages rant over Brennan they are right to keep quiet . If you have nothing good to say just dont say anything. As you rightly say Page will have Necos number . If they decide he wants to play and they pick him and things go wrong liability will be on the player and the FAW. Many on here were saying why didnt Brennan speak up last time lets see what Neco does ? There's a bit of difference here, Neco has had his jaw broken and hasn't been playing, Brennan was playing 90 minutes either side of the Wales fixtures, he pulled up with an injury, then played 90 minutes less than a week later and looked fine, it will never make any sense that he wasn't in the squad but thankfully we did alright without him and everyone can move on from it.
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Post by morg on May 25, 2023 18:53:27 GMT
What I don't understand is why we're bemoaning this lack of information via the media instead of talking to Forest! It's just going to make the situation worse.
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Post by rushy on May 25, 2023 19:16:24 GMT
There is obviously an issue between Page and Cooper which is one we don't need and probably one Page should sort out asap, but I don't see why Cooper couldn't have given more info to the media when asked the relevant questions surrounding the injury.
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