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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 17, 2022 23:27:53 GMT
The more I think about the Kieffer Moore injury I think he would be a great against Austria and Ukraine but I’m not sure Scotland. I get the feeling the Scots wouldn’t fear that kind of player. A championship player who happens to be very tall. I think the Scots would have had him worked out. Just a feeling. I might be wrong. I could see him being a handful for Austria and Ukraine though. I'm on the other side of the coin for the exact reason. The potential Scotland game could be a fiesty one, I would have wanted him in as someone who can handle himself physically. Austria/Ukraine cross me as more technical teams who will know the tricks of the trade to win free kicks off physical players. I agree. I seem to remember against some of these tricky sides like Croatia, Kieffer has struggled more, and looked more likely to accumulate yellows than goals |
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Post by iot on Feb 18, 2022 0:08:40 GMT
I'm on the other side of the coin for the exact reason. The potential Scotland game could be a fiesty one, I would have wanted him in as someone who can handle himself physically. Austria/Ukraine cross me as more technical teams who will know the tricks of the trade to win free kicks off physical players. I agree. I seem to remember against some of these tricky sides like Croatia, Kieffer has struggled more, and looked more likely to accumulate yellows than goals I don't think that's correct, his first competitive starts for us was against Slovakia and Croatia and he was incredible in both. He absolutely bullied Skriniar and Lovren. It was actually the other way around, Lovren ended up trying to manhandle Moore and constantly got penalized himself, which was a great avenue for us to release some pressure. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 18, 2022 12:27:04 GMT
I agree. I seem to remember against some of these tricky sides like Croatia, Kieffer has struggled more, and looked more likely to accumulate yellows than goals I don't think that's correct, his first competitive starts for us was against Slovakia and Croatia and he was incredible in both. He absolutely bullied Skriniar and Lovren. It was actually the other way around, Lovren ended up trying to manhandle Moore and constantly got penalized himself, which was a great avenue for us to release some pressure. Yes you are right, maybe I'm mixing it up with other times. I definitely felt at the tournament Kieffer was penalised harshly, and there have definitely been games where his effectiveness has waned against sides that play up in order to get him penalised |
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 18, 2022 13:03:00 GMT
I agree. I seem to remember against some of these tricky sides like Croatia, Kieffer has struggled more, and looked more likely to accumulate yellows than goals I don't think that's correct, his first competitive starts for us was against Slovakia and Croatia and he was incredible in both. He absolutely bullied Skriniar and Lovren. It was actually the other way around, Lovren ended up trying to manhandle Moore and constantly got penalized himself, which was a great avenue for us to release some pressure. I don't think Kieffer even tries to be that physical player mixing it up with people. I think he just happens to be tall and well physically built and his arms happen to be borderline peoples faces as standard. If he comes up against players who care more about their masculinity than playing the victim it plays right into his strengths. I think that could be Scotland. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Feb 18, 2022 13:26:21 GMT
played 3 mins for Bournemouth and broke his foot. Confirmed he Will be out for min of 2 months. Shocking season for KM all round. Definitely not the same player he was last season ( that Wolves bid seems to have changed his attitude completely) Changed his attitude in what way? I doubt he broke his foot on purpose. Maybe he just didn't want to be at Cardiff but was raring to go at Bournemouth. Apart from the vaccines he's never let Wales down. Nobody mentioned anything about letting Wales down………the fact is this season there has been numerous reports about his attitude not being great ( since the Wolves bid). Obviously there could be a number of reasons for that,but having watched him in the games he’s played in then it definitely looked like his heart was somewhere else. 20 goals last season and 2 goals this season kinda also back that up. |
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Post by iot on Feb 18, 2022 13:44:58 GMT
Changed his attitude in what way? I doubt he broke his foot on purpose. Maybe he just didn't want to be at Cardiff but was raring to go at Bournemouth. Apart from the vaccines he's never let Wales down. Nobody mentioned anything about letting Wales down………the fact is this season there has been numerous reports about his attitude not being great ( since the Wolves bid). Obviously there could be a number of reasons for that,but having watched him in the games he’s played in then it definitely looked like his heart was somewhere else. 20 goals last season and 2 goals this season kinda also back that up. Pretty sure he scored 5 goals this season, and he missed massive chunks of it. I was there when he scored two headers to win the game at the end (against Milwall I think) and you certainly can't say he didn't enjoy it! Morison has suggested that Moore's performances may have been affected by the transfer speculation, but I'm not sure how much I trust Morison either and he had his own reasons for saying that + Moore has come out with a couple of statements to contradict him. So I think the truth is we'll never know for sure if some of his sub-par performances have been down to a poor attitude, a poor team, injuries and the effect of covid, or a combination of all those things. |
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Post by morg on Mar 25, 2022 15:26:31 GMT
Should be available by June?
Does he start?
Am inclined to say yes but not as clear cut as it was?
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Post by underwood on Mar 25, 2022 19:16:40 GMT
Should be available by June? Does he start? Am inclined to say yes but not as clear cut as it was? He will get more leeway in a game against the Scots. Against Ukraine, with an over-sympathetic referee he’ll get nothing other than a card of some colour. |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2022 19:55:59 GMT
Should be available by June? Does he start? Am inclined to say yes but not as clear cut as it was? He will get more leeway in a game against the Scots. Against Ukraine, with an over-sympathetic referee he’ll get nothing other than a card of some colour. This 100 times, it will be Denmark, Estonia and Belgium all over again, getting booked for getting fouled or just for being taller and stronger than his opponent. |
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Post by morg on Mar 25, 2022 20:23:06 GMT
Interesting one. Him not playing seemed unthinkable a while back but given that we're best with 3 at the back, if you play Kieffer and 2 holding mids you effectively don't get Dan James (given also that Bale and Ramsey auto picks). Harry Wilson may also be making a case at the expense of 2nd holding mid.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 26, 2022 0:20:56 GMT
Should be available by June? Does he start? Am inclined to say yes but not as clear cut as it was? For me I think last night was our strongest lineup for when we play a team at a similar level to us. Kieffer is great to have in the box when we play a minnow that sit deep, or against a team that are good at pressing. But last night was our best lineup for that game, and I think the final will be a similar type of game For me he'll be a good impact sub |
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Post by quetzal on Apr 18, 2022 22:52:18 GMT
He got to be back soon? It’s been over 9 weeks.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 19, 2022 21:38:07 GMT
He got to be back soon? It’s been over 9 weeks. Might be a Premier League footballer the next time he plays. He's definitely going to be an impact player next season, and not a regular starter. Will be interesting to see how he does for us moving forwards, I can definitely see him being more of a plan B. Brennan and a few others may well be taking over |
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Post by texan on Apr 26, 2022 9:52:28 GMT
Moore been training on grass the past couple weeks and is now back training with the main squad. Tonight v Swansea will probably come too soon, but should be on the bench for either Blackburn on Sat or Forest a week tonight. Parker says they'll take it easy with him however and bring him back slowly as they're aware of his desire to be fit for the playoff.
...but basically he's fit again!
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Post by rangers15 on Apr 26, 2022 10:10:49 GMT
that's awesome news!
the next question will be... do we start him?
if everyone is fit i think i'd have him on the bench... that is one hell of an impact player to bring on!
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 26, 2022 10:38:18 GMT
I think I'd start him in Poland, and have him there as an option off the bench for the final.
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Post by quetzal on Apr 26, 2022 14:28:04 GMT
Great news. Keeps Scots or Ukraine on their toes. I would start with same line up that started against Austria.
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 26, 2022 15:29:32 GMT
I love Kieffer but I'm starting to think that it's over for him, he made the wrong move to the wrong club and then got an unlucky injury, it has career tailing off written all over it.
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Post by gimli on Apr 26, 2022 16:14:03 GMT
I love Kieffer but I'm starting to think that it's over for him, he made the wrong move to the wrong club and then got an unlucky injury, it has career tailing off written all over it. It sounds extreme at first glance, but I agree with you. If Bournemouth get promoted, I doubt he'll get much playing time for them at all next season. He was signed as a back up to Solanke anyway so his appearances were always going to be limited even if he was fit, but now that he hasn't even played for them and they look like getting promoted anyway, he'll probably end up 3rd choice at best next season as I imagine they won't want to be relying on a 30 year old who's made one sub appearance for them and never played at the top level before to back up their star striker - they'll use their new PL money to sign a proven striker to compete with Solanke I'm sure. The best case scenario for him career-wise now would be for Bournemouth to miss out on promotion this year, forcing them to sell Solanke and hopefully leaving Kieffer as their starting number 9 in the Championship next season. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 26, 2022 17:51:10 GMT
He’s on the bench tonight
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 26, 2022 19:55:29 GMT
Will become a backup/impact option for us when fit moving forward anyway. Bale and DJ have to start, and when Bale's time is up I can see Brennan coming in for him immediately
There will be situations and scenarios for Moore of course. The Nations League he will be really handy
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 26, 2022 20:17:48 GMT
B'mouth will choke in the automatic bid for promotion, watch Forest big time. Currently losing by three to Swansea
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 26, 2022 20:24:28 GMT
Scores. He’s back
Edit: scores again to level the game!
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 26, 2022 20:37:46 GMT
Well well. Scores his second currently 3-3😟
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Post by insertname on Apr 26, 2022 21:07:20 GMT
I love Kieffer but I'm starting to think that it's over for him, he made the wrong move to the wrong club and then got an unlucky injury, it has career tailing off written all over it. Can you read the last rites for Wales World Cup campaign too? 😊 |
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Post by insertname on Apr 26, 2022 21:13:20 GMT
Will become a backup/impact option for us when fit moving forward anyway. Bale and DJ have to start, and when Bale's time is up I can see Brennan coming in for him immediately There will be situations and scenarios for Moore of course. The Nations League he will be really handy I think tonight was his career in microcosm. Bournemouth fans were slagging him off as a signing but you can never write the bloke off. He always pops up and finds the net. He’ll never be a top prem player but it wouldn’t surprise me if he confounds everyone again by doing enough to be a lower table player for a few years whilst still proving to be a vital player for Wales. It’s circumspect that people advocate dropping him but where are the goals going to come from otherwise? Without Bale and Moore we are relying on the odd goal here and there from players who don’t really know where the net is in a Wales shirt, ordinarily. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 26, 2022 21:17:01 GMT
I love Kieffer but I'm starting to think that it's over for him, he made the wrong move to the wrong club and then got an unlucky injury, it has career tailing off written all over it. What was I on about? Kieffer Moore Ballon D'or!!!! |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 26, 2022 21:19:20 GMT
Every chance that's him banned for the rest of the league season now. Fully swung elbow to Downes head, not spotted by the referee on the night so could be the subject of a retrospective ban.
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Post by insertname on Apr 26, 2022 21:23:23 GMT
Every chance that's him banned for the rest of the league season now. Fully swung elbow to Downes head, not spotted by the referee on the night so could be the subject of a retrospective ban. Was it definitely international? You know what he’s like with his elbows. Shame to have such a short little cameo if he is banned but keeps him injury free I suppose. |
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Post by manulike on Apr 26, 2022 22:07:38 GMT
Ummm.
Our Brennan might be having words with him next week ;-)
Welcome back big man!
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