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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 26, 2022 22:42:46 GMT
Every chance that's him banned for the rest of the league season now. Fully swung elbow to Downes head, not spotted by the referee on the night so could be the subject of a retrospective ban. Was it definitely international? You know what heโs like with his elbows. Shame to have such a short little cameo if he is banned but keeps him injury free I suppose.
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Post by dlwilliams on Apr 26, 2022 22:49:07 GMT
Every chance that's him banned for the rest of the league season now. Fully swung elbow to Downes head, not spotted by the referee on the night so could be the subject of a retrospective ban. Are retrospective bans a thing? I know in rugby they 'cite' people for stuff that was missed during the game.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 26, 2022 22:59:19 GMT
Every chance that's him banned for the rest of the league season now. Fully swung elbow to Downes head, not spotted by the referee on the night so could be the subject of a retrospective ban. Are retrospective bans a thing? I know in rugby they 'cite' people for stuff that was missed during the game. Yes, they are, but only for things that weren't seen by the officials. Not that common in the Championship, but Craig Forysth was given a 3 match ban for Derby retrospectively earlier this season.
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 26, 2022 23:16:24 GMT
I'm a Swans fan and a Moore fan, but he is a liability and a thug. Should definitely have had a red for the deliberate elbow, and also many other dubious challenges.
Would never get away with it with var.
He has been carded enough times for Wales and could leave us being down to 10.
Impact sub for me when needed. His elbow tonight was both disgusting and indefensible.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 27, 2022 5:45:56 GMT
I wouldn't go that far as a fellow Swans fan, but I can see why that elbow would wind people up the wrong way.
It was very nasty, a clear red in rugby. If he does that in an international, and a game in which there's VAR, he's walking.
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2022 9:52:07 GMT
I'm a Swans fan and a Moore fan, but he is a liability and a thug. Should definitely have had a red for the deliberate elbow, and also many other dubious challenges. Would never get away with it with var. He has been carded enough times for Wales and could leave us being down to 10. Impact sub for me when needed. His elbow tonight was both disgusting and indefensible. He's not looking where the player is though, at least not in that clip. It is a very forceful swing of the arm, can't deny that but usually there is at least some attempt to check the position of the player and that signals the intent that leads to a red.
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Post by dai on Apr 27, 2022 10:05:29 GMT
Any footage of the elbow please?
Edit, just seen the tweet above. Thuggish move, that's a red card and a citing in rugby. He'd be a fool and an idiot to do something like that at international level. Probably best he doesn't start the playoff final if that's his current mentality.
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2022 10:59:40 GMT
Any footage of the elbow please? Edit, just seen the tweet above. Thuggish move, that's a red card and a citing in rugby. He'd be a fool and an idiot to do something like that at international level. Probably best he doesn't start the playoff final if that's his current mentality. Youโre forgetting the ROI match, that wouldnโt even get a booking in that game. Itโs an aspect that a lot of people wonโt want to acknowledge but the likelihood is that if we play Scotland the ref will let a lot of stuff pass and a player like Moore will be handy to give the Scots something to think about. If the ref wants a โbattle of Britainโ then both sides will end up being forced to find where the refโs limits are. Our major mistake last time was not adapting to those conditions
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Post by hal on Apr 27, 2022 12:06:23 GMT
I'm a Swans fan and a Moore fan, but he is a liability and a thug. Should definitely have had a red for the deliberate elbow, and also many other dubious challenges. Would never get away with it with var. He has been carded enough times for Wales and could leave us being down to 10. Impact sub for me when needed. His elbow tonight was both disgusting and indefensible. Brilliant ๐๐ thug ๐๐๐๐ Someoneโs a little bitter
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 27, 2022 13:44:36 GMT
My mate who has at the game last night, said Bmth tactics were to kick the you know what out of Cabango, and for Bmth to run at a less than impressive defence once Cabango left the pitch๐
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 27, 2022 17:55:56 GMT
I'm a Swans fan and a Moore fan, but he is a liability and a thug. Should definitely have had a red for the deliberate elbow, and also many other dubious challenges. Would never get away with it with var. He has been carded enough times for Wales and could leave us being down to 10. Impact sub for me when needed. His elbow tonight was both disgusting and indefensible. Brilliant ๐๐ thug ๐๐๐๐ Someoneโs a little bitter Another Cardiff fan who thinks it's funny, social media has been full of them today. The only thing really they have to hang onto this season. If you showed some respect and read my whole post as others have you will notice I said I liked Moore but he has been booked for elbowing in virtually every game for Wales. He will end up getting sent off and cost us.
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2022 18:58:53 GMT
Brilliant ๐๐ thug ๐๐๐๐ Someoneโs a little bitter Another Cardiff fan who thinks it's funny, social media has been full of them today. The only thingย really they have to hang onto this season. If you showed some respect and read my whole post as others have you will notice I said I liked Moore but he has been booked for elbowing in virtually every game for Wales. He will end up getting sent off and cost us.ย But that says more about referees than it does about him. Some of the bookings heโs received have been simply for having arms and using them as leverage when he jumps. Some refs seem to expect players to jump with their arms at their sides, itโs ridiculous
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Post by 60sred on Apr 28, 2022 7:17:20 GMT
Not seen the alleged incident but interesting decision to be made by EFL, all bournmouth last three games are against teams with something possibly to play for Blackburn, Forest and Millwall. I can't see him getting a retrospective ban because the way football is managed these days if ban cost Bournmouth a place in Prem could see lawyers being involved. We suffered a retrospective ban from 1st game of the season when Bong was caught on camera but not be ref. The Forest fans were delighted as he has been rubbish for us.
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Post by dai on Apr 28, 2022 8:18:12 GMT
Any footage of the elbow please? Edit, just seen the tweet above. Thuggish move, that's a red card and a citing in rugby. He'd be a fool and an idiot to do something like that at international level. Probably best he doesn't start the playoff final if that's his current mentality. Youโre forgetting the ROI match, that wouldnโt even get a booking in that game. Itโs an aspect that a lot of people wonโt want to acknowledge but the likelihood is that if we play Scotland the ref will let a lot of stuff pass and a player like Moore will be handy to give the Scots something to think about. If the ref wants a โbattle of Britainโ then both sides will end up being forced to find where the refโs limits are. Our major mistake last time was not adapting to those conditions That's fair enough. But Moore often gets penalised for swinging arms and elbows (albeit too softly at times), and is now a target for refs. With VAR at international level as well, he'd be off doing something like that in a Welsh shirt.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 28, 2022 8:32:21 GMT
Not seen the alleged incident but interesting decision to be made by EFL, all bournmouth last three games are against teams with something possibly to play for Blackburn, Forest and Millwall. I can't see him getting a retrospective ban because the way football is managed these days if ban cost Bournmouth a place in Prem could see lawyers being involved. We suffered a retrospective ban from 1st game of the season when Bong was caught on camera but not be ref. The Forest fans were delighted as he has been rubbish for us. There's no way lawyers are getting involved if he gets retrospectively banned, it's clear cut by the laws of the game and they haven't got a leg to stand on. You can't stop applying the laws of the game because a side is in a promotion battle.
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Post by iot on Apr 28, 2022 8:48:58 GMT
It was definitely a red, but there's no reason to believe there was malice involved. Strikers often swing out their arms to keep the defender at arm's length (literally) and to open up their chest. It was probably one of them + a little over-enthusiasm from him given they were 3-0 down, he'd come on to make an impact, he's been out for 10 weeks and has a lot to prove as comments before the game on this thread alluded to. It's his final chance to play in the prem, so he was probably just pumped up and over-enthusiastic.
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Post by 60sred on Apr 28, 2022 9:03:08 GMT
The only problem with retrospective bans is that it never benefits the side who the offence was against. If the ref didnt see it or the other officials just get on with the game. Its like penalties some you get and some you dont just hope that they even themselves out.
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Post by hal on Apr 30, 2022 16:25:43 GMT
Brilliant ๐๐ thug ๐๐๐๐ Someoneโs a little bitter Another Cardiff fan who thinks it's funny, social media has been full of them today. The only thingย really they have to hang onto this season. If you showed some respect and read my whole post as others have you will notice I said I liked Moore but he has been booked for elbowing in virtually every game for Wales. He will end up getting sent off and cost us.ย ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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Post by CrackityJones on May 3, 2022 19:43:59 GMT
The big man does it again for Bournemouth
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Post by insertname on May 3, 2022 19:46:22 GMT
Thought he was banned?
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Post by insertname on May 3, 2022 20:00:28 GMT
Radio 5 just called him the unlikely hero- considering the big goals heโs scored for Wales the bloke doesnโt get the credit he deserves. Hugely under rated imo. The media seem to still see him as the bloke who played for Truro, like he was only playing non-league last week.
It will be a tough ask but aims love to see him make a dent in the prem. given how he has scored goals for Wales against the odds I wouldnโt bet against him.
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Post by iot on May 3, 2022 20:03:14 GMT
That's 3 goals in about 60mins of football for Bournemouth now. Not a bad return that
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Post by iot on May 3, 2022 20:07:06 GMT
I imagine this is how he will be used next season. Their go-to sub with half an hour to go if they're trailing by a goal or two.
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Post by manulike on May 3, 2022 20:14:41 GMT
Congratulations to the big man. Wearing my Welsh hat now ... the best thing for us would have been Kieffer playing another three play off games. The worst thing is Brennan playing three extra games ;-(
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Post by underwood on May 3, 2022 20:21:03 GMT
Congratulations Bournemouth, the best outcome for Welsh football with 3 players making it up. We should have a net gain of Premier League players next season, particularly if Sheff Utd (2) get up through the Play Offs & Leeds (2) stay up. I am expecting Brennan Johnson to be at a Premier League club regardless & hopefully Neco can gat a permanent move to a top flight club. All that could leave Connor Roberts as the unlucky loser, although if it is to be Everton who go down we will have a full compliment of all those that could be there actually being there.
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Post by quetzal on May 3, 2022 20:22:16 GMT
Soft goal from Forest to give away. Kieffer Moore off the bench for us
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Post by insertname on May 3, 2022 20:30:44 GMT
Congratulations Bournemouth, the best outcome for Welsh football with 3 players making it up. We should have a net gain of Premier League players next season, particularly if Sheff Utd (2) get up through the Play Offs & Leeds (2) stay up. I am expecting Brennan Johnson to be at a Premier League club regardless & hopefully Neco can gat a permanent move to a top flight club. All that could leave Connor Roberts as the unlucky loser, although if it is to be Everton who go down we will have a full compliment of all those that could be there actually being there. It wonโt be Burnley, probably Leeds because itโs hard to see where their goals will come from, especially with them playing James as a lone striker when he is anything but.
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Post by jimexotic on May 3, 2022 20:43:49 GMT
All those Bournemouth fans who slated Moore, he's scored the most vital goal of the season for them. Gutted for Forest, gutted for Cooper, just gutted in general as I don't like Bournemouth and I don't really see it as that good for Wales as our players are on the bench for them in the Championship so who knows how far down the pecking order they'll be after a summer of spending.
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Post by hooky on May 3, 2022 20:45:40 GMT
The big man delivers
Everyone needs to wake up - the big man has quality and composure. To score when it matters - you simply can't deliver when it matters unless you have both. He has never let us down - I could probably only say the same thing (from a consistency perspective) about Dan James!
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Post by jimexotic on May 3, 2022 20:47:13 GMT
The big man delivers Everyone needs to wake up - the big man has quality and composure. To score when it matters - you simply can't deliver when it matters unless you have both. He has never let us down - I could probably only say the same thing (from a consistency perspective) about Dan James! Those two as a pair are fantastic for us, James works so well with Kieffer
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