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Post by manulike on Jan 11, 2020 14:29:45 GMT
No Kieffer on the team sheet today, despite having trained and passed fit during the week. Will ha be at the CCS tomorrow, I wonder ;-)
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Post by manulike on Jan 16, 2020 20:06:02 GMT
BREAKING NEWS - FRESH FROM UEFA ...
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Post by barry on Jan 18, 2020 15:01:21 GMT
Not in the squad today.
Get well soon.
Worryingly large number of Welsh players injured. Moore, Rodon, Davies, Brookes.
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Post by barry on Jan 18, 2020 16:30:59 GMT
Sorry, he's on the bench and just come on.
Cabango v Moore.
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Post by barneycat1 on Jan 19, 2020 5:32:53 GMT
Cabango had Moore in his pocket. The boy will be the next one off the Swansea production line to play for Wales.
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Post by barry on Jan 19, 2020 7:26:42 GMT
He looked very rusty.
Laid one ball off into touch under no pressure.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 28, 2020 21:11:03 GMT
Back from injury and scores
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Post by manulike on Jan 28, 2020 21:16:27 GMT
Back from injury and scores Brilliant swivel in the box, taking out two defenders and sending the goalie the wrong way. Not only a big lump of a man ...
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Post by manulike on Jan 28, 2020 21:52:57 GMT
Seen most of the first half and some of the second as well.
Wigan were unlucky to go behind and deserved the win, at the end.
Both Kieffer and Lee were good at pinging in balls into the area, but mostly without a real target / purpose.
Lee faded in the second half.
Don't let anyone tell you that Kieffer is just a target man. He works tirelessly for the team and creates plenty of crosses and through-ball opportunities, for his teammates.
In the 89', Kieffer was in his own area, defending heavy pressure, he won the ball and galloped about 80 yards, in a pace that would have impressed Dan James, in the move that brought about the winning goal, a minute later.
Impressive
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Post by quetzal on Jan 30, 2020 2:04:20 GMT
Seen most of the first half and some of the second as well. Wigan were unlucky to go behind and deserved the win, at the end. Both Kieffer and Lee were good at pinging in balls into the area, but mostly without a real target / purpose. Lee faded in the second half. Don't let anyone tell you that Kieffer is just a target man. He works tirelessly for the team and creates plenty of crosses and through-ball opportunities, for his teammates. In the 89', Kieffer was in his own area, defending heavy pressure, he won the ball and galloped about 80 yards, in a pace that would have impressed Dan James, in the move that brought about the winning goal, a minute later. Impressive Don’t get to see a lot of Wigan in Guatemala. I don’t think Kieffer is a definite starter for first game in Baku. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 30, 2020 6:35:14 GMT
Seen most of the first half and some of the second as well. Wigan were unlucky to go behind and deserved the win, at the end. Both Kieffer and Lee were good at pinging in balls into the area, but mostly without a real target / purpose. Lee faded in the second half. Don't let anyone tell you that Kieffer is just a target man. He works tirelessly for the team and creates plenty of crosses and through-ball opportunities, for his teammates. In the 89', Kieffer was in his own area, defending heavy pressure, he won the ball and galloped about 80 yards, in a pace that would have impressed Dan James, in the move that brought about the winning goal, a minute later. Impressive Don’t get to see a lot of Wigan in Guatemala. I don’t think Kieffer is a definite starter for first game in Baku. So you don’t think the player who turned around our campaign will start in Baku because you don’t see him play club football? On what reason have you come to this conclusion Giggs has been after him for a year, he has exceeded expectations.... |
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Post by alarch on Jan 30, 2020 10:15:13 GMT
Moore may well start out in Baku, but it's by no means a given. He's excelled against weak countries, or teams who had been weakened by injuries to their centre backs (a big factor in the Slovakia game). Will he fare as well against stronger sides? Because if he isn't winning a good percentage of his aerial battles then he will probably be less effective than Vokes. I suspect that Giggs will still go with Moore, but I have a concern that he may be found out playing at tournament level.
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Post by richierich333 on Jan 30, 2020 11:48:57 GMT
Seen most of the first half and some of the second as well. Wigan were unlucky to go behind and deserved the win, at the end. Both Kieffer and Lee were good at pinging in balls into the area, but mostly without a real target / purpose. Lee faded in the second half. Don't let anyone tell you that Kieffer is just a target man. He works tirelessly for the team and creates plenty of crosses and through-ball opportunities, for his teammates. In the 89', Kieffer was in his own area, defending heavy pressure, he won the ball and galloped about 80 yards, in a pace that would have impressed Dan James, in the move that brought about the winning goal, a minute later. Impressive Don’t get to see a lot of Wigan in Guatemala. I don’t think Kieffer is a definite starter for first game in Baku. The options are Moore, Vokes, Bale or play without a 9 a la Spain...basically he starts |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Jan 30, 2020 15:31:22 GMT
We wouldn't be playing in Baku but for his presence in the latter part of the qualifying campaign. Technique wise he may be a bit limited, but his non stop effort keeps defenders busy and his goals have been vital (he probably should have scored more though).
We were very poor prior to his selection.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 30, 2020 16:34:34 GMT
Moore may well start out in Baku, but it's by no means a given. He's excelled against weak countries, or teams who had been weakened by injuries to their centre backs (a big factor in the Slovakia game). Will he fare as well against stronger sides? Because if he isn't winning a good percentage of his aerial battles then he will probably be less effective than Vokes. I suspect that Giggs will still go with Moore, but I have a concern that he may be found out playing at tournament level. He did well against Skriniar who is a top CB, and he did well enough against Vida and Lovren. Obviously he will struggle more against the likes of Bonucci and Chiellini. But as long as he is occupying them, Bale and co. will have a better platform to do their stuff. |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jan 30, 2020 16:38:37 GMT
100% starts. No debate
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Post by cadno on Jan 30, 2020 18:29:51 GMT
Moore may well start out in Baku, but it's by no means a given. He's excelled against weak countries, or teams who had been weakened by injuries to their centre backs (a big factor in the Slovakia game). Will he fare as well against stronger sides? Because if he isn't winning a good percentage of his aerial battles then he will probably be less effective than Vokes. I suspect that Giggs will still go with Moore, but I have a concern that he may be found out playing at tournament level. I'm more worried about us being poor defensively when we face top opposition. I worry opposition like Italy / Germany / France could easily put 3 or 4 past us. I hope I'm wrong, and that we're harder to beat than what I anticipate. The upcoming friendlies will be interesting. I don't think scoring goals will be a problem for us, if Bale, Ramsey, James, Wilson etc are available. And especially if we have David Brooks. But a lot relies on us being calm, organised, and have a lot of leadership and cojones out on the pitch. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 30, 2020 19:26:14 GMT
Moore may well start out in Baku, but it's by no means a given. He's excelled against weak countries, or teams who had been weakened by injuries to their centre backs (a big factor in the Slovakia game). Will he fare as well against stronger sides? Because if he isn't winning a good percentage of his aerial battles then he will probably be less effective than Vokes. I suspect that Giggs will still go with Moore, but I have a concern that he may be found out playing at tournament level. I'm more worried about us being poor defensively when we face top opposition. I worry opposition like Italy / Germany / France could easily put 3 or 4 past us. I hope I'm wrong, and that we're harder to beat than what I anticipate. The upcoming friendlies will be interesting. I don't think scoring goals will be a problem for us, if Bale, Ramsey, James, Wilson etc are available. And especially if we have David Brooks. But a lot relies on us being calm, organised, and have a lot of leadership and cojones out on the pitch. I know what you mean about us defensively because we did give away cheap goals in qualifying. But some comforting stats are; we conceded the least goals in our qualifying group, we conceded less than Germany and the Netherlands (in an easier group), and had equal defensive records with England, Portugal, Switzerland and Denmark. Just think, if we cut out the silly mistakes which accounted for our goals conceded - away to Croatia x2, away to Hungary and at home to Azerbaijan - we could have had an insane defensive record! An interesting way of looking at Moore's contribution is to look at our goals for/against with and without him, which is handy given he played exactly half the games. Pre-MooreFor - 4 Against - 4 Points - 6 Post-MooreFor - 6 Against - 2 Points - 8 |
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Post by cadno on Jan 30, 2020 19:52:11 GMT
I'm more worried about us being poor defensively when we face top opposition. I worry opposition like Italy / Germany / France could easily put 3 or 4 past us. I hope I'm wrong, and that we're harder to beat than what I anticipate. The upcoming friendlies will be interesting. I don't think scoring goals will be a problem for us, if Bale, Ramsey, James, Wilson etc are available. And especially if we have David Brooks. But a lot relies on us being calm, organised, and have a lot of leadership and cojones out on the pitch. I know what you mean about us defensively because we did give away cheap goals in qualifying. But some comforting stats are; we conceded the least goals in our qualifying group, we conceded less than Germany and the Netherlands (in an easier group), and had equal defensive records with England, Portugal, Switzerland and Denmark. Just think, if we cut out the silly mistakes which accounted for our goals conceded - away to Croatia x2, away to Hungary and at home to Azerbaijan - we could have had an insane defensive record! An interesting way of looking at Moore's contribution is to look at our goals for/against with and without him, which is handy given he played exactly half the games. Pre-MooreFor - 4 Against - 4 Points - 6 Post-MooreFor - 6 Against - 2 Points - 8 That's true, but Croatia scored the most in our group (17) followed by Slovakia (13) Compare that with other teams: Belgium (40) Italy and England (37) Spain (31) France (25) Denmark and Sweden (23) I don't think Croatia are as much of attacking/goal threat as they used to be. Turkey and Switzerland scored similar amount of goals to Croatia in qualifying, so hopefully we can limit their opportunities and make the most of ours, but if we face a full strength Italy, I don't have much hope or faith in us digging deep and getting a result. I'd be more confident if we had Ash and a fully fit James Chester in the side. Again, I hope I'm made to eat humble pie! |
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Post by iot on Jan 30, 2020 21:20:30 GMT
I know what you mean about us defensively because we did give away cheap goals in qualifying. But some comforting stats are; we conceded the least goals in our qualifying group, we conceded less than Germany and the Netherlands (in an easier group), and had equal defensive records with England, Portugal, Switzerland and Denmark. Just think, if we cut out the silly mistakes which accounted for our goals conceded - away to Croatia x2, away to Hungary and at home to Azerbaijan - we could have had an insane defensive record! An interesting way of looking at Moore's contribution is to look at our goals for/against with and without him, which is handy given he played exactly half the games. Pre-MooreFor - 4 Against - 4 Points - 6 Post-MooreFor - 6 Against - 2 Points - 8 That's true, but Croatia scored the most in our group (17) followed by Slovakia (13) Compare that with other teams: Belgium (40) Italy and England (37) Spain (31) France (25) Denmark and Sweden (23) I don't think Croatia are as much of attacking/goal threat as they used to be. Turkey and Switzerland scored similar amount of goals to Croatia in qualifying, so hopefully we can limit their opportunities and make the most of ours, but if we face a full strength Italy, I don't have much hope or faith in us digging deep and getting a result. I'd be more confident if we had Ash and a fully fit James Chester in the side. Again, I hope I'm made to eat humble pie! Agree with some of your points cadno, but disagree with others. I think you're right that when we come up against a really potent attacking force I still think we're too open and will let in at least a couple. But overall, I think we should be more concerned with what we do going forward than at the back. As you mentioned in a previous post, the quality of our squad is skewed towards the forwards with bale, rambo, brooks, james, wilson etc. However, we played a combination of those in the first few games of the campaign and in the denmark double-header and despite having that incredible quality up front, our attacking play was extremely poor. Just goes to show there's little use in having individual quality in those positions if you can't tie it together into a coherent attacking plan. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 30, 2020 21:42:51 GMT
That's true, but Croatia scored the most in our group (17) followed by Slovakia (13) Compare that with other teams: Belgium (40) Italy and England (37) Spain (31) France (25) Denmark and Sweden (23) I don't think Croatia are as much of attacking/goal threat as they used to be. Turkey and Switzerland scored similar amount of goals to Croatia in qualifying, so hopefully we can limit their opportunities and make the most of ours, but if we face a full strength Italy, I don't have much hope or faith in us digging deep and getting a result. I'd be more confident if we had Ash and a fully fit James Chester in the side. Again, I hope I'm made to eat humble pie! Agree with some of your points cadno, but disagree with others. I think you're right that when we come up against a really potent attacking force I still think we're too open and will let in at least a couple. But overall, I think we should be more concerned with what we do going forward than at the back. As you mentioned in a previous post, the quality of our squad is skewed towards the forwards with bale, rambo, brooks, james, wilson etc. However, we played a combination of those in the first few games of the campaign and in the denmark double-header and despite having that incredible quality up front, our attacking play was extremely poor. Just goes to show there's little use in having individual quality in those positions if you can't tie it together into a coherent attacking plan. That's a fair point, we should be scoring more goals with the players we have, I think Giggs has touched on that before. If he and his staff can find the right balance, with a bit of luck, we could do well.(last 16 or further) Having to play in Baku then Rome makes things trickier, and right now I'm happy just to be there. A goal or anything else will be a bonus! |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 31, 2020 7:35:29 GMT
Moore may well start out in Baku, but it's by no means a given. He's excelled against weak countries, or teams who had been weakened by injuries to their centre backs (a big factor in the Slovakia game). Will he fare as well against stronger sides? Because if he isn't winning a good percentage of his aerial battles then he will probably be less effective than Vokes. I suspect that Giggs will still go with Moore, but I have a concern that he may be found out playing at tournament level. He did well against Skriniar who is a top CB, and he did well enough against Vida and Lovren. Obviously he will struggle more against the likes of Bonucci and Chiellini. But as long as he is occupying them, Bale and co. will have a better platform to do their stuff. Exactly. This is what Moore does so well. Occupies the defence so Bale etc get more space. No brainer! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 15, 2020 15:16:42 GMT
Kieffer Mawr with an early goal against Cardiff.
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Post by chislenko on Feb 15, 2020 16:16:44 GMT
Obviously likes playing at the CCS, 2 goals so far today!!
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Post by larslagerback on Feb 15, 2020 20:23:46 GMT
Kieffer Mawr with an early goal against Cardiff. Great header fair play. |
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Post by barry on Feb 26, 2020 20:29:33 GMT
Scores away to Reading.
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Post by manulike on Feb 26, 2020 20:51:44 GMT
Boy is lucky cus' our Christopher is still out injured ;-( <!----> |
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Post by cymru98 on Feb 26, 2020 21:07:52 GMT
Three goals in past three games  |
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Post by alarch on Feb 26, 2020 23:18:23 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 27, 2020 0:14:59 GMT
He’s building up to a Kanu turn in the quarters isnee?
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