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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 15, 2018 11:40:56 GMT
good move for him, now see how he adapts to new challenge, better off out of arsenal
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Post by kingstonred on Nov 15, 2018 11:44:41 GMT
Would love this!
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Post by rossyjones on Nov 15, 2018 11:49:44 GMT
A sublime move if it goes through. Get in there Rambo
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 15, 2018 11:51:36 GMT
Think it's happening, great move for him imo. No reason why he couldn't be a starter in that side. I just had a look at the midfield that played against Dortmund and I have to agree with you. It's not as strong as I first thought.
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Post by manulike on Nov 15, 2018 12:42:16 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 15, 2018 12:45:21 GMT
Fantastic move if it comes off.
I have to say though I disagree withe comments about Bayern's midfield. Martinez, Tolisso, Goretzka, Thiago are all internationals for Spain, France and Germany. Looking at that list I wouldn't say Rambo is a 100% guaranteed starter. However, it looks like Ramsey would be a replacement for Rodriguez whose loan expires at the end of the season. There's no reason why he couldn't establish himself in that side, and this is probably the best move for him. Fingers crossed it goes through.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 15, 2018 12:54:24 GMT
It would be the biggest and best transfer in Welsh football since Bale went Galactico.
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Post by ger93 on Nov 15, 2018 13:18:35 GMT
Welshiron's obsession with Welsh player's club status strikes again! For me Joe Allen has become the most influential player in the Welsh team. Not the most talented, but the most player whose absence is felt most keenly. Our record in the World Cup qualifiers demonstrates that. Along with Ramsey, Allen was absent from the key loss of two points at home to Georgia. But apart from that he was present for our best performance away in the draw away to Serbia - when Bale was absent. He was also absent from the somewhat fortuitous victory at home to Austria, where Bale and Ramsey played 90 minutes but we were very lucky to not go behind first half, before being rescued by Woodburn late on. Bale was also absent in the key victory over Georgia away, and then finally, we saw the impact of Allen being targeted (no coincidence) by the Irish in the decisive match against ROI. With the emergence of Ampadu and Smith hopefully Allen's absence won't be felt so keenly in future games, but for me, as things stand Allen's absence from the team sheet is the one that affect the balance and composure of the team the most. Spot on - And anyone who can't see how important he is to us has either 1) never played; or 2) does not understand the game of pel-droed.
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Post by alarch on Nov 15, 2018 14:48:22 GMT
I honestly think this is the best move Ramsey could make. Joining a massive club, with an excellent record when it comes to the longevity of their players. I would like to know if this is down to luck (I doubt it) - or whether they have an unique formula for prolonging the careers of the likes of the injury prone Robben. To me, the only thing that's stopped Ramsey getting the credit his talent merits is his stop-start career. You could say the same of Bale, Allen, Jonny Williams...
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Post by alarch on Nov 15, 2018 14:55:36 GMT
One factor that is advantageous to Ramsey (and Wales) by him playing in the Bundesliga is that it's an 18 team league - meaning 4 fewer league fixtures. He also won't have to content with countless Europa League and League Cup games. Less playing time has got to be good for a player with such dodgy hammys.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 15, 2018 15:13:49 GMT
Welshiron's obsession with Welsh player's club status strikes again! For me Joe Allen has become the most influential player in the Welsh team. Not the most talented, but the most player whose absence is felt most keenly. Our record in the World Cup qualifiers demonstrates that. Along with Ramsey, Allen was absent from the key loss of two points at home to Georgia. But apart from that he was present for our best performance away in the draw away to Serbia - when Bale was absent. He was also absent from the somewhat fortuitous victory at home to Austria, where Bale and Ramsey played 90 minutes but we were very lucky to not go behind first half, before being rescued by Woodburn late on. Bale was also absent in the key victory over Georgia away, and then finally, we saw the impact of Allen being targeted (no coincidence) by the Irish in the decisive match against ROI. With the emergence of Ampadu and Smith hopefully Allen's absence won't be felt so keenly in future games, but for me, as things stand Allen's absence from the team sheet is the one that affect the balance and composure of the team the most. Spot on - And anyone who can't see how important he is to us has either 1) never played; or 2) does not understand the game of pel-droed. Who said he wasn't important? I'm saying Bale & Ramsey are more important and better players, just look at their careers. As for never playing, would be surprised if you played a higher level than me but irrelevant
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Post by mattyd on Nov 15, 2018 15:18:28 GMT
Always wanted Ramsey to go abroad. I'd be delighted if this went through.
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 15, 2018 17:09:01 GMT
Might be a few trips from Wales to Munich next season (or next year if Arsenal decide to cash in).
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 15, 2018 17:09:24 GMT
It would be the biggest and best transfer in Welsh football since Bale went Galactico. No sh*t
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 15, 2018 21:11:31 GMT
No reason why he couldn't be a starter in that side. Thiago, Javi Martinez and two highly-rated players in Goretzka and Tolisso are a few reasons why he couldn't be a starter in that side, unless he put in a Euro 2016 performance every match. By all means he should make the move - miles ahead of Arsenal, but I can already see the "why don't they see his value like we do?" type comments and threads.
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Post by manulike on Nov 16, 2018 22:27:48 GMT
If I hear a single bad word about Rambo's (non) performance v Denmark - I will bite your head off - so don't you dare!
Aaron was poor tonight.
He was VERY poor tonight.
I blame it on Emery and on the Dutch and even on the English ;-(
Joe, on the other hand, was VERY good. Not perfect, and lacking a yard or two. But probably our best player tonight
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Post by saints19 on Nov 16, 2018 22:33:08 GMT
Every four games or so Ramsey seems to have a bad or indifferent game. The rest of the time, he's excellent. It's his nature to be inconsistent I guess.
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Post by alarch on Nov 16, 2018 22:56:20 GMT
If there is one valid criticism of Ramsey is that he's slow off the mark. Great engine, but no great turn of speed, which is why he's not much cop as a defensive mid, in stark contrast to Allen. Ramsey comes into his own in opposition territory - to expect him to play a deep-lying role weakens us defensively and diminishes our attacking capability. How can Giggs not understand this?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 23:02:43 GMT
If there is one valid criticism of Ramsey is that he's slow off the mark. Great engine, but no great turn of speed, which is why he's not much cop as a defensive mid, in stark contrast to Allen. Ramsey comes into his own in opposition territory - to expect him to play a deep-lying role weakens us defensively and diminishes our attacking capability. How can Giggs not understand this? I thought his movement was poor tonight - usually his strength - didn’t show for the ball enough
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Post by insertname on Nov 16, 2018 23:07:40 GMT
If I hear a single bad word about Rambo's (non) performance v Denmark - I will bite your head off - so don't you dare! Aaron was poor tonight. He was VERY poor tonight. I blame it on Emery and on the Dutch and even on the English ;-( Joe, on the other hand, was VERY good. Not perfect, and lacking a yard or two. But probably our best player tonight Quelle surprise. When was his last good game in a Wales shirt? I make it Serbia away aaaaages ago. I'm not sure he is as good as claimed on here at club level but I am damn sure he is not as good as claimed at international level. He just can't be relied on to turn up. 300k a week, ROTFLMAO
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 17, 2018 0:00:57 GMT
Got ridiculed a bit the other day for daring ask the question of where Ramsey is possibly droppable (to the subs bench). I have always been a Ramsey fan and want him back to his best etc.
But come on, since the Euros he has not been good at all. I think it is only possible for him to play his best in 1 position and that is in the middle behind striker and imo next campaign, Brooks, Bale, Wilson will also be vying for that position potentially.
He is not good playing deeper and Ampadu/Smith will be stronger alongside Allen next year.
Through the last campaign up until now, he just looks lost, doesn't release the ball when in great passing position, and gives the ball away a lot.
Think he needs to sort his self out , he can defo get back to being the Rambo from the Euros.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 18, 2018 11:33:43 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Nov 18, 2018 13:07:10 GMT
Ramsey didn't have a bad game but he is wasted as a defensive midfielder.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 18, 2018 13:11:00 GMT
Some times it's best to re watch a game than when emotions high and fuelled up for the game... I for one should do this more often
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 18, 2018 21:56:15 GMT
If I hear a single bad word about Rambo's (non) performance v Denmark - I will bite your head off - so don't you dare! Aaron was poor tonight. He was VERY poor tonight. I blame it on Emery and on the Dutch and even on the English ;-( Joe, on the other hand, was VERY good. Not perfect, and lacking a yard or two. But probably our best player tonight Rambo played for us against Denmark? You learn something new every day!
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2018 22:14:21 GMT
If I hear a single bad word about Rambo's (non) performance v Denmark - I will bite your head off - so don't you dare! Aaron was poor tonight. He was VERY poor tonight. I blame it on Emery and on the Dutch and even on the English ;-( Joe, on the other hand, was VERY good. Not perfect, and lacking a yard or two. But probably our best player tonight Rambo played for us against Denmark? You learn something new every day! I sometimes wish there was a dislike button on here...
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 18, 2018 22:16:39 GMT
Rambo played for us against Denmark? You learn something new every day! I sometimes wish there was a dislike button on here... Yeah, let's avoid criticising players for not pulling a quarter of their weight; that will improve things.
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2018 22:39:29 GMT
I sometimes wish there was a dislike button on here... Yeah, let's avoid criticising players for not pulling a quarter of their weight; that will improve things. The criticism is unwarranted. Firstly, he didn't play half as badly as people are making out. Secondly, he was being played in a position everyone apart from Giggs knows he's not comfortable with. Allen would struggle if he were asked to play as a 10 or on the wing, brooks would struggle if he played as a deep-lying midfielder. Ramsey's instincts are all attacking, it's Giggs that got this one wrong, not Ramsey
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Post by robin1864 on Nov 18, 2018 22:56:08 GMT
Yeah, let's avoid criticising players for not pulling a quarter of their weight; that will improve things. The criticism is unwarranted. Firstly, he didn't play half as badly as people are making out. Secondly, he was being played in a position everyone apart from Giggs knows he's not comfortable with. Allen would struggle if he were asked to play as a 10 or on the wing, brooks would struggle if he played as a deep-lying midfielder. Ramsey's instincts are all attacking, it's Giggs that got this one wrong, not Ramsey Ramsey (if you believe everything you read on this forum) is supposedly one of the best midfielders of this generation. With that apostle fact in mind, he should have played much better and should be more versatile when he finds himself played out of his regular position, because we now have several young players who are pushing for regular spots and showing much more enthusiasm.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 18, 2018 23:03:17 GMT
The criticism is unwarranted. Firstly, he didn't play half as badly as people are making out. Secondly, he was being played in a position everyone apart from Giggs knows he's not comfortable with. Allen would struggle if he were asked to play as a 10 or on the wing, brooks would struggle if he played as a deep-lying midfielder. Ramsey's instincts are all attacking, it's Giggs that got this one wrong, not Ramsey Ramsey (if you believe everything you read on this forum) is supposedly one of the best midfielders of this generation. With that apostle fact in mind, he should have played much better and should be more versatile when he finds himself played out of his regular position, because we now have several young players who are pushing for regular spots and showing much more enthusiasm. Well said bro. Ramsey needs to be dropped for that display he put in against Denmark he is so inconsistent.
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