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Euro 2020
Nov 9, 2018 12:41:06 GMT
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Post by cantonwelsh79 on Nov 9, 2018 12:41:06 GMT
Based on the current standings and assessed on likelyhood of qualifying and good away days, i’d go:- Poland Cymru Finland Lithuania Faroe islands Malta based on current standings we can't draw Poland as they are in pot 2 with us Pity- that would be a fantastic group!
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Post by superunknown on Nov 9, 2018 12:58:54 GMT
On current standings I'd take:
Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Luxembourg San Marino
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Post by manulike on Nov 9, 2018 13:16:07 GMT
On current standings I'd take: Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Luxembourg San Marino I don't necessarily mind any of those, but it's gonna be a mighty expensive year...
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Post by superunknown on Nov 9, 2018 13:19:05 GMT
On current standings I'd take: Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Luxembourg San Marino I don't necessarily mind any of those, but it's gonna be a mighty expensive year... Yeah I know, just thought after you said that besides Estonia they'll all be so expensive. Hoping to book 2 of the flights as soon as the draw is made, rest will have to wait until I have mo cash.
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Euro 2020
Nov 9, 2018 13:22:56 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Nov 9, 2018 13:22:56 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Nov 9, 2018 13:25:06 GMT
based on current standings we can't draw Poland as they are in pot 2 with us Pity- that would be a fantastic group! Although on the link I just posted they are 49% pot 1 51% pot 2 so it's still possible Basically Iceland in pot 2 + 1 of Poland Croatia Germany
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Euro 2020
Nov 9, 2018 13:25:54 GMT
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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 9, 2018 13:25:54 GMT
Based on the current standings and assessed on likelyhood of qualifying and good away days, i’d go:- Poland Cymru Finland Lithuania Faroe islands Malta based on current standings we can't draw Poland as they are in pot 2 with us Based on the Wikipedia page for Leauge A - croatia and iceland are currently the ones in position 11&12 (and pot 2) Poland and Germany would stay pot 1.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 9, 2018 13:33:43 GMT
I'd take Poland and perhaps, Italy. Germany might be on a downward trajectory but I still wouldn't like to be in a group with them.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 9, 2018 13:52:45 GMT
based on current standings we can't draw Poland as they are in pot 2 with us Based on the Wikipedia page for Leauge A - croatia and iceland are currently the ones in position 11&12 (and pot 2) Poland and Germany would stay pot 1. You are correct based on the current standings my mistake. I was basing my reply on the current likelihood % on this link www.football-rankings.info/2018/10/2020-uefa-euro-qualification-seeding.html?m=1. Even this is a lot closer than I thought. I too wanted a trip to Poland so hopefully they will stay in pot 1.
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Euro 2020
Nov 9, 2018 14:03:41 GMT
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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 9, 2018 14:03:41 GMT
Like you say, all speculation at this point. Would be mad if Germany is in pot 2
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Post by saints19 on Nov 9, 2018 14:08:24 GMT
IMO, all the top seeds/potential top seeds would comfortably beat us over the course of a group. The sole exception would be Iceland, if they could somehow get into the top pot (2.6% chance according to FR). I think we're basically playing for 2nd place in whatever group we get. There are some potentially tough groups but some potentially gentle groups. There's a decent chance we end up with someone like NI or Israel being the toughest team we need to beat to qualify. That would be a dream draw.
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 9, 2018 14:30:19 GMT
based on current standings we can't draw Poland as they are in pot 2 with us Pity- that would be a fantastic group! Poland tickets to stage 3 Finland tickets to stage 2 Lithuania tickets to stage -3 Faroe Island tickets to stage -4 Malta stage 1 I'm really starting to seriously think about the likelihood of travelling to games without tickets.
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 9, 2018 14:31:14 GMT
Like you say, all speculation at this point. Would be mad if Germany is in pot 2 Would be great
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Post by saints19 on Nov 9, 2018 15:26:35 GMT
Would laugh if the Germans fell to pot 2 and then drew England.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 9, 2018 23:30:01 GMT
I just really want us to avoid Turkey, Serbia and Greece. All could potentially turn our group into a difficult one.
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Post by ae15 on Nov 10, 2018 1:12:58 GMT
I just really want us to avoid Turkey, Serbia and Greece. All could potentially turn our group into a difficult one. At least with those tickets should be fairly easy to come by! 75,000, 55,000 and 70,000 seaters.
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Post by derynglas on Nov 10, 2018 9:43:40 GMT
Most likely to have Greece in pot 3,wouldnt be a bad draw in football terms or the trip havent played them competitively as far as I know. Serbia the nightmare draw think they should be promoted to league B so hopefully avoid them. Could either face Turkey (or Sweden) if they are relegated which would be 2 of the better sides in pot 3 but good trips,hope we get an easier draw but we never seem to get that.
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 10, 2018 10:57:30 GMT
Most likely to have Greece in pot 3,wouldnt be a bad draw in football terms or the trip havent played them competitively as far as I know. Serbia the nightmare draw think they should be promoted to league B so hopefully avoid them. Could either face Turkey (or Sweden) if they are relegated which would be 2 of the better sides in pot 3 but good trips,hope we get an easier draw but we never seem to get that. I'd settle for Greece out of pot 3. Romania out of pot 4 would be difficult and Hungary not much better.
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Euro 2020
Nov 10, 2018 13:49:44 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 10, 2018 13:49:44 GMT
Most likely to have Greece in pot 3,wouldnt be a bad draw in football terms or the trip havent played them competitively as far as I know. Serbia the nightmare draw think they should be promoted to league B so hopefully avoid them. Could either face Turkey (or Sweden) if they are relegated which would be 2 of the better sides in pot 3 but good trips,hope we get an easier draw but we never seem to get that. I'd settle for Greece out of pot 3. Romania out of pot 4 would be difficult and Hungary not much better. Greece have a stubborn defence. I would much rather nearly all the other teams in this pot.
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Post by cadno on Nov 10, 2018 14:24:00 GMT
I'd love a trip to Romania
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Post by rushlegend on Nov 11, 2018 23:05:40 GMT
Most likely to have Greece in pot 3,wouldnt be a bad draw in football terms or the trip havent played them competitively as far as I know.
Think we played them in qualifying for 1966 World Cup
Won 4-1 at home and lost 2-0 in Athens.
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Euro 2020
Nov 12, 2018 8:29:45 GMT
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Post by zakbaby on Nov 12, 2018 8:29:45 GMT
Based on the link i would say the easiest draw would be Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Gibraltar San Marino
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 12, 2018 9:07:18 GMT
The concept of the away double header is something that's always appealed to me. I remember when the countries arranged their own dates Scotland used to go out of their way to arrange them but since then they very rarely happen. That was until this nations cup,where there' been a good few. There must be half a dozen teams with a couple of away games in the fixtures this week next week. England had Croatia and Spain away in the same break. If they could be geographically close then it could be a brilliant trip
20 teams will have played away double headers in this tournament. Perhaps there's a move towards that
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Euro 2020
Nov 12, 2018 9:12:31 GMT
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Post by zakbaby on Nov 12, 2018 9:12:31 GMT
Based on the link i would say the easiest draw would be Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Gibraltar San Marino Worst draw Spain Russia Serbia Romania Macedonia Latvia
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 12, 2018 9:19:45 GMT
Based on the link i would say the easiest draw would be Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Gibraltar San Marino Worst draw Spain Russia Serbia Romania Macedonia Latvia That's a good draw. We wouldn't be in it and it takes real difficulty in pot 3 and 4. I expect Romania to end up in pot 3 in the end
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 12, 2018 9:53:56 GMT
Worst draw Spain Russia Serbia Romania Macedonia Latvia That's a good draw. We wouldn't be in it and it takes real difficulty in pot 3 and 4. I expect Romania to end up in pot 3 in the end Scrub that Romania cant get in pot 3. Love to go there but a tough draw out of pot 4.
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Euro 2020
Nov 12, 2018 10:49:37 GMT
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Post by grifftinfoilhat on Nov 12, 2018 10:49:37 GMT
The concept of the away double header is something that's always appealed to me. I remember when the countries arranged their own dates Scotland used to go out of their way to arrange them but since then they very rarely happen. That was until this nations cup,where there' been a good few. There must be half a dozen teams with a couple of away games in the fixtures this week next week. England had Croatia and Spain away in the same break. If they could be geographically close then it could be a brilliant trip 20 teams will have played away double headers in this tournament. Perhaps there's a move towards that We had Cyprus away followed by San Marino away a few days later back in 2007 which was a logistical nightmare but great fun. Especially the overnight ferry from Greece to Italy. I'd love another away double header.
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Euro 2020
Nov 12, 2018 10:57:54 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 12, 2018 10:57:54 GMT
Weren’t Iceland and the Netherlands an away friendly double header in 2008?
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 18:23:55 GMT
Based on the link i would say the easiest draw would be Switzerland Wales Finland Estonia Gibraltar San Marino Worst draw Spain Russia Serbia Romania Macedonia Latvia That draw is actually impossible due to UEFA's restriction on keeping the hosts of the tournament apart: Host teams: In order to allow all 12 teams from the host associations to have a chance to qualify as group winners and runners-up, a maximum of two will be placed in each group: Azerbaijan, Denmark, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Russia, Scotland, Spain. Unfortunately, if we replaced Russia as the second seed, Romania and Spain would meet the restriction as there are only two hosts in that group. So the nightmare draw is possible for us, but not Russia. Putin will no doubt invade Serbia just prior to the draw so his team can't draw them, either. There are also multiple other restrictions, it makes you wonder how they are going to manage it to make sure they are not contradicting each other! I am nowhere near mathematically competent enough to understand the implications, but it seems like our draw options may actually be quite limited. Political clashes: The following pairs of teams cannot be drawn into the same group due to political clashes: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia, Ukraine / Russia. Winter venues: A maximum of two teams identified as venues with high or medium risk of severe winter conditions will be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Russia, Ukraine. Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries will be placed in each group: Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal. Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel. Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, France, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.
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Post by manulike on Nov 12, 2018 20:27:44 GMT
That is great information, and certainly sets my mind at ease, especially as I really wouldn't like to draw ANY of the 12 host nations, with the exception on Germany or Russia.
So knowing that we can only draw a maximum of two out of that lot - and more likely only one - is a huge relief!
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