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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 12, 2018 20:36:32 GMT
Think Wales should start some political disputes with some tough pot 3-4 opponents. Maybe Carwyn jones should declare war on serbia and turkey as his last act as FM
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 22:51:15 GMT
Well, we could still for example draw England and ROI in the same group, or Spain and Scotland, Germany and Azerbaijan etc. A restriction that sets a maximum of two per group is not very restrictive. But we can't draw Russia or one of Denmark or ROI due to the fact that they'll be in pot 2 with us.
My concern is still the nightmare combination of Serbia plus Montenegro, Greece or Romania as pot 3 and 4 teams. We might not even be favourites to finish 2nd in that group.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 22:53:03 GMT
Think Wales should start some political disputes with some tough pot 3-4 opponents. Maybe Carwyn jones should declare war on serbia and turkey as his last act as FM Alas, the decision on whether or not to go to war isn't a devolved matter, requiring the Prime Minister and by recent convention the House of Commons to authorise it. But perhaps if he insults their leaders enough he can goad them, who knows.
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Post by manulike on Nov 12, 2018 22:55:12 GMT
Think Wales should start some political disputes with some tough pot 3-4 opponents. Maybe Carwyn jones should declare war on serbia and turkey as his last act as FM Alas, the decision on whether or not to go to war isn't a devolved matter, requiring the Prime Minister and by recent convention the House of Commons to authorise it. But perhaps if he insults their leaders enough he can goad them, who knows. Can we also declare war on Holland while we are at it ;-)
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 22:57:20 GMT
We can't declare on Holland, because it is only one part of the Netherlands.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 23:04:44 GMT
One other thing which I didn't mention is that the four winners of UNL League A go into five team groups. I believe they will be drawn first when the actual draw is done. Once we get the first two rounds of teams drawn it will probably be quite clear where we will be. If Kazakhstan are in a group with Gibraltar as pot 5 and 6 teams then that means we cannot be in that group. If Azerbaijan and ROI are together we cannot be there either. Once we get to the pot 2 teams being drawn we'll pretty much know where we are for certain I'd say.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 12, 2018 23:12:15 GMT
Having looked at the pots in light of all the restrictions here is a realistic draw which would be among the best paths and one which would be among the worst:
Best:
Switzerland Wales Scotland Lithuania Gibraltar San Marino
Worst:
France Wales Sweden Greece Kosovo
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Post by pendragon on Nov 13, 2018 1:50:35 GMT
Having looked at the pots in light of all the restrictions here is a realistic draw which would be among the best paths and one which would be among the worst: Best: Switzerland Wales Scotland Lithuania Gibraltar San Marino Worst: France Wales Sweden Greece Kosovo Kudos to you for coming up with these in light of all the restrictions 🖒 Yep, I don't fancy the second Halloween-esque group at all, especially with the World Champions and the sneaky Swedes 😟 First group would be among our better options. I can just see us being slotted in with the Scots!
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 13, 2018 6:56:19 GMT
Be glad when this draw is made ... my head is about to explode reading this and the national league thread...
😫😫😫
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Post by steveh on Nov 13, 2018 9:03:01 GMT
With all the great info and stats on here, has anyone compiled a list of max attendances for each country and any that might use different venues? I was considering booking flights for some straight after the draw but don’t want another Copenhagen situation again!
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Post by superunknown on Nov 13, 2018 9:17:10 GMT
With all the great info and stats on here, has anyone compiled a list of max attendances for each country and any that might use different venues? I was considering booking flights for some straight after the draw but don’t want another Copenhagen situation again! I'm working on one for all the countries different locations used over the last set of qualifiers and Nations League, should be finished today or latest tomorrow.
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 13, 2018 9:48:51 GMT
With all the great info and stats on here, has anyone compiled a list of max attendances for each country and any that might use different venues? I was considering booking flights for some straight after the draw but don’t want another Copenhagen situation again! I'm working on one for all the countries different locations used over the last set of qualifiers and Nations League, should be finished today or latest tomorrow. Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan!
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 13, 2018 9:52:18 GMT
I'm working on one for all the countries different locations used over the last set of qualifiers and Nations League, should be finished today or latest tomorrow. Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan! I think it'll be good to have a rough guide, to at least settle our excitement a bit before the 2nd December. I'm really eager to start booking the next lot of away trips, despite having the Denmark and Albania double header in front of me.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 13, 2018 9:54:27 GMT
I'm working on one for all the countries different locations used over the last set of qualifiers and Nations League, should be finished today or latest tomorrow. Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan! Yes I’ve included all the locations they’ve played in and who against so gives us more of an idea where we might play. Probably not that helpful for the teams you mentioned but flights are cheap enough there anyway that it’s probably not too big an issue to wait as long.
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 13, 2018 10:01:28 GMT
I'm working on one for all the countries different locations used over the last set of qualifiers and Nations League, should be finished today or latest tomorrow. Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan! This could be a big issue. Absolute nightmare scenario Switzerland, Montenegro, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino. You'd probably need about 9 out of 12 aways beyond the Swiss game and you'd probably 6 for that. Better Spain, Turkey, Hungary, Azerbaijan and Malta. Should be enough to satisfy demand for most of those. Tougher group though.
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 13, 2018 10:16:26 GMT
Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan! This could be a big issue. Absolute nightmare scenario Switzerland, Montenegro, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino. You'd probably need about 9 out of 12 aways beyond the Swiss game and you'd probably 6 for that. Better Spain, Turkey, Hungary, Azerbaijan and Malta. Should be enough to satisfy demand for most of those. Tougher group though. Still looking forward to see the results though superunknown- don’t let me put you off 😂
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Post by eppingblue on Nov 13, 2018 10:39:46 GMT
This could be a big issue. Absolute nightmare scenario Switzerland, Montenegro, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino. You'd probably need about 9 out of 12 aways beyond the Swiss game and you'd probably 6 for that. Better Spain, Turkey, Hungary, Azerbaijan and Malta. Should be enough to satisfy demand for most of those. Tougher group though. Still looking forward to see the results though superunknown- don’t let me put you off 😂 He seems to have a pretty good understanding of the process. 3 weeks and the speculation can stop and the organisation starts. The more I look at the play offs, the more of an absolute pain they look. If your not the highest ranked team you wont know where your playing the final 3 days after the single legged semi final. The ticket office will have a melt down.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 13, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
This could be a big issue. Absolute nightmare scenario Switzerland, Montenegro, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino. You'd probably need about 9 out of 12 aways beyond the Swiss game and you'd probably 6 for that. Better Spain, Turkey, Hungary, Azerbaijan and Malta. Should be enough to satisfy demand for most of those. Tougher group though. Still looking forward to see the results though superunknown- don’t let me put you off 😂 Haha it's up. Pot 1 was a bit of a slog getting through as you said, many locations!
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Post by steveh on Nov 13, 2018 22:24:11 GMT
Still looking forward to see the results though superunknown- don’t let me put you off 😂 Haha it's up. Pot 1 was a bit of a slog getting through as you said, many locations! Top man, that was quick!!
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 13, 2018 23:37:08 GMT
Let's just wait for the actual pots, lots can happen before they are confirmed; one week to go.
Then got the best part of 2 weeks for working out whats the best/worst bet.
Can't wait for 3 weeks time when we know who we got and when.
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Post by ae15 on Nov 20, 2018 22:53:21 GMT
Poland, Israel, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino would do just nicely.
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Post by manulike on Nov 20, 2018 23:30:30 GMT
Now that the final group seedings are set, this is my personal preference, with my Wales Away cap on :+)
Pot 1 - absolutely any one but England. If I had to choose, then Belgium :+) Pot 2 - us Pot 3 - Slovakia, Israel or Bulgaria Pot 4 - any one. With great pleasure :+) Pot 5 - any one but Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan... Pot 6 - yes, please. Bring it on!
Personally I am dead chuffed, with the seedings. Only pot I will be a little apprehensive about is pot 3.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 21, 2018 3:51:26 GMT
Pot 1 - Italy Pot 2 - Wales Pot 3 - not Serbia, preferably Israel, Finland or Bulgaria Pot 4 - not Georgia or Albania as we apparently can't beat them, Lithuania or Cyprus would be good Pot 5 - Azerbaijan - massive stadium and good away Pot 6 - San Marino - bring on the record goal haul
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 21, 2018 9:55:34 GMT
Whilst this is a good idea, for the bigger nations like Germany and Spain don’t they travel all over the country? Spain especially have a habit of playing in smaller stadiums. I remember travelling to Rome for the Italy game and then they moved it to Milan! This could be a big issue. Absolute nightmare scenario Switzerland, Montenegro, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino. You'd probably need about 9 out of 12 aways beyond the Swiss game and you'd probably 6 for that. Better Spain, Turkey, Hungary, Azerbaijan and Malta. Should be enough to satisfy demand for most of those. Tougher group though. The Gibraltar game would likely be hosted in the Algarve. They've only been playing in Gibraltar because they're against nothing teams who being 10 away fans. The ground in the Algarve holds around 30000 so we'd be given whatever we want.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 21, 2018 9:58:31 GMT
Now that the final group seedings are set, this is my personal preference, with my Wales Away cap on :+) Pot 1 - absolutely any one but England. If I had to choose, then Belgium :+) Pot 2 - us Pot 3 - Slovakia, Israel or Bulgaria Pot 4 - any one. With great pleasure :+) Pot 5 - any one but Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan... Pot 6 - yes, please. Bring it on! Personally I am dead chuffed, with the seedings. Only pot I will be a little apprehensive about is pot 3. You're right, pot 3 will likely be where it's won or lost for us. A good draw out of pot 3 and our chances of qualifying are high.
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Post by dai on Nov 21, 2018 11:31:13 GMT
Where can I see the list of teams per pot? Edit: Just seen them.
Pot 1 - Indifferent, we won't beat anyone so doesn't matter. Pot 2 - N/A (We wouldn't beat anyone in this Pot FWIW) Pot 3 - Norway, Bulgaria or Israel - we'd struggle against the others. Pot 4 - Cyprus, Estonia, Lithuania - again, we'd struggle against the others. Pot 5 - Whoever Pot 6 - Whoever
Looking at all those teams, I'm amazed we're in Pot 2. I'd say our current standard is Pot 3, or high Pot 4.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 21, 2018 11:33:58 GMT
Avoid Sweden and Serbia from Pot 3.
Anything else would give us an excellent chance.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 21, 2018 11:46:56 GMT
Poland, Israel, Lithuania, Gibraltar and San Marino would do just nicely. Brilliant away locations too!
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Post by rushlegend on Nov 21, 2018 12:50:33 GMT
Have the pots been decided now Nations League groups have finished?
So are Wales defo in Pot 2?
Are Germany in Pot 2 as well?
Thanks
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Post by dai on Nov 21, 2018 12:54:58 GMT
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