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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2023 12:24:01 GMT
This whole situation highlights my biggest fear, that post World Cup we're not 100% committed from the top to the bottom, we're instead in danger of drifting into the passive mess that we were for most of the 90's and 00's. It feels like the set up isn't right, that people aren't doing all they can. I can handle losing when we've done all we can but this situation alone is feeble and I wonder how many more times it might happen because if there's one thing that's becoming very apparent it's that we're not learning. Also our players aren't playing and it's now starting to show, Kieffer, Wilson and James have less than 160 minutes between them in the last two months, our keepers are either out of form, past it, never going to be good enough or crap. We're looking at blokes in their late 20's who play in League One, for a reason, who aren't even stand out performers as legitimate contenders for the squad now that we've had a few retirements and injuries. This won't cut it. We've worked ourselves into a brilliant position over the last 10 years or so and it feels like we're almost happily giving it up now that we've reached a World Cup finals. If ever a situation needed Ryan Giggs as manager it's now, I don't like him but he wouldn't allow this to happen and he and his team had a vision, there doesn't appear to be that now, just dreams and talk. Sitting back and managing the vibe of the squad worked for Coleman because across the pitch he had some of the best players in Welsh Football history in their prime, it's different now.
This situation is bigger than just Page, Johnson and Cooper, it could go far deeper than this.
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Post by saturn9 on Mar 25, 2023 12:29:03 GMT
This whole situation highlights my biggest fear, that post World Cup we're not 100% committed from the top to the bottom, we're instead in danger of drifting into the passive mess that we were for most of the 90's and 00's. It feels like the set up isn't right, that people aren't doing all they can. I can handle losing when we've done all we can but this situation alone is feeble and I wonder how many more times it might happen because if there's one thing that's becoming very apparent it's that we're not learning. Also our players aren't playing and it's now starting to show, Kieffer, Wilson and James have less than 160 minutes between them in the last two months, our keepers are either out of form, past it, never going to be good enough or crap. We're looking at blokes in their late 20's who play in League One, for a reason, who aren't even stand out performers as legitimate contenders for the squad now that we've had a few retirements and injuries. This won't cut it. We've worked ourselves into a brilliant position over the last 10 years or so and it feels like we're almost happily giving it up now that we've reached a World Cup finals. If ever a situation needed Ryan Giggs as manager it's now, I don't like him but he wouldn't allow this to happen and he and his team had a vision, there doesn't appear to be that now, just dreams and talk. Sitting back and managing the vibe of the squad worked for Coleman because across the pitch he had some of the best players in Welsh Football history in their prime, it's different now. This situation is bigger than just Page, Johnson and Cooper, it could go far deeper than this. Go for Bellamy and Osian permanently, just in time for the June matches. I have had it with the Page era now. New ideas needed asap. |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2023 12:32:05 GMT
Honestly, right now I'd rather read stories about Bellamy getting angry, carried away and almost coming to blows with players than all this happy clappy passive crap that it looks like we're seeing now. If you're going to be crap at least look bothered by it.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 25, 2023 12:56:52 GMT
Well, it was fun while it lasted I wonder if the FAW are regretting that 4 year deal? I fear jimexotic may be right that we've replaced vision with vibes and that's just not going to cut it |
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Post by welshrover on Mar 25, 2023 13:11:36 GMT
So people from Nottingham are scabs are they. Hope Brennan gets to see this , i for one am glad he is not playing as i pay my money to watch him in a Forest shirt not a Wales one. Yes he will be fit for 1st of April and i think its a fitting day for him to play. I also think Brennan is keeping is own council over this due to way he was treated at the world cup by Page playing unfit players along with players who had hardly kicked a ball in anger all season ahead of him. This could be Brennans way of sticking 2 fingers up to Page and his ideas . As for if Forest go down if it happens i will be still watching them and Brennan will still be playing for us as he is under contract for four years and Neco has been found to be not Premier League so who else is going to pay him so well ? 60'sred The reference to "scabs" goes back to the miner's strike. Disclaimer. I have no allegiance either way just giving info in case the op was unaware. |
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Post by dai on Mar 25, 2023 13:28:24 GMT
Honestly, right now I'd rather read stories about Bellamy getting angry, carried away and almost coming to blows with players than all this happy clappy passive crap that it looks like we're seeing now. If you're going to be crap at least look bothered by it. Thank god, someone else finally see's it. I was absolutely baffled by the FAW's decision to give Page a 4 year contract when we were looking worse and worse on the pitch. This campaign MAY be the one where he turns a corner, because the whole squad needed a reset and fresh legs. However those fresh legs won't have any impact if the coaching and management doesn't improve - which I don't think will. I'll be completely disheartened if we see pretty much the same line up as we saw out in the WC and prior to that. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 25, 2023 13:45:51 GMT
As it stands he is under contract and i think he is the player who would want to try to get Forest back up if they go down. I think he would sooner play for Forest in the Championship than Wales under its present management team. Its only going to get worse with the likes of Gunter coming back and a job for Bale also possible take about a closed shop and jobs for the boys why has someone like Earnshaw been offered a job ? BJ comes across as quite a selfish person so don’t be naive enough to think he won’t jump ship the second a better offer comes along. |
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Post by dai on Mar 25, 2023 13:47:50 GMT
As it stands he is under contract and i think he is the player who would want to try to get Forest back up if they go down. I think he would sooner play for Forest in the Championship than Wales under its present management team. Its only going to get worse with the likes of Gunter coming back and a job for Bale also possible take about a closed shop and jobs for the boys why has someone like Earnshaw been offered a job ? What's contract got do with anything? If someone comes in and offers Forest anything over £30m he will be sold. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 25, 2023 13:47:51 GMT
Honestly, right now I'd rather read stories about Bellamy getting angry, carried away and almost coming to blows with players than all this happy clappy passive crap that it looks like we're seeing now. If you're going to be crap at least look bothered by it. Thank god, someone else finally see's it. I was absolutely baffled by the FAW's decision to give Page a 4 year contract when we were looking worse and worse on the pitch. This campaign MAY be the one where he turns a corner, because the whole squad needed a reset and fresh legs. However those fresh legs won't have any impact if the coaching and management doesn't improve - which I don't think will. I'll be completely disheartened if we see pretty much the same line up as we saw out in the WC and prior to I’m sure even Pages biggest fans must be cringing at his incompetence |
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Post by 60sred on Mar 25, 2023 13:47:56 GMT
So people from Nottingham are scabs are they. Hope Brennan gets to see this , i for one am glad he is not playing as i pay my money to watch him in a Forest shirt not a Wales one. Yes he will be fit for 1st of April and i think its a fitting day for him to play. I also think Brennan is keeping is own council over this due to way he was treated at the world cup by Page playing unfit players along with players who had hardly kicked a ball in anger all season ahead of him. This could be Brennans way of sticking 2 fingers up to Page and his ideas . As for if Forest go down if it happens i will be still watching them and Brennan will still be playing for us as he is under contract for four years and Neco has been found to be not Premier League so who else is going to pay him so well ? 60'sred The reference to "scabs" goes back to the miner's strike. Disclaimer. I have no allegiance either way just giving info in case the op was unaware. i knew what his reference was as i have had to endure this insult for over 40 years being a Forest fan mainly from all the Yorkshire sides. Its just like Brennan has become a target on here i just wonder is that because he might be an anti English thing ? |
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 25, 2023 13:48:33 GMT
So people from Nottingham are scabs are they. Hope Brennan gets to see this , i for one am glad he is not playing as i pay my money to watch him in a Forest shirt not a Wales one. Yes he will be fit for 1st of April and i think its a fitting day for him to play. I also think Brennan is keeping is own council over this due to way he was treated at the world cup by Page playing unfit players along with players who had hardly kicked a ball in anger all season ahead of him. This could be Brennans way of sticking 2 fingers up to Page and his ideas . As for if Forest go down if it happens i will be still watching them and Brennan will still be playing for us as he is under contract for four years and Neco has been found to be not Premier League so who else is going to pay him so well ? 60'sred The reference to "scabs" goes back to the miner's strike. Disclaimer. I have no allegiance either way just giving info in case the op was unaware. FACT |
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 25, 2023 13:51:27 GMT
I'm far from Page's biggest fan, but honestly his only real crime here is being naive and taking Forest at their word that Brennan would meet up with the squad on Thursday. Lesson learnt and I doubt he'll do that again. The blame here lies squarely with Cooper, who firstly mismanaged Brennan's injury by playing him for 90 mins when he had a knock, and then lied to Wales' management about Brennan meeting up on Thursday before refusing to release him at all. He's always given off a slight Dic Siôn Dafydd vibe, and this confirms it for me. He clearly doesn't give a shit about Wales, and he's properly messed us about here. Hope the scabs go down and Brennan and Neco move on. Having said that, I agree with others that Brennan isn't completely blameless. He could have come if he wanted to. He's not some fringe player with no clout, he's their star man. He has all the power here. We've been spoiled with a generation of players that always put Wales first, and we might have to accept that Brennan won't be that way. He's from Nottingham so I suppose it's only natural that he feels more of a connection to Forest than Wales. If that's the case, I just hope another star comes along soon who does prioritise his country, so we don't have to depend on Brennan like we did Bale. Tbh a naïve manager will end up costing us. |
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Post by 60sred on Mar 25, 2023 13:53:59 GMT
As it stands he is under contract and i think he is the player who would want to try to get Forest back up if they go down. I think he would sooner play for Forest in the Championship than Wales under its present management team. Its only going to get worse with the likes of Gunter coming back and a job for Bale also possible take about a closed shop and jobs for the boys why has someone like Earnshaw been offered a job ? What's contract got do with anything? If someone comes in and offers Forest anything over £30m he will be sold. You are having a laugh over 30m start looking at your figures Gordon went to Newcastle for over 50 million and Brennan is the same age played international football and his stats are twice as good. |
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Post by dai on Mar 25, 2023 13:56:30 GMT
What's contract got do with anything? If someone comes in and offers Forest anything over £30m he will be sold. You are having a laugh over 30m start looking at your figures Gordon went to Newcastle for over 50 million and Brennan is the same age played international football and his stats are twice as good. Nope. Johnson is classed as Welsh and English players go for far more......unfortunately. |
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Post by welshrover on Mar 25, 2023 14:18:09 GMT
60'sred The reference to "scabs" goes back to the miner's strike. Disclaimer. I have no allegiance either way just giving info in case the op was unaware. i knew what his reference was as i have had to endure this insult for over 40 years being a Forest fan mainly from all the Yorkshire sides. Its just like Brennan has become a target on here i just wonder is that because he might be an anti English thing ? I recall going to Field Mill just after the miner's strike and the away team (English Football League but with no mining connections whatsoever) spent the entire 90 minutes chanting "scabs" at the Mansfield fans. Don't think anyone on here is making the Brennan situation anti English, probably just a lot of frustration I believe. |
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Post by bale-droed on Mar 25, 2023 14:41:41 GMT
Honestly, right now I'd rather read stories about Bellamy getting angry, carried away and almost coming to blows with players than all this happy clappy passive crap that it looks like we're seeing now. If you're going to be crap at least look bothered by it. I’ve disagreed with a lot you’ve posted over last day or 2 but this I’m 100% with you. I think we’ll qualify for Germany. But with 1-0s over Latvia and Armenia and a bit of luck v Turkey. Would love Bellamy and Osian in rite now. Osian as assistant for the next 4 campaigns is my wet dream. |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2023 14:51:20 GMT
It's good to have a forum with differing opinions, I know I can be quite strong with some of mine! Osian is someway to being the answer and it's staring us right in the face.
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Post by 60sred on Mar 25, 2023 15:52:32 GMT
As it stands he is under contract and i think he is the player who would want to try to get Forest back up if they go down. I think he would sooner play for Forest in the Championship than Wales under its present management team. Its only going to get worse with the likes of Gunter coming back and a job for Bale also possible take about a closed shop and jobs for the boys why has someone like Earnshaw been offered a job ? BJ comes across as quite a selfish person so don’t be naive enough to think he won’t jump ship the second a better offer comes along. If you are talking selfish Sir Bale must come way above Brennan he turned up at a World Cup Finals not fit and thought it was his devine right to be playing part of senior group of players making the decisions whilst Brennan who was fit was twiddling his thumbs on the bench . If you think its been hard to get him out of Forest, try and get Brennan out of Greece because if he is not a Forest next season he will be playing at Olympiacos on loan and who knows maybe even champions league football is this the better offer you refer to. |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2023 15:59:37 GMT
This thread has taken a bit of a twist, why Olympiacos?
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 25, 2023 16:16:31 GMT
This thread has out-apostled itself.
- Welsh fans are apparently anti-English against Brennan (even though he’s far from the only English born player we have)
- replacing Page with Osian and Bellamy before the the qualifying campaign even starts.
- because Brennan has pulled out of this meeting,apparently it’s doesn’t want to play for Wales (even though he’s turned up at most other camps, including under 21s). Totally baseless comment.
- Brennan pulled out because he wants to stick two fingers up to Page for playing (presumably) a half fit Bale ahead of him.
- if Forest get relegated then Brennan would either play for Forest in the Championship instead of playing for Wales (even though he doesn’t have to choose between Wales and Forest if they’re in the Championship) or will head out to Greece to play in the Champions League.
I wonder if anyone spends any time reading back what they post in the days/weeks afterwards and wonder what on earth they were on about.
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Post by 60sred on Mar 25, 2023 16:17:03 GMT
This thread has taken a bit of a twist, why Olympiacos? Forest owner is the billionaire shipping tycoon Maranakis who also owns Olympiacos. They have a strange league set up over there where if you come top of the league is does not mean you are champions. They have a playoff system which is sort of similar to Rugby League where you have a grand final. So european places still up for grabs next season |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 25, 2023 17:22:32 GMT
This thread has out-apostled itself. - Welsh fans are apparently anti-English against Brennan (even though he’s far from the only English born player we have) - replacing Page with Osian and Bellamy before the the qualifying campaign even starts. - because Brennan has pulled out of this meeting,apparently it’s doesn’t want to play for Wales (even though he’s turned up at most other camps, including under 21s). Totally baseless comment. - Brennan pulled out because he wants to stick two fingers up to Page for playing (presumably) a half fit Bale ahead of him. - if Forest get relegated then Brennan would either play for Forest in the Championship instead of playing for Wales (even though he doesn’t have to choose between Wales and Forest if they’re in the Championship) or will head out to Greece to play in the Champions League. I wonder if anyone spends any time reading back what they post in the days/weeks afterwards and wonder what on earth they were on about. Hey, don't tell me you weren't entertained!  |
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Post by llan123 on Mar 25, 2023 19:18:44 GMT
Why are people blaming Cooper/Forest for this? Of course he's going to act in self interest, as do 99% of people in football at that level. His job is to keep Forest in the premier league, literally billions of pounds is reliant on him keeping them in the league. He's under huge pressure. I would have done the same thing in his shoes. He's managed to keep his star player at home for two weeks and iron out any slight injury he may have for the run. Forest/Cooper have played a blinder.
The blame does lie with the player and the FAW. Page saying he should have been stronger, well why wasn't he? I like Page and whilst a four year contract is patently ridiculous hes the best we are gonna get right now although he does come across as very naiive on occasion.. Its bizarre. Forest have to release him to us, Johnson has to be honest with us, if he hasn't then shame on him. Its not a good look regardless, its not as if this is a game in the middle of a qualifying run whereby we have no hope, this is the very start.
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Post by reyrey on Mar 25, 2023 19:22:16 GMT
Why are people blaming Cooper/Forest for this? Of course he's going to act in self interest, as do 99% of people in football at that level. His job is to keep Forest in the premier league, literally billions of pounds is reliant on him keeping them in the league. He's under huge pressure. I would have done the same thing in his shoes. He's managed to keep his star player at home for two weeks and iron out any slight injury he may have for the run. Forest/Cooper have played a blinder. The blame does lie with the player and the FAW. Page saying he should have been stronger, well why wasn't he? I like Page and whilst a four year contract is patently ridiculous hes the best we are gonna get right now although he does come across as very naiive on occasion.. Its bizarre. Forest have to release him to us, Johnson has to be honest with us, if he hasn't then shame on him. Its not a good look regardless, its not as if this is a game in the middle of a qualifying run whereby we have no hope, this is the very start. How is he the best we can get? |
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Post by zserty on Mar 26, 2023 10:42:21 GMT
So people from Nottingham are scabs are they. Hope Brennan gets to see this , i for one am glad he is not playing as i pay my money to watch him in a Forest shirt not a Wales one. Yes he will be fit for 1st of April and i think its a fitting day for him to play. I also think Brennan is keeping is own council over this due to way he was treated at the world cup by Page playing unfit players along with players who had hardly kicked a ball in anger all season ahead of him. This could be Brennans way of sticking 2 fingers up to Page and his ideas . As for if Forest go down if it happens i will be still watching them and Brennan will still be playing for us as he is under contract for four years and Neco has been found to be not Premier League so who else is going to pay him so well ? Is this a take of an English Forest fan? Of course you wouldn't care if he played for his national team. Unfortunately Brennan has most likely been advised poorly and has made the decision he has, obviously from a Wales perspective there needs to be repercussions for ditching the team otherwise others will think it's acceptable. As for Forests relegation battle and any player staying to fight to go back up, that never happens unfortunately. If an offer comes in from the prem he will leave, happens at every relegated club every year. |
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Post by 60sred on Mar 26, 2023 12:54:16 GMT
So people from Nottingham are scabs are they. Hope Brennan gets to see this , i for one am glad he is not playing as i pay my money to watch him in a Forest shirt not a Wales one. Yes he will be fit for 1st of April and i think its a fitting day for him to play. I also think Brennan is keeping is own council over this due to way he was treated at the world cup by Page playing unfit players along with players who had hardly kicked a ball in anger all season ahead of him. This could be Brennans way of sticking 2 fingers up to Page and his ideas . As for if Forest go down if it happens i will be still watching them and Brennan will still be playing for us as he is under contract for four years and Neco has been found to be not Premier League so who else is going to pay him so well ? Is this a take of an English Forest fan? Of course you wouldn't care if he played for his national team. Unfortunately Brennan has most likely been advised poorly and has made the decision he has, obviously from a Wales perspective there needs to be repercussions for ditching the team otherwise others will think it's acceptable. As for Forests relegation battle and any player staying to fight to go back up, that never happens unfortunately. If an offer comes in from the prem he will leave, happens at every relegated club every year. Yes i am an english Forest fan but my wife comes from Wales and i will try to give a balanced reply to your question. I have been a season ticket holder for about 50 years at Forest, i have no connection with the England team because none of our players are playing for the national side so results do not interest me. i look out for results of all our international players. If you think Forest have been unfair to Wales over Brennans absence i am going to give you something to think about. When players play play apart in a national side reaching and playing at a major tournament the club can receive a large substantial pay out from either uefa/fifa. It is also a benefit to any club having international players by being able to promote them for things like shirt sales and match tickets the real extremes being the likes of ronaldo & messi. My main gripe is over the way Brennan was treated at the World Cup as i was looking forward to seeing him play and as he was not picked my wife and i i decided not to watch the matches. As for your statement about players always leaving when relegated 2 come to mind in the last couple of seasons who were their clubs main men as i think you would agree Brennan is Forest main man they are Mitro of Fulham & Pukki Norwich |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 26, 2023 13:23:11 GMT
Is this a take of an English Forest fan? Of course you wouldn't care if he played for his national team. Unfortunately Brennan has most likely been advised poorly and has made the decision he has, obviously from a Wales perspective there needs to be repercussions for ditching the team otherwise others will think it's acceptable. As for Forests relegation battle and any player staying to fight to go back up, that never happens unfortunately. If an offer comes in from the prem he will leave, happens at every relegated club every year. Yes i am an english Forest fan but my wife comes from Wales and i will try to give a balanced reply to your question. I have been a season ticket holder for about 50 years at Forest, i have no connection with the England team because none of our players are playing for the national side so results do not interest me. i look out for results of all our international players. If you think Forest have been unfair to Wales over Brennans absence i am going to give you something to think about. When players play play apart in a national side reaching and playing at a major tournament the club can receive a large substantial pay out from either uefa/fifa. It is also a benefit to any club having international players by being able to promote them for things like shirt sales and match tickets the real extremes being the likes of ronaldo & messi. My main gripe is over the way Brennan was treated at the World Cup as i was looking forward to seeing him play and as he was not picked my wife and i i decided not to watch the matches. As for your statement about players always leaving when relegated 2 come to mind in the last couple of seasons who were their clubs main men as i think you would agree Brennan is Forest main man they are Mitro of Fulham & Pukki Norwich We had a tried and tested formula that got us to the WC and we stuck with it. Pre-WC Brennan was doing okay at Forest but hadn't quite found his feet at the top level Whilst I can admit we might have played better with him on the pitch instead of James, you have to understand James has built up a lot of goodwill since his debut. He was also fantastic against Austria in the playoff semi After playing poorly at the WC, the retirements, and Brennan's upturn in form it's clear he should be out main man now. So it is frustrating that he's been ruled out at the first opportunity for him to be the main man - particularly with the way the injury was handled At the end of the day if he's injured he's injured, but to me I can't quite understand what Cooper was thinking playing him for 90 mins against Newcastle |
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Post by 60sred on Mar 26, 2023 13:49:19 GMT
Yes i am an english Forest fan but my wife comes from Wales and i will try to give a balanced reply to your question. I have been a season ticket holder for about 50 years at Forest, i have no connection with the England team because none of our players are playing for the national side so results do not interest me. i look out for results of all our international players. If you think Forest have been unfair to Wales over Brennans absence i am going to give you something to think about. When players play play apart in a national side reaching and playing at a major tournament the club can receive a large substantial pay out from either uefa/fifa. It is also a benefit to any club having international players by being able to promote them for things like shirt sales and match tickets the real extremes being the likes of ronaldo & messi. My main gripe is over the way Brennan was treated at the World Cup as i was looking forward to seeing him play and as he was not picked my wife and i i decided not to watch the matches. As for your statement about players always leaving when relegated 2 come to mind in the last couple of seasons who were their clubs main men as i think you would agree Brennan is Forest main man they are Mitro of Fulham & Pukki Norwich We had a tried and tested formula that got us to the WC and we stuck with it. Pre-WC Brennan was doing okay at Forest but hadn't quite found his feet at the top level Whilst I can admit we might have played better with him on the pitch instead of James, you have to understand James has built up a lot of goodwill since his debut. He was also fantastic against Austria in the playoff semi After playing poorly at the WC, the retirements, and Brennan's upturn in form it's clear he should be out main man now. So it is frustrating that he's been ruled out at the first opportunity for him to be the main man - particularly with the way the injury was handled At the end of the day if he's injured he's injured, but to me I can't quite understand what Cooper was thinking playing him for 90 mins against Newcastle i dont think Brennan is injured and i stated on this thread earlier as Cooper has had an history a Forest when players are not expected to play they end up on the team sheet. Cooper gave his press conference 2 days stating Johnson not likely to play against Newcastle. Apology in advance if this is not correct i think 24 hours later is was reported that Page expected Johnson to turn up and be available to play. If Page has possibly broke a confidence from someone at Forest you could possibly understand the kick back. As for Brennan he has come back from the world cup wanting to prove his doubters wrong. Yes i understand James has buit up the goodwill. What i found the most astonishing thing was after a read about his cameo in the first game he was not in the starting line up for the the 2nd game which i would have considered to have been your most important game for over 60 years as this was only your 2nd world cup. |
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Post by zserty on Mar 26, 2023 15:13:42 GMT
Is this a take of an English Forest fan? Of course you wouldn't care if he played for his national team. Unfortunately Brennan has most likely been advised poorly and has made the decision he has, obviously from a Wales perspective there needs to be repercussions for ditching the team otherwise others will think it's acceptable. As for Forests relegation battle and any player staying to fight to go back up, that never happens unfortunately. If an offer comes in from the prem he will leave, happens at every relegated club every year. Yes i am an english Forest fan but my wife comes from Wales and i will try to give a balanced reply to your question. I have been a season ticket holder for about 50 years at Forest, i have no connection with the England team because none of our players are playing for the national side so results do not interest me. i look out for results of all our international players. If you think Forest have been unfair to Wales over Brennans absence i am going to give you something to think about. When players play play apart in a national side reaching and playing at a major tournament the club can receive a large substantial pay out from either uefa/fifa. It is also a benefit to any club having international players by being able to promote them for things like shirt sales and match tickets the real extremes being the likes of ronaldo & messi. My main gripe is over the way Brennan was treated at the World Cup as i was looking forward to seeing him play and as he was not picked my wife and i i decided not to watch the matches. As for your statement about players always leaving when relegated 2 come to mind in the last couple of seasons who were their clubs main men as i think you would agree Brennan is Forest main man they are Mitro of Fulham & Pukki Norwich He probably should have felt aggrieved not to have gotten afew more minutes at the World cup, but he isn't the manager and hadn't really broken into our side through the qualifying etc. Through which James, Bale and Moore had all played pretty well. To be fair I'm not criticising Forest as they are just doing what is in their interest, but it is down to the player whether he plays or not. As a national team we cannot go back to players dropping out as and when they feel like it/are told to. To be fair I was surprised Mitrovic wasn't picked up by someone, but there appeared to be little interest. I don't think that the rest of the two sides had a great deal of premier league level talent though especially not someone the calibre of Johnson at only 21 (I think if you go down you would need some luck to keep him). |
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 26, 2023 16:18:56 GMT
I hope a trend doesn't develop here. Anyway, we've got others, I love Brennan but if he's not there for whatever reason (personally I'd be coming out myself and explaining it rather than this being left somewhat in the dark) a door opens for somebody else. And so it did, Nathan Broadhead, come on down  |
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