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Post by merthyrred88 on May 3, 2015 12:16:24 GMT
given the recent success of players like Chester, Dummett and Taylor getting welsh caps and other players born outside of wales making it into the age grade teams. id like to know what other players out there are eligible to play for wales or who could be in the future
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Post by ch7 on May 3, 2015 13:33:08 GMT
Taylor? Neil? as in Ruthin born and raised Neil Taylor?
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 3, 2015 13:42:06 GMT
Jake Taylor from Reading, he was born in Ascot
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Post by rob on May 3, 2015 13:55:37 GMT
Louis Thompson who signed for Norwich from Swindon in Jan.
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Post by bale-droed on May 3, 2015 18:39:59 GMT
Tarw Sheet was born in pwllhelli but raised in Glasgow so atm is part of Partick Thistles team and Scotland under 19s despite his name
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Post by ae15 on May 4, 2015 8:56:21 GMT
What about that Ash Taylor at Aberdeen? People seem to rate him pretty highly, but appears as if Scotland want him now anyway.
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 4, 2015 12:01:19 GMT
you only have to live here for three years to be eligible to play for Wales! Surrely the FAW needs to be looking to adopt a policy like this
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Post by ystradwales on May 4, 2015 12:19:35 GMT
you only have to live here for three years to be eligible to play for Wales! Surrely the FAW needs to be looking to adopt a policy like this No the 4 home nations have a policy of only picking players who were born in a county, both parents country of birth and county of birth of the 4 sets of grandparents. The rules were changed a few years again to allow players who have had 5 years compulsory education to represent a home nation |
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Post by mrpicton79 on May 4, 2015 14:34:46 GMT
you only have to live here for three years to be eligible to play for Wales! Surrely the FAW needs to be looking to adopt a policy like this No the 4 home nations have a policy of only picking players who were born in a county, both parents country of birth and county of birth of the 4 sets of grandparents. The rules were changed a few years again to allow players who have had 5 years compulsory education to represent a home nation |
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Post by ystradwales on May 4, 2015 14:43:47 GMT
No the 4 home nations have a policy of only picking players who were born in a county, both parents country of birth and county of birth of the 4 sets of grandparents. The rules were changed a few years again to allow players who have had 5 years compulsory education to represent a home nation What part of my post is bullsh@t? I do not appreciate your post |
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Post by mrpicton79 on May 4, 2015 16:19:34 GMT
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Post by Tim P on May 4, 2015 16:34:20 GMT
Eddie Ruck-Spin at Chicago Fire is a possibility. Could be a solution at centre-back given his size (he came through college (US) football and had trials with the Chicago Bears).
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Post by ystradwales on May 4, 2015 16:36:44 GMT
Yes exactly if your grandparents were born in 4 different countries you'd be qualified to represent each country. The hierarchy of qualification is Players country of birth Mother or fathers county of birth Country of birth for a persons 4 grandparents (so potentially 4 different countries) So in relation to country of birth there are 7 ways a players can qualify to play for a country And in the home nations 5 years compulsory education before the age of 18 |
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Post by walesaway on May 4, 2015 17:17:52 GMT
Tarw Sheet was born in pwllhelli but raised in Glasgow so atm is part of Partick Thistles team and Scotland under 19s despite his name Have to admit that I fell for that one. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on May 4, 2015 19:03:43 GMT
Yes exactly if your grandparents were born in 4 different countries you'd be qualified to represent each country. The hierarchy of qualification is Players country of birth Mother or fathers county of birth Country of birth for a persons 4 grandparents And in the home nations 5 years compulsory education before the age of 18 Doesn't say anything in the link about 5 years education before 18. We're affiliated to FIFA, surely we operate under the same rules as everbody else..? |
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Post by nathan1710 on May 4, 2015 20:47:19 GMT
Yes exactly if your grandparents were born in 4 different countries you'd be qualified to represent each country. The hierarchy of qualification is Players country of birth Mother or fathers county of birth Country of birth for a persons 4 grandparents And in the home nations 5 years compulsory education before the age of 18 Doesn't say anything in the link about 5 years education before 18. We're affiliated to FIFA, surely we operate under the same rules as everbody else..? Mate you clearly know fuck all about international football. If you're going to storm in here with your opinions at least make sure they are accurate. Probably just a fucking bandwagoner anyway. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on May 4, 2015 22:11:38 GMT
Doesn't say anything in the link about 5 years education before 18. We're affiliated to FIFA, surely we operate under the same rules as everbody else..? Mate you clearly know fuck all about international football. If you're going to storm in here with your opinions at least make sure they are accurate. Probably just a fucking bandwagoner anyway. Relax man, when I googled international eligibility rules the link in the earlier post ^^ was the first thing that came up, didn't mention anything about the home nations agreement. |
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Post by bale-droed on May 5, 2015 7:15:35 GMT
Shawcross - - Raised in Wales, turned us down (prick) Ben Turner - Qualifies through a Grandparent turned us down as he doesn't feel Welsh (fair enough) Karl Darlow - Not interested at this time it seems like he might of turned us down not confirmed though but it's assumed.His Grandad was a Welsh goalkeeper. Johnathan Bond - Played under 19s switched to England (Prick) Lloyd Jones - Played under 19's switched to England (Prick) Sanchez Watt - Welsh Mother turned our youth down a few ago isn't good enough atm anyway Danny Webber - Ex Prem player now at Salford become eligible in 2009 but not good enough anymore Kenny Thompson - A Belgium born player playing in the Belgian league with a Welsh Mother he's getting old...We probably always had better anyway A few Who knock about in the USA leagues who have welsh heritage but aren't good enough such as Kyle Davies and Patrick Otte. Bret Pitman - Championship striker born in channel islnds so can play for any uk team but hasn't decided yet, there was rumors a years ago though. There's also another player from Jersey in championship/league one but can't remember his name. Ritchie Jones - Was knocking about the English lower leagues, He was ex Man Utd ow 29 and in Canada but he is eligible but obviously not good enough now. There is others as well like Cliff Jones's grandson but only the first few I named would be good enough anyway. Hope this is of interest to you. Welcome to the forum There's also Marley Watkins born in Lewisham he was raised in Swansea and plays for Inverness and of course the world class David Jones of Burnley A thread a few years ago on here suggested Mark Randall Gary Hooper was once thought to be eligible www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/17016537 |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 8:27:10 GMT
Bret Pitman is the name that sticks out there, just looked at his stats and it appears that he has been a regular for Bournemouth and scored 14 goals. Dont think he would set the world alight at international level but given our lack of options I wonder if it would be worth trying to get him on board now we have the leverage that we are doing alright?
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 5, 2015 11:03:31 GMT
What about Rhys Healy has anyone heard anymore about his eligibility?
Also heard a rumour Tyler Roberts could get capped to stop him getting picked up by England looks a really good youngster
Shame we can't call on players like Joe Ralls been at Cardiff few years and starting to come good I know he's been capped at 21 level for England but could of been a good back up in our squad
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Post by flynnfan on May 5, 2015 11:12:59 GMT
you only have to live here for three years to be eligible to play for Wales! Surrely the FAW needs to be looking to adopt a policy like this The FAW doen't have the powere to do this. The rules in international football are very different to rugby union. There's no such thing as a 'residency' qualification in football. The likes of Costa and Deco are naturalized citizens of Spain/Portugal. There's no such thing as Welsh citizenship. And anyway, such a rule would be a disaster for us. All it would take is some agent getting in the ear of 15 year old Gareth Bale at Southampton, emphasizing the extra riches and profile available were he to chose England... it's already happening it rugby union it seems... www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/two-wales-brightest-u20-rugby-8786109 |
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 5, 2015 11:13:20 GMT
Think Karl Darlow would be a good addition to if he changes his mind! Could be a starter for Newcastle next season if Tim Krul leaves
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 5, 2015 11:16:27 GMT
It happened with Lloyd Jones at Liverpool got told he'd make more money and his value would go up if he played for England
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Post by texan on May 5, 2015 11:54:19 GMT
Here's the home nations agreement as it stands, wording last updated in 2010: 1. A Player who, under the terms of art. 5, is eligible to represent more than one Association on account of his nationality, may play in an international match for one of these Associations only if, in addition to having the relevant nationality, he fulfils at least one of the following conditions:
a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
d) He has engaged in a minimum of five years education under the age of 18 within the territory of the relevant associationThe agreement as it stands has, for example, seen us denied the services of Angel Rangel and David Johnson (sob  ) and England of Adnan Januzaj [*], whilst its opened the door for Andy Dorman to step into the Wales set-up and Andrew Driver into the Scottish side. Taking it in a historical context, it would mean that Earnie now WOULD officially qualify for Wales (when he played for us in the early 00's he didn't actually qualify for us!) whilst Giggs would also qualify for England as well as his native Wales. [*]...even though the FA tried desperately to pretend via the mass media that the home nations agreement didn't exist and that a Januzaj switch WAS possible. Besides, even if it was, I don't recall at the time anyone bothering to ask whether old Adnan actually WANTED to switch! |
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Post by dayoo87 on May 5, 2015 12:39:01 GMT
Out of interest, where does it actually say that players from the Channel Islands (and presumably all other Crown Dependencies that don't have their own recognised national team i.e. Falkland Islands) can take their pick as to which home nation national team they play for?
The only Channel Islands players I can think of playing international football are Matt Le Tissier and Graeme Le Saux who both played for England, and from what I've read the FA's of the respective islands are treated as County Football Associations under the England FA system, which would seem to suggest that players born there are considered English for the sake of international football.
It would be great to have Bret Pitman qualify for us, just wanted to check we're not getting carried away!
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Post by matty on May 5, 2015 12:45:44 GMT
A question needs to be asked of Tom Heaton. Born in Chester, a youth at Wrexham...and a good keeper! I wonder if he qualifies?
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Post by merthyrred88 on May 5, 2015 13:33:55 GMT
I know Shawcross is a sore subject due his past with Ransey and turning us down in the past! But surely we have to try again he's not going to get in the England setup but he's a big upgrade on what we have!
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Post by JC on May 5, 2015 14:06:31 GMT
I know Shawcross is a sore subject due his past with Ransey and turning us down in the past! But surely we have to try again he's not going to get in the England setup but he's a big upgrade on what we have! No thanks. |
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Post by nathan1710 on May 5, 2015 21:13:20 GMT
I know Shawcross is a sore subject due his past with Ransey and turning us down in the past! But surely we have to try again he's not going to get in the England setup but he's a big upgrade on what we have! Hes nowhere near Ash Williams, and he's on par with Collins. James Chester is a better ball playing CB and so I Ben Davies. The only thing he has over JC and BD is height. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on May 5, 2015 21:37:48 GMT
I know Shawcross is a sore subject due his past with Ransey and turning us down in the past! But surely we have to try again he's not going to get in the England setup but he's a big upgrade on what we have! 'big upgrade'? not sure about that, we've never been stronger at the back than we are now, plenty of premiership quality back there. Could also see him getting sent off in a big game with one of his aggressive tackles, and of course Rambo doesn't like him. No go for me. |
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