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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 20:47:48 GMT
Most countries work on a local passport rule. It's only the home nations that bicker about grandparents between themselves.
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 15, 2020 20:49:52 GMT
I'm not here to cause an angry mob rule, just stating the eligibility rule should be scrapped. Also the likes of barnes sterling etc have been brought up in England from a very early age. Come through the English system which is different from playing for a country because of parents/grandparents. I think its unfair when one country works hard to develop young kids and another nation comes along and takes them away, I'm talking generally here I don’t necessarily agree with you but the main point is that the rules do exist as they are.The rights and wrongs of the rules are not the point of the thread so there’s little point in derailing the thread over something we’ve no control over. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Feb 16, 2020 14:16:33 GMT
I'm not here to cause an angry mob rule, just stating the eligibility rule should be scrapped. Also the likes of barnes sterling etc have been brought up in England from a very early age. Come through the English system which is different from playing for a country because of parents/grandparents. I think its unfair when one country works hard to develop young kids and another nation comes along and takes them away, I'm talking generally here See Karamoko Dembele |
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 16, 2020 15:27:56 GMT
I'm not here to cause an angry mob rule, just stating the eligibility rule should be scrapped. Also the likes of barnes sterling etc have been brought up in England from a very early age. Come through the English system which is different from playing for a country because of parents/grandparents. I think its unfair when one country works hard to develop young kids and another nation comes along and takes them away, I'm talking generally here So by using that logic I'm guessing that you think Gareth Bale should play for England? |
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Post by chislenko on Feb 16, 2020 16:32:00 GMT
I'm not here to cause an angry mob rule, just stating the eligibility rule should be scrapped. Also the likes of barnes sterling etc have been brought up in England from a very early age. Come through the English system which is different from playing for a country because of parents/grandparents. I think its unfair when one country works hard to develop young kids and another nation comes along and takes them away, I'm talking generally here See Karamoko Dembele And Owen "I love Canada" Hargreaves. |
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Post by bracklablue72 on Feb 16, 2020 20:49:35 GMT
I'm not here to cause an angry mob rule, just stating the eligibility rule should be scrapped. Also the likes of barnes sterling etc have been brought up in England from a very early age. Come through the English system which is different from playing for a country because of parents/grandparents. I think its unfair when one country works hard to develop young kids and another nation comes along and takes them away, I'm talking generally here So by using that logic I'm guessing that you think Gareth Bale should play for England? The irony is that the Sais tried to tap Bale up to play for them based on the fact that he has one English grandparent |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Feb 16, 2020 20:59:54 GMT
Can add ‘Cymry’ Rob Jones and Ryan Shawcross 🤢 to that list too. They also played Irishman Armstrong Oko-Flex in their youth teams even though he wasn’t actually eligible... frustrating how they think that they have the morale highground.
Also, they chased Almunia, Arteta and Nzonzi
On the actual point of this thread though, I’ve always wondered how Adam Davies qualifies for us, anyone know?
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 16, 2020 21:31:01 GMT
If you’re eligible, you’re eligible. I hate when the likes of Bond choose England but love when others come in and do well for Wales. Guess you just got to give and take on it.
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 16, 2020 23:57:39 GMT
I think Graham Kavanagh’s son, who is on Middlesbrough’s books, was born in Wales but obviously will be playing for Ireland if he’s any good.
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 17, 2020 10:10:20 GMT
Even though Jack Hendry clearly feels Scottish and only Scottish and even though he isn’t good enough for us he is still eligible. He’s had three caps but all Friendlies under the age of 23 so he could do a Declan Rice if he wanted
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 10:16:51 GMT
There's a right mix of accents in our age group sides. You'd never know it was a national team setup.
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Post by junecymru on Feb 17, 2020 10:30:50 GMT
Kyle John, 19 year old Right back at Everton eligible for us.
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Post by junecymru on Feb 17, 2020 10:32:41 GMT
Anybody know if Kyle Edwards from West Brom and opi Edwards from Bristol are eligible
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 17, 2020 10:51:38 GMT
Kyle John, 19 year old Right back at Everton eligible for us. Nice one. I didn’t know that |
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 18, 2020 12:40:41 GMT
www.transfermarkt.com/rhys-williams/profil/spieler/503679 Surely he’s eligible with that name Newcastle United’s Karl Darlow is 100% eligible en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Darlow his grandfather was in the 1958 squad Rostyn Griffiths of Melbourne City is eligible but will of course never come near the squad. Australian born Ryan Williams (brother of former Wales under 21 Rhys) who is playing in Indonesia is also eligible but much like Rostyn will come nowhere near the squad Ben Turner who’s is now 32 was eligible for us but turned us down
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Post by 1gwaunview on Feb 18, 2020 16:13:33 GMT
www.transfermarkt.com/rhys-williams/profil/spieler/503679 Surely he’s eligible with that name Newcastle United’s Karl Darlow is 100% eligible en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Darlow his grandfather was in the 1958 squad Rostyn Griffiths of Melbourne City is eligible but will of course never come near the squad. Australian born Ryan Williams (brother of former Wales under 21 Rhys) who is playing in Indonesia is also eligible but much like Rostyn will come nowhere near the squad Ben Turner who’s is now 32 was eligible for us but turned us down According to Wiki he's (Darlow) turned us down twice, we don't really need another Dummett type. |
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Post by robin1864 on Feb 18, 2020 16:21:05 GMT
I reckon Giggs should get in touch with Jarrod Bowen. Might be nothing more to it, but we could have a ready-made Cotterill replacement if things work out well.
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Post by welwyn on Feb 18, 2020 17:08:00 GMT
I reckon Giggs should get in touch with Jarrod Bowen. Might be nothing more to it, but we could have a ready-made Cotterill replacement if things work out well. Already looked into him. Not eligible. |
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Post by robin1864 on Feb 18, 2020 17:21:24 GMT
I reckon Giggs should get in touch with Jarrod Bowen. Might be nothing more to it, but we could have a ready-made Cotterill replacement if things work out well. Already looked into him. Not eligible. Bugger, that would have been some scalp. |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Feb 18, 2020 19:51:28 GMT
I reckon Giggs should get in touch with Jarrod Bowen. Might be nothing more to it, but we could have a ready-made Cotterill replacement if things work out well. He was on Palace,s radar in the transfer window but went to that basket case of a club West Ham. Impressed me when I saw him play against Palace for Hull though. |
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Post by junecymru on Feb 18, 2020 23:10:52 GMT
I reckon Giggs should get in touch with Jarrod Bowen. Might be nothing more to it, but we could have a ready-made Cotterill replacement if things work out well. He was on Palace,s radar in the transfer window but went to that basket case of a club West Ham. Impressed me when I saw him play against Palace for Hull though. not eligible unfortunately was looked into in 2017, I’m also aware that; Tom Davies, Curtis Jones and Brandon Williams are not eligible. |
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Post by iot on Feb 19, 2020 10:09:22 GMT
He was on Palace,s radar in the transfer window but went to that basket case of a club West Ham. Impressed me when I saw him play against Palace for Hull though. not eligible unfortunately was looked into in 2017, I’m also aware that; Tom Davies, Curtis Jones and Brandon Williams are not eligible. And Will Hughes. Him and Jarrod Bowen are always brought up |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 10:13:11 GMT
I think its amazing the dual nationality players we have picked up over the last years,some real quality,but lets not turn completely into the republic of Ireland.
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Post by junecymru on Feb 23, 2020 13:00:15 GMT
Todd Cantwell, welsh middle name and his mother has a welsh second name (Owen) maybe could be an eligible player. 9 goal contributions this season for Norwich in the prem. can play as a attacking midfielder or winger.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 23, 2020 16:11:24 GMT
Todd Cantwell, welsh middle name and his mother has a welsh second name (Owen) maybe could be an eligible player. 9 goal contributions this season for Norwich in the prem. can play as a attacking midfielder or winger. Google says his uncle Kevin Owen is from Norfolk, so I'd doubt any connections. |
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Post by barneycat1 on Feb 23, 2020 17:11:44 GMT
Jordan Garrick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:49:23 GMT
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Post by barneycat1 on Feb 23, 2020 17:59:07 GMT
Would he be eligible after 5 years in Wales? Next year? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 19:53:03 GMT
Would he be eligible after 5 years in Wales? Next year? Don't think FIFA's 5 year residency rule applies between the home nations. It's for naturalised citizenship and Garrick's British with a UK passport whether he lives in England or Wales. "The associations of these four countries entered an agreement regarding international eligibility in 1993 which provides that a player holding a British passport is eligible to play for the country of his birth, the country of the birth of either of his natural parents or the country of birth of any of his natural grandparents. If the player, his natural parents and his natural grandparents were born outside the U.K., he may play for the home country of his choice. Our understanding is that once a player has played for one of the home countries, even if it is only a friendly match, the 1993 agreement precludes him playing for another home country. The FIFA rule change for players under 21 must be followed in the U.K., however. Under U.K. law, a player (or anyone, for that matter) who was born abroad becomes eligible for a British passport after five years of lawful residence in the country, and he thus becomes eligible to play for one of the home countries provided he has not played for another national side in official competition." www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamBack/Eligibiliy.html |
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Post by barneycat1 on Feb 23, 2020 20:00:14 GMT
Would he be eligible after 5 years in Wales? Next year? Don't think FIFA's 5 year residency rule applies between the home nations. It's for naturalised citizenship and Garrick's British with a UK passport whether he lives in England or Wales. "The associations of these four countries entered an agreement regarding international eligibility in 1993 which provides that a player holding a British passport is eligible to play for the country of his birth, the country of the birth of either of his natural parents or the country of birth of any of his natural grandparents. If the player, his natural parents and his natural grandparents were born outside the U.K., he may play for the home country of his choice. Our understanding is that once a player has played for one of the home countries, even if it is only a friendly match, the 1993 agreement precludes him playing for another home country. The FIFA rule change for players under 21 must be followed in the U.K., however. Under U.K. law, a player (or anyone, for that matter) who was born abroad becomes eligible for a British passport after five years of lawful residence in the country, and he thus becomes eligible to play for one of the home countries provided he has not played for another national side in official competition." www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamBack/Eligibiliy.htmlThat looks like he could play for any country within the UK anytime. |
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