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Post by bale-droed on Dec 27, 2022 21:40:52 GMT
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 27, 2022 21:50:31 GMT
What about Cedwyn Scott at Notts County? Born in England but with his first name must surely be some Welsh family. I know he's only playing at National League level but is 23 and has a good goal scoring record over the past 2 seasons Playing at a higher level than Morison and moore at his age. I would imagine as you do with a name like cedwyn he’s eligible but people name their children Dylan , Rhiannon and Arthur without a drop of welsh blood in them so who knows these days! |
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Post by welwyn on Dec 29, 2022 20:14:47 GMT
Just seen a Brooks on the Sheff Utd. bench...
...any relation??
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Post by dai on Dec 29, 2022 20:24:11 GMT
Just seen a Brooks on the Sheff Utd. bench... ...any relation?? If it's this guy, the chances are slim......but, not impossible I guess. |
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Post by talyfan on Dec 29, 2022 20:59:02 GMT
He's the absolute spit of David Brooks!
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Post by dai on Dec 29, 2022 22:24:42 GMT
He's the absolute spit of David Brooks! Uncanny isn't it? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 10, 2023 18:05:41 GMT
Anyone know the eligibility of Cardiff's Lewys Benjamin. U16, kept a clean sheet for the u21s today and was on the bench against Leeds
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Post by dragonsoccer on Jan 10, 2023 18:23:19 GMT
He is Welsh qualified (Bridgend) Top of my head without checking, not been in any Wales U15/U16 squads yet  |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 10, 2023 18:45:54 GMT
He is Welsh qualified (Bridgend) Top of my head without checking, not been in any Wales U15/U16 squads yet Diolch! |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jan 28, 2023 11:39:55 GMT
Has there been confirmation of Doug Tharme’s eligibility either way? Starting with Ryan Astley vs Leeds in the FA Cup on the BBC.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 28, 2023 14:11:48 GMT
Has there been confirmation of Doug Tharme’s eligibility either way? Starting with Ryan Astley vs Leeds in the FA Cup on the BBC. Came here to ask that very question. Football Manager has him down as eligible! |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 28, 2023 22:32:43 GMT
Bryn Morris from Grimsby? He's getting on a bit and in League Two but curious as he had a good youth career for England.
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Post by gimli on Feb 10, 2023 11:09:05 GMT
Really hope this guy makes it, if only for his name alone... Cai Glyn Bongiovanni-Hughes
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Post by saturn9 on Feb 10, 2023 19:14:10 GMT
His Father was interviewed on the wireless two weeks ago. If he makes the grade, has the option of Italy, Cymru or the shackle draggers. His preferred choice was??
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 12, 2023 11:37:59 GMT
FAW confirmed last September Luke Harris qualfies for Wales thru his grandparent (not told thru which line)
Will check out Callum and Luca
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 12, 2023 12:46:57 GMT
The FAW would have to show evidence, If FIFA ‘took countries word for it’ there’d be all sorts of abuses going on.
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 12, 2023 14:07:56 GMT
None of them would qualify for norn Ireland if any of them have a parent or grandparent born from another home nation. For example Le tissier and Le Saux were both from Channel Islands. Le tissier couldve chosen any of the 4 as he/ his parents and his grandparents were all born in Guernsey. Le Saux was born there and his parents but 2 of his grandparents were from England so he could only play for England. If a player is from the Isle of Man or the Falklands it’s also the same rules. As for Scotland they did pursue Le tissier and in the past wales has pursued Bret pitman along with Scotland and Northern Ireland so it’s not just wales. Everyone has courted channel islanders. Basically you could be born and raised in jersey , and your parents and 3 grandparents but if one grandparent was born in Dundee you could only play for Scotland en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Waterman From Jersey played for Northern Ireland youth because of mother en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Tardif Another one who played for Northern Ireland youth from Guernsey. A current footballer from Guernsey who plays for England born 2003 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Scott_(footballer,_born_2003) (DS is he Welsh eligible) Another Guernsey born who played for England en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Le_Flemen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan-Zico_Black Born Guernsey played for Northern Ireland as father born there Probably lots of others. EDIT: this post was made in reply to a posters question but as usual another moderator starting deleting and moving posters questions And answers around and now it looks out of place. |
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 12, 2023 14:44:54 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 12, 2023 18:48:57 GMT
Eligibility rules are interesting re Luke Harris There are three lads all Jersey born with Fulham and all three are also with Wales Luke Harris (2005 born) - Irish Grandmother in interviews he is not very clear just says my Dads is on the Welsh side he is never specific about a grandmother or a grandfather. In one interview for Fulham he said my Dad supports Welsh teams Callum Osmand (2005 born)- Jersey born - father born in Jersey mother born in Sheffield Luca Picotto (2007 born) Jersey born - father born in Italy Mother born in Jersey Are wales going to say all three lads have Welsh grandparents? The Head Scout of Fulham Malcolm Elias is Welsh and sends all the Jersey born players in the direction of wales Do Wales have to show documentary proof of Welsh Grandparents or do UEFA simply take their word for it? How are all three qualifying under the international youth set up is it the home grown rule with channel islanders? The FAW would have to show evidence, If FIFA ‘took countries word for it’ there’d be all sorts of abuses going on. Nah I'm pretty sure we only got Ampadu and Brooks because we said to FIFA "trust me bro" and they said "seems legit" and gave us the green light |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 12, 2023 19:39:32 GMT
dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1527150283&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4link above has many players listed with grandparent (s) - I post the confirmation when I get it confirmed from sources (from FAW and direct from players/parent) Was "double checked" and confirmed in September 2022 Harris qualifies for Wales under FIFA heritage regulations (confirmation direct to myself from the FAW as grandparent) Regardless of any interviews with the player etc he qualfies under this regulation - Article 6 "His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant association" Grandparent to be means 1 of the 4 granparents are Welsh born
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 12, 2023 19:43:46 GMT
Just had an update from FAW regarding regulations - Harris / Callum Osmand / Luca Pccotto
just putting it all together
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 12, 2023 19:50:23 GMT
There were changes mooted to the "Home Nations agreement" which have now been clarified by FIFA
So this now the case
Luke Harris - eligible - paternal grandmother born in Cardiff
Callum Osmand and Luca Picotto are both ineligible (Under FIFA regulations) - having being involved in Boys/Youth squads
so reading between the lines
unless other channel islanders have welsh heritage they will be ineligible for Wales
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Feb 12, 2023 20:56:30 GMT
Not like England to stage a land grab!
Thanks for clarifying. That is gutting news. Who’s to say that those Channel Islanders would rather ‘feel’ English over Welsh, Scottish etc. Particularly those who are/were in our youth set-up already. Very poor from Fifa.
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 12, 2023 21:20:34 GMT
I think it's as the English FA fund football there. Fairly certain Guernsey play in the English pyramid
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 12, 2023 23:21:20 GMT
There were changes mooted to the "Home Nations agreement" which have now been clarified by FIFA So this now the case Luke Harris - eligible - paternal grandmother born in Cardiff Callum Osmand and Luca Picotto are both ineligible (Under FIFA regulations) - having being involved in Boys/Youth squads so reading between the lines unless other channel islanders have welsh heritage they will be ineligible for Wales Great stuff DS Also I know you’re a busy guy but would you ever be able to explain how Toto Nsisla is eligible for us? I’ve wondered for over a decade and tried to work it out. Born in Congo but eligible for England, Wales, Scotland, N ire and Congo. But we got rid of the passport holder born abroad rule years ago. If we hadn’t of gotten rid of that rule someone like Leroy Lita would’ve been eligible for us. I personally 100% understand the Channel Islands rules and other rules regarding crown dependencies but how on earth does Toto Nsisla qualify ? |
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Post by chief on Feb 13, 2023 23:55:53 GMT
Does the new ruling have implications on military base born footballers? Eric Young, Adam Davies? Etc
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 15, 2023 6:36:40 GMT
Does the new ruling have implications on military base born footballers? Eric Young, Adam Davies? Etc The rules aren’t that new in regards to the passport abroad rule it was changed at least 15 years ago. Adam Davies qualifies for us as he has a Welsh parent. It’s why his middle name is Rhys. Now players born abroad with a british passport qualify to play for a country based on the reasons for obtaining the passport. So if a child is born on a military base to a Scottish father with Scottish parents and a Welsh Mother with Welsh parents he would be eligible for The country of his birth, /Scotland/ Wales and not England or Northern Ireland. Under the new rules we would never of had Young and Northern Ireland wouldn’t of had Maik Taylor. To qualify for Wales you need: Born in Wales Parent born in Wales Grandparent born in Wales 5 years of education in Wales before the age of 16 If you were born in the falklands or Trista de Cunha and so were your parents and grandparents then you’d probably have a choice of all 4 home nations but if one parent or grandparent came from a home nation you could only choose that home nation. If a Soldier in the Falklands from England who had English parents got someone from the falklands pregnant the kid could play for England. This is why on a personal level I cannot understand how Aristote (Toto) Nsisla qualifies for Wales, Scotland, England and Congo. He must have one of the most interesting paths for qualifying for 3 home nations involving schooling etc must be one hell of a story! |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 15, 2023 7:39:20 GMT
Slight amendment to
Parent born in Wales
"biological mother or biological father was born in Wales"
Nsiala - just doing some checks
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 15, 2023 8:53:49 GMT
Bit of back research
“Brian Flynn, has named the Under 19 Squad for North Wales Training Camp, 27th – 31st July 2009”
Nsiala was selected for that camp – and was not selected again from what I can see
The U19s then played Malta in Sept 2009 (2 friendlies)
Chatting with a contact this morning, he remembers it being a selection based on regulations back then – and maybe seeing if he could represent Wales
So I will keep it on the database as is , thats all i know for now
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 15, 2023 9:09:24 GMT
I also remember that camp. It always seemed strange. Born Zaire, lived in France from 96-02 moved To England as a youngster so he got the schooling so he qualifies for England that way but then there’s claims he can play for Scotland and Wales but not Northern Ireland so if that was him saying that he couldn’t be going the passport route unless he just forgot about Norn Ireland. Fascinating stuff for myself anyway! So thanks a lot for checking
And in regards to the biological parent confirmation above that’s good because we don’t want to end up with an embarrassing tony Cascarino situation!
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