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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 8, 2023 17:22:36 GMT
Agree with all of that. Supporting the Lions (not that I am passionate about doing so) and supporting the England cricket team, are two very different things. Personally, I grew up supporting the West Indies but have no connection to the Caribbean. The Lions fit the middle class UK narrative perfectly I suppose, so go for your life boys. Count me out thanks. Please explain how the Lions fit the middle class UK narrative. |
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Post by iantov on Nov 8, 2023 17:28:00 GMT
Welsh rugby supporters get very passionate about the British & Irish Lions. Something I’ve never really understood, but all the evidence I need that football & rugby fans are quite different. I like rugby and like the Lions. The Lions are an invitational side where Wales is equally represented amongst 3 others. The Lions also in no way threaten the existence of Wales as a rugby nation. Cricket is different. I'm not a cricket fan, but the fact that the England and Wales Cricket Board is known as the ECB, plays as England and plays with 3 Lions on the shirt is an afront to Wales. Any so called Welshman that supports England in Cricket is a Dic Sion Dafydd as best. Well said. I once went to watch Eng v Pak and I certainly wasn't supporting England which the Pakistan supporters couldn't understand at all!  |
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 8, 2023 20:15:36 GMT
Welsh rugby supporters get very passionate about the British & Irish Lions. Something I’ve never really understood, but all the evidence I need that football & rugby fans are quite different. It's the hypocrisy of it I don't like or understand. People in rugby clubs up and down Wales every six nations throw insults at Farrell and co yet they then just switch all that off and cheer them on every 4 years. It's just weird. |
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Post by caeboy on Nov 8, 2023 20:42:19 GMT
I'm a rugby supported and while I can't get excited about the Lions, the Lions isn't the UK, it's 4 separate rugby nations including a united Ireland (no Union Jacks, No GSTQ dirge) Wales is equal to the other countries and is recognised on the Lion's crest.
The England Cricket team incorporating Wales on the other hand is the devil's work.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 8, 2023 21:23:40 GMT
Welsh rugby supporters get very passionate about the British & Irish Lions. Something I’ve never really understood, but all the evidence I need that football & rugby fans are quite different. It's the hypocrisy of it I don't like or understand. People in rugby clubs up and down Wales every six nations throw insults at Farrell and co yet they then just switch all that off and cheer them on every 4 years. It's just weird. It's no different to cheering on the Barbarians. It's a fun invitational side where Wales are represented as equals and it usually serves up some very high quality sport. If a British and Irish football team got together once every 4 years, had about 30% Welsh players in it on merit, played in red, didn't have an anthem, didn't undermine the Welsh team, and went on tour against the best teams in the world then I'd probably watch it. Also, it's not hypocrisy to leave aside petty rivalries after the game is over. Football could learn from that imo. |
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 9, 2023 1:50:50 GMT
It's the hypocrisy of it I don't like or understand. People in rugby clubs up and down Wales every six nations throw insults at Farrell and co yet they then just switch all that off and cheer them on every 4 years. It's just weird. It's no different to cheering on the Barbarians. It's a fun invitational side where Wales are represented as equals and it usually serves up some very high quality sport. If a British and Irish football team got together once every 4 years, had about 30% Welsh players in it on merit, played in red, didn't have an anthem, didn't undermine the Welsh team, and went on tour against the best teams in the world then I'd probably watch it. Also, it's not hypocrisy to leave aside petty rivalries after the game is over. Football could learn from that imo. The fans that embarrassingly yell utter vile at the TV in rugby clubhouses across Wales anytime at certain English players are on tv to then "support" them are absolute idiots. Stockholm syndrome. |
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Post by bracklablue72 on Nov 9, 2023 7:40:07 GMT
It's the hypocrisy of it I don't like or understand. People in rugby clubs up and down Wales every six nations throw insults at Farrell and co yet they then just switch all that off and cheer them on every 4 years. It's just weird. It's no different to cheering on the Barbarians. It's a fun invitational side where Wales are represented as equals and it usually serves up some very high quality sport. If a British and Irish football team got together once every 4 years, had about 30% Welsh players in it on merit, played in red, didn't have an anthem, didn't undermine the Welsh team, and went on tour against the best teams in the world then I'd probably watch it. Also, it's not hypocrisy to leave aside petty rivalries after the game is over. Football could learn from that imo. The Lions don’t bother/offend me but I get the hypocracy involved with some fans.I really don’t get ‘Welsh’ rugby fans wearing lions jerseys to a Wales game in support of Wales.it’s almost like they think that this Wales/Britain thing is interchangeable… weird to me that is. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 9, 2023 8:27:22 GMT
It's no different to cheering on the Barbarians. It's a fun invitational side where Wales are represented as equals and it usually serves up some very high quality sport. If a British and Irish football team got together once every 4 years, had about 30% Welsh players in it on merit, played in red, didn't have an anthem, didn't undermine the Welsh team, and went on tour against the best teams in the world then I'd probably watch it. Also, it's not hypocrisy to leave aside petty rivalries after the game is over. Football could learn from that imo. The fans that embarrassingly yell utter vile at the TV in rugby clubhouses across Wales anytime at certain English players are on tv to then "support" them are absolute idiots. Stockholm syndrome. And Wales fans wouldn't support Kevin De Bruyne if he played for their club after abusing him at the Belgium games? Personally, I think anyone abusing an opposition player, in any sport, in person or on TV, is a very silly billy. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Nov 9, 2023 8:27:56 GMT
It's no different to cheering on the Barbarians. It's a fun invitational side where Wales are represented as equals and it usually serves up some very high quality sport. If a British and Irish football team got together once every 4 years, had about 30% Welsh players in it on merit, played in red, didn't have an anthem, didn't undermine the Welsh team, and went on tour against the best teams in the world then I'd probably watch it. Also, it's not hypocrisy to leave aside petty rivalries after the game is over. Football could learn from that imo. The Lions don’t bother/offend me but I get the hypocracy involved with some fans.I really don’t get ‘Welsh’ rugby fans wearing lions jerseys to a Wales game in support of Wales.it’s almost like they think that this Wales/Britain thing is interchangeable… weird to me that is. Yeah, anyone wearing a Lions shirt to a Wales game is a bell end. |
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 9, 2023 13:32:53 GMT
The fans that embarrassingly yell utter vile at the TV in rugby clubhouses across Wales anytime at certain English players are on tv to then "support" them are absolute idiots. Stockholm syndrome. And Wales fans wouldn't support Kevin De Bruyne if he played for their club after abusing him at the Belgium games? Personally, I think anyone abusing an opposition player, in any sport, in person or on TV, is a very silly billy. Well most Welsh football fans sing yma o hyd and then proudly support an English team in a city they never go to. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 10, 2023 1:42:44 GMT
Welsh boxer Joe Cordina defended his world title in Monte Carlo on Saturday. 17 wins from 17 fights. Just watched it back, very close fight. Scored it 116-114 for Cordina but honestly some of those rounds were very difficult to score, and there were probably about 4 maybe 5 swing rounds that could have gone either way Nevertheless a great outcome! |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 10, 2023 7:49:08 GMT
And Wales fans wouldn't support Kevin De Bruyne if he played for their club after abusing him at the Belgium games? Personally, I think anyone abusing an opposition player, in any sport, in person or on TV, is a very silly billy. Well most Welsh football fans sing yma o hyd and then proudly support an English team in a city they never go to. Do they? I would think the majority of match going fans, if they support a football club, probably go to games and the majority of them will be Welsh, majority the 5 English-league but also Welsh pyramid. |
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 10, 2023 8:42:28 GMT
Well most Welsh football fans sing yma o hyd and then proudly support an English team in a city they never go to. Do they? I would think the majority of match going fans, if they support a football club, probably go to games and the majority of them will be Welsh, majority the 5 English-league but also Welsh pyramid. Yeah I retract that. Shouldn't of used the word most. I'll change it to a quarter to a third 👍 |
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Post by bracklablue72 on Nov 10, 2023 11:38:50 GMT
Do they? I would think the majority of match going fans, if they support a football club, probably go to games and the majority of them will be Welsh, majority the 5 English-league but also Welsh pyramid. Yeah I retract that. Shouldn't of used the word most. I'll change it to a quarter to a third 👍 There are still a sizeable contingent of plastic Mancs/scousers |
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Post by surge on Nov 10, 2023 12:11:21 GMT
Welsh boxer Joe Cordina defended his world title in Monte Carlo on Saturday. 17 wins from 17 fights. Just watched it back, very close fight. Scored it 116-114 for Cordina but honestly some of those rounds were very difficult to score, and there were probably about 4 maybe 5 swing rounds that could have gone either way Nevertheless a great outcome! I was surprised by the venue set-up but I suppose a Las Vegas fight is a Las Vegas fight even in a lesser heralded venue. Hopefully a jumping off point to bigger and better things. |
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 11, 2023 12:26:04 GMT
Just watched it back, very close fight. Scored it 116-114 for Cordina but honestly some of those rounds were very difficult to score, and there were probably about 4 maybe 5 swing rounds that could have gone either way Nevertheless a great outcome! I was surprised by the venue set-up but I suppose a Las Vegas fight is a Las Vegas fight even in a lesser heralded venue. Hopefully a jumping off point to bigger and better things. I said it in the Welsh boxing thread but I honestly think Cordina is coming to the end now and everything is getting geared for a Cardiff City Stadium farewell fight. Physically he looks awful at the weight, worse with every weigh in, it's just completely unnatural to be doing that to your body. If Cordina loses a fight it's the weight cut that beats him, he's an absolutely top drawer operator, there were moments against Rakhimov where I was shaking my head in disbelief with some of the little things he was doing. |
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Post by hooky on Jan 12, 2024 23:00:22 GMT
WSPOY Emma Finucane wins the European cycling sprint (first British woman to do so) to add to her world crown. Set up nicely for her at the Olympics!
The women's team pursuit won silver - 3 of 4 riders were Welsh
Then you have up and coming incredible young talents Zoe Backstedt and Josh Tarlin
Amazing!
They should get far more of a spotlight for their achievements.
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 16, 2024 15:07:39 GMT
WTF is going on with Welsh rugby?
It's now two youngsters (so far) have switched to England, LRZ is off to try and make it in the NFL which would've been like Bale retiring at 25 for golf and there's rumors of Welsh teams leaving URC English premiership in 2025. Fuck me
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Post by hooky on Jan 16, 2024 16:03:58 GMT
WTF is going on? Well the fuckwits in the WRU have totally wrecked Welsh rugby that's what! The only good thing about Welsh rugby falling off the cliff is that it will take that useless organisation down with it!
A coach on big bucks who does not talk to one of the most promising young wingers in Britain, who is Welsh, while he is on holiday in New Zealand, while England and their coach regularly engage and persuade the youngster to join them is one example. Its not normal - the tiny country is supposed to fight for everything they can get.
Total joke! The WRU are supposed to be the custodians of Welsh rugby not its undertaker! To think many on here complain about the FAW and its leader! Look at what bad really looks like!
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 16, 2024 17:13:12 GMT
WTF is going on? Well the fuckwits in the WRU have totally wrecked Welsh rugby that's what! The only good thing about Welsh rugby falling off the cliff is that it will take that useless organisation down with it! A coach on big bucks who does not talk to one of the most promising young wingers in Britain, who is Welsh, while he is on holiday in New Zealand, while England and their coach regularly engage and persuade the youngster to join them is one example. Its not normal - the tiny country is supposed to fight for everything they can get. Total joke! The WRU are supposed to be the custodians of Welsh rugby not its undertaker! To think many on here complain about the FAW and its leader! Look at what bad really looks like! Are you that hookd character on Gwlad? |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 16, 2024 17:14:03 GMT
WTF is going on with Welsh rugby? It's now two youngsters (so far) have switched to England, LRZ is off to try and make it in the NFL which would've been like Bale retiring at 25 for golf and there's rumors of Welsh teams leaving URC English premiership in 2025. Fuck me The AW league should be pursued extremely hard. |
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Post by hooky on Jan 16, 2024 18:02:49 GMT
WTF is going on? Well the fuckwits in the WRU have totally wrecked Welsh rugby that's what! The only good thing about Welsh rugby falling off the cliff is that it will take that useless organisation down with it! A coach on big bucks who does not talk to one of the most promising young wingers in Britain, who is Welsh, while he is on holiday in New Zealand, while England and their coach regularly engage and persuade the youngster to join them is one example. Its not normal - the tiny country is supposed to fight for everything they can get. Total joke! The WRU are supposed to be the custodians of Welsh rugby not its undertaker! To think many on here complain about the FAW and its leader! Look at what bad really looks like! Are you that hookd character on Gwlad? Yep. As you will know I am well loved by a few posters on that board! |
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Post by hooky on Jan 16, 2024 18:07:26 GMT
WTF is going on with Welsh rugby? It's now two youngsters (so far) have switched to England, LRZ is off to try and make it in the NFL which would've been like Bale retiring at 25 for golf and there's rumors of Welsh teams leaving URC English premiership in 2025. Fuck me The AW league should be pursued extremely hard. Agree in principle. The problem is we are getting so depleted - what will be able to offer soon? The English clubs are now grabbing so many of our kids and turning some of them to Team England - if they end up gathering our best players and best prospects then why do they need us in a league with them They are such idiots that they don't realise that killing Welsh rugby is not exactly good for what is a minority sport after all and the 6 Nations. Its the same with women's rugby - why can't they offer a place or two to Welsh teams to help develop women's rugby in Wales. The only reason not to is small time self interest - we don't want to help our neighbour! Show's how much benefit being British is when it comes down to it! |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jan 16, 2024 18:24:56 GMT
The AW league should be pursued extremely hard. Agree in principle. The problem is we are getting so depleted - what will be able to offer soon? The English clubs are now grabbing so many of our kids and turning some of them to Team England - if they end up gathering our best players and best prospects then why do they need us in a league with them They are such idiots that they don't realise that killing Welsh rugby is not exactly good for what is a minority sport after all and the 6 Nations. Its the same with women's rugby - why can't they offer a place or two to Welsh teams to help develop women's rugby in Wales. The only reason not to is small time self interest - we don't want to help our neighbour! Show's how much benefit being British is when it comes down to it! Personally I look at the failings of the WRU before blaming the neighbours. |
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Post by hooky on Jan 16, 2024 18:38:05 GMT
Agree in principle. The problem is we are getting so depleted - what will be able to offer soon? The English clubs are now grabbing so many of our kids and turning some of them to Team England - if they end up gathering our best players and best prospects then why do they need us in a league with them They are such idiots that they don't realise that killing Welsh rugby is not exactly good for what is a minority sport after all and the 6 Nations. Its the same with women's rugby - why can't they offer a place or two to Welsh teams to help develop women's rugby in Wales. The only reason not to is small time self interest - we don't want to help our neighbour! Show's how much benefit being British is when it comes down to it! I totally agree that the mess is due primarily to the incompetence of the WRU, but England is not helping are they? They have a massive catchment (25x our playing pool) and do not need to be targeting our players, while involving 2-3 regions in their men's league and 1-2 Welsh teams in their women's league would in theory be a net benefit to them as it would add a bit of spice / interest. / |
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Post by dai on Jan 16, 2024 22:23:13 GMT
Seems to be a lot of speculation that he's going to fail at American Football, mainly because the highest level players have been coming through their systems since like high school, and even then, only a small percentage make it to the top.
I don't know though, LRZ is a naturally gifted athlete, so it wouldn't surprise me if he made the cross over successfully. Hell, I think he could be a professional footballer with the right training if he wanted to. Bale and Ramsey after all were said to be equally as good at rugby when in school etc.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 16, 2024 23:52:26 GMT
Terrible for Welsh Rugby, he was brilliant at times in the World Cup. This is a ridiculous situation, NFL! Thankfully I really don't care much for rugby, football and boxing are my two sports, Lauren Price and Joe Cordina flying the flag for us.
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Post by underwood on Jan 17, 2024 2:46:58 GMT
The AW league should be pursued extremely hard. Agree in principle. The problem is we are getting so depleted - what will be able to offer soon? The English clubs are now grabbing so many of our kids and turning some of them to Team England - if they end up gathering our best players and best prospects then why do they need us in a league with them They are such idiots that they don't realise that killing Welsh rugby is not exactly good for what is a minority sport after all and the 6 Nations. Its the same with women's rugby - why can't they offer a place or two to Welsh teams to help develop women's rugby in Wales. The only reason not to is small time self interest - we don't want to help our neighbour! Show's how much benefit being British is when it comes down to it! However all the Welsh Egg Chasers love the Lions as much as anything, so no harm done in the long term surely, as they are all on the same side ultimately. Or did I miss some rugby nuance somewhere? Stupid sport where all the chickens are now coming home to roost. |
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Post by pclaude on Jan 17, 2024 10:15:58 GMT
Terrible for Welsh Rugby, he was brilliant at times in the World Cup. This is a ridiculous situation, NFL! Thankfully I really don't care much for rugby, football and boxing are my two sports, Lauren Price and Joe Cordina flying the flag for us. I dont think it is too bad. He will likely just miss this 6N and the summer tour. And then be back. He is going to a 10 week camp. If he gets picked up, great. If he doesnt he will be at a French club in September and free to play for Wales. |
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 17, 2024 11:49:32 GMT
I strongly disagree with the comments about him being foolish/ failing and he'll be back. He's a tremendous athlete and he's going to excel on the return team or wide receiver role if he put on muscle. He's very fast.
One possible bonus is that millenium stadium might end up hosting an NFL game that could boost the economy one weekend.
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