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Post by marsvolta on Jan 18, 2023 0:28:15 GMT
I totally ignored the hype around him, having heard the exaggerated nonsense positive noise around Harris, who is not good enough However, Cooper has scored a few games now and two of the goals I was able to see demonstrated great technique. So he is definitely someone to consider now, especially given how weak we are in midfield! We don’t know that the positive hype around Harris is exaggerated or not yet as, other than a few fleeting appearances off the bench for Fulham, he hasn’t really started his career. It may have been a straight choice between them for the non-playing squad member slot in Qatar but main thing is we don’t have to choose between Harris and Cooper from now on, we can select them both, and I fully expect both to be in the squad for years to come. |
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Post by hooky on Jan 18, 2023 10:02:14 GMT
I was referring to Mark Harris. Point being that Cooper despite not playing as a forward but a midfielder is scoring more goals than Mark Harris. Not convinced he is Premier League standard but he could be useful I hope the Harris at Fulham kicks on but his club manager obviously does not trust him (at least at this moment) so I am getting a little less excited about him. Fulham is looking like a graveyard for young Welsh talent with all 3 of their Welsh players consigned to the bench. Neco has a similar fate at Forest  |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 18, 2023 11:46:37 GMT
I was referring to Mark Harris. Point being that Cooper despite not playing as a forward but a midfielder is scoring more goals than Mark Harris. Not convinced he is Premier League standard but he could be useful I hope the Harris at Fulham kicks on but his club manager obviously does not trust him (at least at this moment) so I am getting a little less excited about him. Fulham is looking like a graveyard for young Welsh talent with all 3 of their Welsh players consigned to the bench. Neco has a similar fate at Forest To be fair, Luke Harris is only 17 Fulham are going really well this season, can't really blame Silva for going with those players regularly. Wilson was unfortunate to get injured early on |
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 18, 2023 12:43:10 GMT
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You thought that there had been positive exaggerated hype around Mark Harris?
Seems a strange thing to say, he’s almost the one with the least hype. He seems to sneak into the squad unnoticed. Haha.
Other than Gunts and Jonny Williams I can’t think of another player who is first in the firing line to be dropped.
If we had to name a 23 man squad I reckon most would leave Harris out.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 18, 2023 12:46:56 GMT
Mark Harris gets loads of, mainly undeserved, stick. The way people go on you'd think he starts every game, when in reality he's a squad player who isn't really guaranteed a squad spot (he's been dropped plenty of times), I really don't get it. If you add up his minutes he hasn't even played 2 full games
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Post by GuntersLeftFoot on Jan 20, 2023 15:15:54 GMT
To bring this thread back on topic. If Cooper isnt in the next squad it will be a scandal. IMO he would be close to the starting 11, probably 3rd behind allen and ampadu.
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Post by iot on Jan 20, 2023 15:32:35 GMT
Definitely a strong case for him to be in the squad, but the last bit of your post makes no sense. As an attacking midfielder, he won't be competing with Allen and Ampadu for a spot - it will be with Ramsey, Wilson, Colwill, Brooks (if he returns) and Joniesta - and that's assuming we play a midfield 3. Think he's played as an inverted forward a bit as well, in which case his competition would be Johnson, James, Wilson, and Brooks.
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Post by jackanapes on Jan 20, 2023 16:11:31 GMT
I think it all depends what kind of approach we need in a particular game. Cooper’s engine is great - constantly running and pressing. If we wanted to put the opposition under pressure with a high press, players like Cooper and Tyler Roberts are a great fit.
If we’re looking for creativity then at the moment there’s no obvious heir to Ramsey. Maybe Colwill in time or Brooks if he regains his edge? We need a playmaker.
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Post by GuntersLeftFoot on Jan 20, 2023 16:53:55 GMT
To bring this thread back on topic. If Cooper isnt in the next squad it will be a scandal. IMO he would be close to the starting 11, probably 3rd behind allen and ampadu. Definitely a strong case for him to be in the squad, but the last bit of your post makes no sense. As an attacking midfielder, he won't be competing with Allen and Ampadu for a spot - it will be with Ramsey, Wilson, Colwill, Brooks (if he returns) and Joniesta - and that's assuming we play a midfield 3. Think he's played as an inverted forward a bit as well, in which case his competition would be Johnson, James, Wilson, and Brooks. How does it not make sense? If we play 2 in midfield, he wont play. But we have often had Allen, Ledley, Ramsey in the past in a 3. Wilson literally played in the midfield 3 at the world cup. And going forward, Ramsey is either going to be injured, as per, or retire. That leaves Wilson v Cooper for a starting spot imo. Edit: original wording was wrong, 3rd as in 3rd midfielder. not third choice |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 20, 2023 19:27:50 GMT
Has Cooper been playing as a number 10 then?
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Post by surge on Jan 20, 2023 20:52:46 GMT
Right-footed attacking midfielder might be our most competitive position in the team, right-footed CB as well, but we're not talking about 10 guys here. It's more like 5 options and chances are that be it through tactical fit, form or injury that we'll need the options.
It's really pleasing to see Oli show what he's about and continue to improve.
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Post by iot on Jan 20, 2023 20:59:35 GMT
Definitely a strong case for him to be in the squad, but the last bit of your post makes no sense. As an attacking midfielder, he won't be competing with Allen and Ampadu for a spot - it will be with Ramsey, Wilson, Colwill, Brooks (if he returns) and Joniesta - and that's assuming we play a midfield 3. Think he's played as an inverted forward a bit as well, in which case his competition would be Johnson, James, Wilson, and Brooks. How does it not make sense? If we play 2 in midfield, he wont play. But we have often had Allen, Ledley, Ramsey in the past in a 3. Wilson literally played in the midfield 3 at the world cup. And going forward, Ramsey is either going to be injured, as per, or retire. That leaves Wilson v Cooper for a starting spot imo. Edit: original wording was wrong, 3rd as in 3rd midfielder. not third choice Yeah as per your edit, I interpreted your post as Cooper competing with Allen and Ampadu for one of the deep midfield spots, which would obviously not make sense as, to my knowledge, he's never played that far back and isn't suited to it. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 20, 2023 22:37:35 GMT
Right-footed attacking midfielder might be our most competitive position in the team, right-footed CB as well, but we're not talking about 10 guys here. It's more like 5 options and chances are that be it through tactical fit, form or injury that we'll need the options. It's really pleasing to see Oli show what he's about and continue to improve. Thanks! He is certainly justifying a call up more than Colwill is in my opinion, and I'm a Cardiff supporter |
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Post by iot on Feb 2, 2023 12:16:09 GMT
Made the Sky Sports Championship team of the month for January:
Not sure how much you can read into this alone because it's based on whoscored ratings which is a fairly blunt instrument, but he's no doubt been in very good form. A must for the squad in March if he continues to be decent this month.
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Post by manulike on Feb 2, 2023 20:32:21 GMT
Hope he has his passport all sorted!
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 4, 2023 16:16:51 GMT
Assist today
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Post by dai on Feb 4, 2023 23:28:30 GMT
Has to be in the next squad, and Cullen needs looking at. What's the odds it will be Colwill and Harris though?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 5, 2023 11:28:13 GMT
What's the odds it will be Colwill and Harris though? Not likely |
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Post by surge on Feb 5, 2023 11:52:13 GMT
On paper but I'm not counting that as an assist in reality. He did not know the ball would go like that to Piroe and was trying to drag from behind into better position for himself. |
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 5, 2023 11:54:05 GMT
I actually thought it looked like a decent improvised touch to Piroe, I'll have to watch it again.
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Post by surge on Feb 5, 2023 12:02:39 GMT
I'll watch it again too as might be a bit harsh in my opening post. Probably the only one who knows is Oli himself. If he did mean it, then fair play for making something of a bad ball.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 5, 2023 12:18:17 GMT
It looks like he was just trying to make something of it and in doing so made some luck for Piroe to score. It's really encouraging that Martin is playing him and Cullen regularly and they're playing well, they've got a very talented player in Piroe to play alongside which also helps attacking players.
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 5, 2023 12:48:43 GMT
There's no way he meant that, but you earn your luck
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Post by GuntersLeftFoot on Feb 7, 2023 15:45:03 GMT
Has to be in the next squad, and Cullen needs looking at. What's the odds it will be Colwill and Harris though? If it is, there needs to be serious questions for this blind faith. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 7, 2023 18:11:45 GMT
Would be amazed if Cooper isn't in the March squad given his consistent minutes
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Post by iot on Feb 27, 2023 22:01:39 GMT
Just played the full 90 tonight against Rotherham. He was quite poor to be honest, as were the whole Swansea side. He didn't offer anything - he didn't beat his man or play a telling ball all game. He doesn't seem to be in a good run of form currently, but he's definitely done enough over the season to get in the squad ahead of the likes of Colwill. I wouldn't expect him to do much though based on recent performances.
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Post by iot on Feb 27, 2023 22:18:47 GMT
As an aside, the Swansea fans were shockingly poor and have been for a while from what I hear. There were hardly any of them and there was next to no noise other than spreading negativity. For a club that prides itself on its footballing philosophy (Swansealona and all that), there were so many groans every time Swansea were patiently passing it around in their half that I'm sure it made it a very difficult environment to play that type of football in. Cardiff fans are just as bed and I've even seen lots of people complaining about how quiet it's been at the Racecourse recently. I hope it's not something that will creep into internationals
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Post by surge on Feb 27, 2023 22:50:51 GMT
I don't know what's going on with Swansea as a club at the moment. Mistakes at board room level (sure transfers didn't come off but did you really need to make decision makers sound so naive?) possibly filtering through to performances and crowd, but I would still expect better from both.
Would Jacks be big winners from WRU finally merging two regions and having them play in Llanelli so Jack's can get a football pitch to work on?
Bit gutting how much Oli has gone off boil second half of the season but this is still his first real campaign at Championship level. 90 minutes of hard toil could be good lesson for him.
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 28, 2023 9:38:04 GMT
Would Jacks be big winners from WRU finally merging two regions and having them play in Llanelli so Jack's can get a football pitch to work on? [ The Ospreys play about three times every two months at home. The pitch was voted best in the PL numerous times. Rugby isn’t an issue. |
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Post by manulike on Feb 28, 2023 10:00:55 GMT
Just played the full 90 tonight against Rotherham. He was quite poor to be honest, as were the whole Swansea side. He didn't offer anything - he didn't beat his man or play a telling ball all game. He doesn't seem to be in a good run of form currently, but he's definitely done enough over the season to get in the squad ahead of the likes of Colwill. I wouldn't expect him to do much though based on recent performances. I agree with most of what you said, but it is still harsh on Oli. I also saw the full 90 and thought he was quite decent in the first half - especially first 30'. Around the 3' mark he had a great pass from Allen and he turned his man brilliantly and had a great run on goal. Yes. He opted to shoot instead of passing.
Same with Allen. Around the 30' mark I was about to come on here and to say how good he looks and how well he combines with Oli. The whole team faded in the 2nd half.
Personally, I'd love to see Oli START the Latvia game.
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