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Post by gimli on Jan 30, 2023 11:10:26 GMT
To be fair, change like that takes years if not decades to happen. He's only been in the job a year and a half.
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 30, 2023 11:13:19 GMT
I was writing this ready for 2030
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Post by derynglas on Jan 30, 2023 11:41:42 GMT
Mooney doesnt pick the squad or decide the tactics of the national side does he. We were at the world cup,thats the main thing. Theres been a review of the Cymru Premier in the last six months.All stake holders have been asked their views.I was part of a group of fans at our club that was invoved in the discussions. All speculation but i think there will be changes to the size (more teams) and structure of fixtures of the top division,and (hopefully) more investment. Decisions will be announced in the next few months. Got nothing against Jonathan Ford but he was a marketing man and had zero input or interest in the football side as far as i am aware and certainly not in the Cymru Premier. Having a proper football man as the CEO who actually listens to the fans and the clubs could be the best thing to happen to our domnestic football,im quite optimistic at this moment anyway.Well see the results off course but not rushing to judgement.
As for helping the WRU Im no fan of the egg but if he helps the WRU great.Who cares,really.
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Post by paj on Jan 30, 2023 11:50:51 GMT
Personally I quite like the idea of helping the WRU. Good to have the moral high ground and it will annoy the smug rugby fans who have belittled football in wales for many years. Childish I know but I don’t care.
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Post by evans1282 on Jan 30, 2023 12:07:36 GMT
One full season he's been in charge ffs,maybe if you lent him your magic wand he could sort it!
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 30, 2023 12:17:22 GMT
A lot of positive changes have been implemented in the Women's game, which his tweet to the WRU was related to, but I suppose that doesn't count for some right?
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Post by iot on Jan 30, 2023 13:19:44 GMT
Bloody hell, can't believe how small-minded some of this is. Why would anyone give a shit what the WRU would do if the boot was on the other foot? How can anyone from the outside make out he's doing a terrible job, particularly when it's only a year and a half into the job!? I just find it strange to have those sorts of views if you don't have any insight on what he's doing - and very few people will have a true insight on what the CEO of any organisation does. I've got no idea where some of these opinions are coming from.
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Post by dai on Jan 30, 2023 13:35:31 GMT
Not going to divulge, but I have a tiny bit of insight.
But anyway, I haven't commented on his job role, just what he does on social media.
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Post by rushy on Jan 30, 2023 20:06:21 GMT
I don't know the workings of the FAW much these days but I have always doubted the integrity of those they employ , and so I cannot comment on this guy Mooney on whether he's doing a decent job or not, however the absolute priority should be the man's game imo, and the decision to give equal remuneration to men and women makes you wonder where the future lies in how much focus is being given to it . One thing I would agree with is the name change to Cymru, the language needs all the help it can get and this would be a significant boost in sustaining it's future.
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Post by surge on Jan 30, 2023 20:07:46 GMT
Am I right in saying that Eddie Jones and Pep Guardiola observed each other's training sessions and commented on similarities between aims in rugby and football? Something along the lines that they're both and drawing attention of a defensive player then releasing an attacking ally into space/threatening area just at the right time.
Egg versus football is the past. Now we need the best facilities for both sports and more families like the Cabango's where one sibling is more interested/talented in rugby and the other moreso in football but both going on to reach a really decent level.
Except for the tall lads in North Wales who historically become our great goalies. We need them to still want to be footballers over ruggers!!
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Post by gwernybwch on Jan 30, 2023 21:23:25 GMT
Collaboration can work both ways. Lets face it, up until recently the WRU have been a pretty successful organisation. They funded and built (at the time) one of the best stadiums in the world. They have convinced large numbers of the population of Wales that their organisation is a cultural representation of the country itself. They regularly get 60k to 80k people from a relatively poor country to part with £60 plus to watch them play the same countries each year in a minority sport. Surely the FAW can learn something from collaborating with them?
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Post by evans1282 on Jan 31, 2023 6:06:43 GMT
Not going to divulge, but I have a tiny bit of insight. But anyway, I haven't commented on his job role, just what he does on social media. I'm Dai ,and I know things,lol
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Post by Belle Vue on Feb 28, 2023 20:46:45 GMT
Anyone else get the feeling that Noel is obsessed with the Women’s game I kind of get the feeling the men’s squads are really going to suffer over the next few years due to his obsession of the women’s team , while i respect we live in a equal world surely someone needs to tell him women’s football in Wales is a non starter in regards to success , attendances , income etc
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 28, 2023 21:48:19 GMT
Everything you've said here is absolute nonsense
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Post by surge on Feb 28, 2023 22:35:43 GMT
Goodness me, I am not looking forward to games getting a bit tougher without Bale, Allen etc and some fans saying it's because we're trying to get women's football or Cymru Premier up.
To answer the point seriously, we needed to focus more on parts of game which give us a better foundation but it could be part of several reasons things are little bit trickier over next two years or so.
In longer term, increasing focus on grass routes should protect future of the game including filling up stands for men's game when any possible drop off in results sees some fans drop away.
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Post by Belle Vue on Mar 1, 2023 9:15:12 GMT
He’s not even Welsh
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Post by evans1282 on Mar 1, 2023 11:27:05 GMT
Anyone else get the feeling that Noel is obsessed with the Women’s game I kind of get the feeling the men’s squads are really going to suffer over the next few years due to his obsession of the women’s team , while i respect we live in a equal world surely someone needs to tell him women’s football in Wales is a non starter in regards to success , attendances , income etc FFS No you're talking your usual bs on women's football,only one person I can see here who's "obsessed " and its not Noel!
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Post by dai on Mar 10, 2023 14:32:02 GMT
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Post by gwernybwch on Mar 10, 2023 18:17:31 GMT
It's WalesOnLine. Its click bait. It's an attempt to get the egg chasers frothing at the mouth (and clicking on their mice) at the thought of a wendy ball man running their beloved WRU. Maybe he is what the WRU need? He seems to work well at grassroots level and is media savvy. Why is he getting so much attention based on previous employees' work? The world over there are charismatic extroverts dining on the hard word of others. He is no different.
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Post by cadno on Mar 10, 2023 18:25:24 GMT
Jonathan Ford made some really important changes and good work within the FAW. He might not have been amazing at tweeting or engaging with fans but that wasn’t really his job
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 10, 2023 18:33:53 GMT
He did and now Mooney is doing good work with a different approach...it doesn't have to be either or. Why it upsets some people I'll never know.
One constant has been Ian Gwyn Hughes, neither would be as effective without him.
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Post by dai on Mar 10, 2023 21:59:34 GMT
It's WalesOnLine. Its click bait. It's an attempt to get the egg chasers frothing at the mouth (and clicking on their mice) at the thought of a wendy ball man running their beloved WRU. Maybe he is what the WRU need? He seems to work well at grassroots level and is media savvy. Why is he getting so much attention based on previous employees' work?
The world over there are charismatic extroverts dining on the hard word of others. He is no different. It's like I stated above. The FAW are in the position they are, culturally and professionally because of the foundations laid and built upon long before Mooney became CEO. He hasn't been in the job long enough to have a recognisable impact, so why is he being chosen as some 'guru'? The people before him are responsible for the current FAW. But anyway, we'll see in the next 12 months or few years what he actually achieves while at the FAW.
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Post by cadno on Mar 11, 2023 0:27:38 GMT
CrackityJones Agree to an extent, Noel Mooney comes across as a really good person, with a lot of enthusiasm and positive ideas. But until the wheels are in motion I don’t think announcing ideas /strategies helps anyone, e.g a friendly against Argentina…
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Post by dai on Jul 27, 2023 21:37:26 GMT
This is a poor interview: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66306118"But what we don't do, we don't make knee-jerk decisions just based on a lot of people upset that we lost a game." No Noel, a number of fans have been upset for a while now. He's a chronic twitter user, surely he can see that fans have been concerned for ages. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction. "If we go backwards that's not acceptable to the FAW - that's not acceptable to anybody." If we go backwards? We are going backwards! Why do I get this feeling that the focus seems to be on everything else apart from mens national team under Mooney. Seems like he's more obsessed with making the FAW into some political/cultural body than a footballing one. Maybe he'd be more suited to joining Plaid Cymru.
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Post by welshrover on Jul 27, 2023 21:54:50 GMT
This is a poor interview: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66306118"But what we don't do, we don't make knee-jerk decisions just based on a lot of people upset that we lost a game." No Noel, a number of fans have been upset for a while now. He's a chronic twitter user, surely he can see that fans have been concerned for ages. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction. "If we go backwards that's not acceptable to the FAW - that's not acceptable to anybody." If we go backwards? We are going backwards! Why do I get this feeling that the focus seems to be on everything else apart from mens national team under Mooney. Seems like he's more obsessed with making the FAW into some political/cultural body than a footballing one. Maybe he'd be more suited to joining Plaid Cymru. Agree with your sentiments. Women, Gays, Transgender, Asians appear to be the way forward for the FAW. It's just a shame the vast majority of historical support for the Welsh National team are now being marginalised. I do realise this post will get pulled and I will be banned into the hyperspace of people who can no longer post, but we can't all be modern day liberals.
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Post by surge on Jul 27, 2023 22:17:49 GMT
I'm not going to quote your whole thing because it's only a few posts above mine and people can read it they want to. With respect though, I think you're seeing it the wrong way. i) "Mooney was speaking as the FAW launched a partnership with the FUW - the Farmers Union of Wales - for a new initiative to bridge the gap between young men in farming and football clubs." Mooney in't going to be outwardly challenging Page at an event which is based on reaching out to farmers where part of the focus is on using football to build connections and push back on mental health crisis. ii) ""At the time we feel that we're not continuing on the right track then that may be time to change because you've got to keep growing." A CEO without any concern isn't going to be talk about constant reviews or needing to keep growing. Ultimately Noel Mooney and the FAW have to decide whether we can make it into the top two from a distance back and if not whether current manager or change is best placed in play-offs (if we make that) to scrape through to Euros. They also need to protect and grow the game longer term - something which means we need to be as proactively welcoming as possible so we have best chance of selling out stadium for, as an example, a friendly against a South Korea side.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 27, 2023 22:25:02 GMT
This is a poor interview: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66306118"But what we don't do, we don't make knee-jerk decisions just based on a lot of people upset that we lost a game." No Noel, a number of fans have been upset for a while now. He's a chronic twitter user, surely he can see that fans have been concerned for ages. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction. "If we go backwards that's not acceptable to the FAW - that's not acceptable to anybody." If we go backwards? We are going backwards! Why do I get this feeling that the focus seems to be on everything else apart from mens national team under Mooney. Seems like he's more obsessed with making the FAW into some political/cultural body than a footballing one. Maybe he'd be more suited to joining Plaid Cymru. Agree with your sentiments. Women, Gays, Transgender, Asians appear to be the way forward for the FAW. It's just a shame the vast majority of historical support for the Welsh National team are now being marginalised. I do realise this post will get pulled and I will be banned into the hyperspace of people who can no longer post, but we can't all be modern day liberals. Well if you post a load of b*llocks you will get called out on it. Sorry, that's just the way the world works
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Post by welshrover on Jul 27, 2023 22:39:50 GMT
Agree with your sentiments. Women, Gays, Transgender, Asians appear to be the way forward for the FAW. It's just a shame the vast majority of historical support for the Welsh National team are now being marginalised. I do realise this post will get pulled and I will be banned into the hyperspace of people who can no longer post, but we can't all be modern day liberals. Well if you post a load of b*llocks you will get called out on it. Sorry, that's just the way the world works It's b*locks in your eyes, but to the point in a lot of other eyes. And if you don't think straight, white males, (the basis of Welsh Football Support) are being marginalised then I suggest you take your blinkers off.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 27, 2023 22:44:18 GMT
Last time I looked the vast majority of the crowd watching Wales games are straight white men so you don’t have to cry yourself to sleep yet. Pathetic
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Post by welshrover on Jul 27, 2023 22:53:31 GMT
Last time I looked the vast majority of the crowd watching Wales games are straight white men so you don’t have to cry yourself to sleep yet. Pathetic So why weren't any of those straight, white men who have poured hundreds, thousands into the FAW coffers rewarded with free tickets for the last game like the Asian women were. We are an international football team not a cultural advertisement. Time to focus on what is happening, or not, on the pitch rather than all this PC Nonsense.
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