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Post by welwyn on Oct 1, 2021 14:20:09 GMT
Going to Luton v Huddersfield tomorrow, will give my assessment, albeit that it is a beer festival at the ground tomorrow so won't be the most sober scouting!
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 1, 2021 16:35:46 GMT
Going to Luton v Huddersfield tomorrow, will give my assessment, albeit that it is a beer festival at the ground tomorrow so won't be the most sober scouting! Those poor Huddersfield fans. |
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 3, 2021 19:31:52 GMT
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-player-ratings-huge-21745271Sorba Thomas – Wound up the home fans something rotten, which is always good to see. Harshly booked for a foul that wasn’t really a foul but got away with one that should have been, so call it even. 5 By the sound of things not his best game but I quite enjoy reading that opening line, a bit of edge to the man, I wooudln't mind seeing him goading the Czech's after a 93rd minute assist for a Kieffer Moore winner!
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Post by welwyn on Oct 4, 2021 15:58:37 GMT
Wasn't sure if he was booked for the foul or mouthing off about it to the referee. Certainly the booking was delayed enough for it to be the latter. Certainly wasn't a foul as I thought he was mouthing off about us getting the throw in from what was basically the dictionary definition of a perfect block tackle by both players.
Certainly the plan was that he WAS the width for Huddersfield (with Koroma wanting to cut in off the left). In the first half he started at RWB, then when they realised he wasn't getting any space that way, they moved him to RW in a 4-2-3-1, moving a CB to RB and the RW moving inside. They then changed that back again.
It was obvious all game that we knew he was the primary dangerman and we were desperate to avoid giving him space. He only got real space twice, once on a counter-attack where he scuffed the ball in (understandable in the conditions) and delivered a decent ball in the other time.
His set-piece delivery was consistently on-the-money though.
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Post by hooky on Oct 5, 2021 19:31:59 GMT
He is so refreshing. He is almost child like in his enthusiasm. Please pick him Page and fingers crossed he makes a big difference as you could not wish good things to happen to a nicer, more modest person by the looks of it. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/58810157 |
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Post by vvm on Oct 6, 2021 7:47:06 GMT
I don't generally get excited for our younger players getting their first call up as I wouldn't really expect them to play, let alone do anything special of note, but there is something special about this lad. Just got a feeling he's about to show us what he's all about in the Czech game.
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Post by rangers15 on Oct 6, 2021 8:55:36 GMT
i cant see page picking him for the czech game personally (i'd throw him in, especially with Roberts and Neco coming back from injuries). he might get off the bench?
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Post by bringbackelmo on Oct 6, 2021 9:07:00 GMT
How can you not love this man? He's saying all the right things and his enthusiasm is infectious. The fact that he might add some much needed creativity is great too. I can't see him starting on Friday but, depending on how he has trained, wouldn't be surprised to see him come on.
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Post by rangers15 on Oct 6, 2021 9:17:31 GMT
How can you not love this man? He's saying all the right things and his enthusiasm is infectious. The fact that he might add some much needed creativity is great too. I can't see him starting on Friday but, depending on how he has trained, wouldn't be surprised to see him come on. he just looks so happy to be there - its great. like you say, hopefully his enthusiasm in training and his pace will see him get some minutes over this double header. we have some proper speedsters in James, Johnson and now Thomas... might be really useful on the counter in Prague. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 6, 2021 9:44:15 GMT
I think he has to start as we can't really be starting Roberts & Neco given their lack of minutes. I also think we are forced to play 5 at the back now with Davies definitely out. Sorba as one wing back then either Neco or Roberts as the other
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Oct 6, 2021 15:58:06 GMT
I think he has to start as we can't really be starting Roberts & Neco given their lack of minutes. I also think we are forced to play 5 at the back now with Davies definitely out. Sorba as one wing back then either Neco or Roberts as the other I agree. Harsh on Sorba that he’s in this position in many ways. Although I’m sure he’d be delighted at playing, to do so in a big match in a role where he’s only filled in at HTAFC and being without international experience of any degree is a big ask. |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 6, 2021 17:19:56 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league.
Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 6, 2021 17:35:02 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. To be fair, a lot were saying similar about Kieffer Moore (some called him a useless donkey) when he came into the squad and look at the effect he's had |
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Post by dai on Oct 6, 2021 17:46:07 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. To be fair, a lot were saying similar about Kieffer Moore (some called him a useless donkey) when he came into the squad and look at the effect he's had Hmm I don't know. Kieffer seemed to be a complete random discovery if I remember correctly and we weren't expecting much. Granted, the Sorba discovery has been reasonably random as well, but I think he's had more hype put on him than Moore. |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 6, 2021 17:46:10 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. To be fair, a lot were saying similar about Kieffer Moore (some called him a useless donkey) when he came into the squad and look at the effect he's had Yes, good point, just seems a world away from where we were just five years ago. I suppose we should be grateful that we had that "golden period" |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 6, 2021 19:05:10 GMT
To be fair, a lot were saying similar about Kieffer Moore (some called him a useless donkey) when he came into the squad and look at the effect he's had Hmm I don't know. Kieffer seemed to be a complete random discovery if I remember correctly and we weren't expecting much. Granted, the Sorba discovery has been reasonably random as well, but I think he's had more hype put on him than Moore. People were slating the decision to include him and were saying the fact we were calling up "Anglos" like him up was a slap in the face other Welsh players, and that there was no way we'd ever use him in a game anyway because he was too limited |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 6, 2021 19:08:19 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. Or....it's great that we now have the option to include a young lad who is tearing up the Championship, who looks destined for bigger things. The fact that he's so enthusiastic about playing for us shows how far we've come in the past few years Depends whether you like your glass to be half full or half empty. I personally prefer it to be half full |
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Post by insertname on Oct 6, 2021 19:29:45 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. Oh I’m sorry, were you expecting more than qualification for Euro 2020, a place in the last 16 and qualification to group A of the nations league? I mean when you look at it like that, it has been un-mitigated under-achievement since Coleman left hasn’t it? It reminds me of how I got slagged off back in the day for my negativity because I felt we should have been doing better under Tosh, fast forward 10 years and people are wilfully over-looking tournament qualification in order to have a bloody moan! Christ alive. I’d rather be where we are having been on the football map under Giggs than have been trying to bed players in from scratch like ROI. And come on, while we’re on the subject of pinning hopes on under whelming players seeing how all the young up coming talents that played in the Panama game have flattered to deceive since you could argue that Giggs (and to a certain extent Page) probably over-achieved. Case in point: we’re still trying to wring the last bit of value out of Allen, Ramsey and Bale because the cupboard is otherwise bare. |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 6, 2021 23:38:19 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. Oh I’m sorry, were you expecting more than qualification for Euro 2020, a place in the last 16 and qualification to group A of the nations league? I mean when you look at it like that, it has been un-mitigated under-achievement since Coleman left hasn’t it? It reminds me of how I got slagged off back in the day for my negativity because I felt we should have been doing better under Tosh, fast forward 10 years and people are wilfully over-looking tournament qualification in order to have a bloody moan! Christ alive. I’d rather be where we are having been on the football map under Giggs than have been trying to bed players in from scratch like ROI. And come on, while we’re on the subject of pinning hopes on under whelming players seeing how all the young up coming talents that played in the Panama game have flattered to deceive since you could argue that Giggs (and to a certain extent Page) probably over-achieved. Case in point: we’re still trying to wring the last bit of value out of Allen, Ramsey and Bale because the cupboard is otherwise bare. Your last sentence is the point I was making. Don't understand your animosity? |
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Post by insertname on Oct 7, 2021 2:24:44 GMT
Oh I’m sorry, were you expecting more than qualification for Euro 2020, a place in the last 16 and qualification to group A of the nations league? I mean when you look at it like that, it has been un-mitigated under-achievement since Coleman left hasn’t it? It reminds me of how I got slagged off back in the day for my negativity because I felt we should have been doing better under Tosh, fast forward 10 years and people are wilfully over-looking tournament qualification in order to have a bloody moan! Christ alive. I’d rather be where we are having been on the football map under Giggs than have been trying to bed players in from scratch like ROI. And come on, while we’re on the subject of pinning hopes on under whelming players seeing how all the young up coming talents that played in the Panama game have flattered to deceive since you could argue that Giggs (and to a certain extent Page) probably over-achieved. Case in point: we’re still trying to wring the last bit of value out of Allen, Ramsey and Bale because the cupboard is otherwise bare. Your last sentence is the point I was making. Don't understand your animosity? Because it’s hard not to see the sarcasm that practically drips off “…shows ‘how far’ we have come…” and that’s grossly unfair because you’re implying a journey and whilst things might not be great now that journey we’ve been on has been a bloody good run under Giggs and Page, made all the more sweet because it’s been achieved by players who have under-performed during that time and I include the likes of Bale and Ramsey in that. It’s turned out to be unsustainable but that was always likely to be the case given we were winning games by the skin of our teeth but I for one am just grateful that we did at all. Id rather be where we are now, facing a difficult transition period than to have tried to make wholesale changes earlier and maybe missed out on WC play offs, promotion in the nations league and tanking at the Euros. The juice was most definitely worth the squeeze. It does feel at times that there is a narrative on here that Page and Giggs can’t be given credit for anything, meanwhile the players are continuously talked up even when they fail to deliver. Giggs was so unwanted that it seems some are desperate to conclude that his time as manager was a failure despite setting in motion a consistent achievement beyond anything any other Welsh manager has been able to boast. Coleman even had Bale and Ramsey in their prime but won’t have got Wales as close to a World Cup as Giggs/Page will (admittedly most likely via the nations league but given how we struggled in the WC group I wouldn’t back Coleman to win a nations league group even if the format had been around then). |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 7, 2021 7:21:22 GMT
Nothing against Sorba but we must be in a real sh-te state when we are pinning our hopes on a lad who has never played an international and who not that long ago was playing non league. Shows how far we "have come" under the current stewardship be it Giggs or Page. i dont think we have to pin our hopes on Sorba - everyone just seems generally excited about this one. We already have solid young but experienced players who can win us a game - Wilson, James, Brooks, Nico, Connor, Moore - majority of these breaking through under Giggs. I do feel we are becoming stifled under page though - he's not this level management its becoming more apparent. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 7, 2021 8:46:21 GMT
We’ve had a few players over the years who’ve stepped up from non league football.
Ashley Williams the obvious one but also Ricketts got 50 odd caps and Keiffer is doing well for us at the mo.
A few from the Welsh league too like Mark Delaney and, to a lesser extent, Tudur-Jones.
Good luck Sorba.
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Post by dai on Oct 8, 2021 21:52:23 GMT
Think I'd like to see him start on Monday. Nothing wrong with Neco, just thought Sorba put in a few decent crosses after he came on, which Neco didn't do often enough throughout the game.
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Post by welshrover on Oct 8, 2021 22:45:32 GMT
Think I'd like to see him start on Monday. Nothing wrong with Neco, just thought Sorba put in a few decent crosses after he came on, which Neco didn't do often enough throughout the game. Of the breif moments we saw of him was more convinced by his attacking than his defending. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 8, 2021 23:14:57 GMT
He put in the best cross of the game in my opinion, proper whipped it in, haven't seen any of our lads do that in ages, we tend to just float it in there too much in my opinion
Seeing as we will be attacking Estonia a lot, I think it makes sense to start him as an attacking wing back. I think he would compliment Kieffer well. He doesn't seem to be a 'defensive wing back', but we don't really need one for the next game. You can make it asymmetrical as well by playing Roberts on the other side, which would work in my opinion
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Post by hooky on Oct 8, 2021 23:25:09 GMT
So happy for him!
Did you see the respect he has for Wales and the team.?
His pure joy at his first cap?
Proudly showing off his shirt with everyone's signature?
I hope he makes it big! What a humble guy! Special!
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Post by hooky on Oct 9, 2021 9:27:50 GMT
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 9, 2021 10:18:55 GMT
Interview from after the game. The guy just seems to already love it with us and acts like a fan would if he was just thrust into the national team. Not that I blame him considering he was playing non league last year. He must be buzzing his head off with what has happened to him in the past year. What a story for the guy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMRCHZ4ORKo&ab_channel=FAWales |
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Post by johnoster on Oct 12, 2021 8:09:20 GMT
Bit of a sobering performance after probably expecting too much from him.
Generally plays on the right wing for Huddersfield, so having him play LWB and then pretty much as a LB was a lot to ask.
I've not watched him for Huddersfield yet, so don't know his strengths. But I don't think he's a left back!
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Post by welshrover on Oct 12, 2021 10:17:49 GMT
Bit of a sobering performance after probably expecting too much from him. Generally plays on the right wing for Huddersfield, so having him play LWB and then pretty much as a LB was a lot to ask. I've not watched him for Huddersfield yet, so don't know his strengths. But I don't think he's a left back! Agree with you. What didn't help him though was his out ball to James disappeared after 30 minutes when James decided / was instructed to leave the left wing and play down the centre, totally baffled me. |
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