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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 1, 2021 21:34:10 GMT
Very interesting. Paul Mullin claims he's eligible and "already registered" - assuming this isn't an attempt at humour
I know he's playing National League, but he's a glamour signing from League Two, where he scored 32 in 46 to get Cambridge up into League One
It might be unlikely, but he's only 26, and if he gets Wrexham up the pyramid who knows, he could be an option?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 1, 2021 21:40:08 GMT
Very interesting. Paul Mullin claims he's eligible and "already registered" - assuming this isn't an attempt at humour I know he's playing National League, but he's a glamour signing from League Two, where he scored 32 in 46 to get Cambridge up into League One It might be unlikely, but he's only 26, and if he gets Wrexham up the pyramid who knows, he could be an option? The man is Lee Trundle reincarnated, he can do everything.
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Post by welshrover on Nov 1, 2021 22:17:35 GMT
Very interesting. Paul Mullin claims he's eligible and "already registered" - assuming this isn't an attempt at humour I know he's playing National League, but he's a glamour signing from League Two, where he scored 32 in 46 to get Cambridge up into League One It might be unlikely, but he's only 26, and if he gets Wrexham up the pyramid who knows, he could be an option? The man is Lee Trundle reincarnated, he can do everything. Never be another Lee Trundle in the WPL. Remember his first game for us, hat trick at Port Talbot, head and shoulders above anything else I had seen in this league.
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Post by iot on Nov 1, 2021 22:25:06 GMT
The man is Lee Trundle reincarnated, he can do everything. Never be another Lee Trundle in the WPL. Remember his first game for us, hat trick at Port Talbot, head and shoulders above anything else I had seen in this league. He was playing in the prem with rhyl in his mid twenties
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Post by vvm on Nov 2, 2021 8:45:24 GMT
Top scorer in league 2 last year so probably at least league one quality, wouldn't be surprised if a few championship teams were interested at the time either but understandable that he took the big contract and payday at Wrexham. Definitely worth keeping an eye on considering our striker situation isn't great.
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Post by caws1958 on Nov 2, 2021 14:46:39 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 2, 2021 15:28:13 GMT
If he stayed at Cambridge and continued banging them in, he may have got a call up
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 2, 2021 17:26:33 GMT
Can't hurt to invite him along to the extended squad to see if he's able to mix it in with others around Championship level. He's proved he's a minimum of League One level. I'm sure plenty would decry the level he plays at but in reality his ability is all that matters, not the level
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 2, 2021 19:28:51 GMT
From what I've seen the lad has something about him, has a proper presence on the pitch. Don't know if he'd hide away at international but if its him off the bench to try him or Harris I'd go with Mullin.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 2, 2021 20:25:43 GMT
Can't hurt to invite him along to the extended squad to see if he's able to mix it in with others around Championship level. He's proved he's a minimum of League One level. I'm sure plenty would decry the level he plays at but in reality his ability is all that matters, not the level Has he? Scoring a lot of goals in one division doesn't mean you're automatically a good player for the level above and certainly doesn't make you a Championship level striker as someone else has suggested. We have strikers playing at higher levels who don't get a look in and deserve a shot before a guy who may not even qualify for us
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Post by cadno on Nov 2, 2021 20:58:31 GMT
Can't hurt to invite him along to the extended squad to see if he's able to mix it in with others around Championship level. He's proved he's a minimum of League One level. I'm sure plenty would decry the level he plays at but in reality his ability is all that matters, not the level Has he? Scoring a lot of goals in one division doesn't mean you're automatically a good player for the level above and certainly doesn't make you a Championship level striker as someone else has suggested. We have strikers playing at higher levels who don't get a look in and deserve a shot before a guy who may not even qualify for us Yes...
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 2, 2021 21:17:54 GMT
Can't hurt to invite him along to the extended squad to see if he's able to mix it in with others around Championship level. He's proved he's a minimum of League One level. I'm sure plenty would decry the level he plays at but in reality his ability is all that matters, not the level Has he? Scoring a lot of goals in one division doesn't mean you're automatically a good player for the level above and certainly doesn't make you a Championship level striker as someone else has suggested. We have strikers playing at higher levels who don't get a look in and deserve a shot before a guy who may not even qualify for us Of course I want to see this guy succeed and get called up whilst at Wrexham.Worth noting that we know of one championship team in Preston that refused his services. With that in mind can he be that good compared to the championship options we dismiss or even SPL strikers? Probably not. Let’s hope he scores 40 and proves me wrong but not worth the excitement at present
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Post by dai on Nov 2, 2021 21:49:58 GMT
Calling up a non-league player? Seriously? I know we're desperate for a striker, but we have the likes of Jephcott, Doidge, Bradshaw (yes, him again), Vokes, T Lawrence etc playing at a higher level - and they all get brushed off as not being good enough. Yet someone playing non-league is? Hell, I'd even call up Liam Cullen before this guy. Strange......
Sounds like a modern day Koumas, enough skill and talent, but no ambition and work ethic.
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 2, 2021 22:14:32 GMT
He's 26 and he's had one good season, in the fourth tier of English football, before dropping back down to Non-League. Who knows what will happen in the future but I wouldn't get too excited just yet.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 7:39:41 GMT
Calling up a non-league player? Seriously? I know we're desperate for a striker, but we have the likes of Jephcott, Doidge, Bradshaw (yes, him again), Vokes, T Lawrence etc playing at a higher level - and they all get brushed off as not being good enough. Yet someone playing non-league is? Hell, I'd even call up Liam Cullen before this guy. Strange...... Sounds like a modern day Koumas, enough skill and talent, but no ambition and work ethic. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about by dismissing him as a player with no work ethic. He's the hardest worker in our team and has won us games on his own. If you're going to be instantly dismissive (not like you, is it?) maybe you should leave the opinions on this guy to the good number of people on here who have actually seen him play, yeah?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 7:45:45 GMT
I will add that as a barometer, we had Mark Harris on loan here not too long ago and Mullin looked the far superior player of the two. I know Harris is fairly young, but surely he hasn't improved THAT much in that time.
I think we'd need a couple of promotions before Mullin is considered mind, it seems unlikely he'd be looked at from the conference or even league 2, but who knows?
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Post by dai on Nov 3, 2021 8:11:05 GMT
Calling up a non-league player? Seriously? I know we're desperate for a striker, but we have the likes of Jephcott, Doidge, Bradshaw (yes, him again), Vokes, T Lawrence etc playing at a higher level - and they all get brushed off as not being good enough. Yet someone playing non-league is? Hell, I'd even call up Liam Cullen before this guy. Strange...... Sounds like a modern day Koumas, enough skill and talent, but no ambition and work ethic. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about by dismissing him as a player with no work ethic. He's the hardest worker in our team and has won us games on his own. If you're going to be instantly dismissive (not like you, is it?) maybe you should leave the opinions on this guy to the good number of people on here who have actually seen him play, yeah? Bit touchy on this are we? Maybe the hard worker comment was harsh, but clearly lacks ambition if he decided to drop down to non-league, after being the highest scorer in League 2 and getting promoted. Maybe didn't fancy the extra work required when moving up a league?
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Post by iot on Nov 3, 2021 8:20:28 GMT
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about by dismissing him as a player with no work ethic. He's the hardest worker in our team and has won us games on his own. If you're going to be instantly dismissive (not like you, is it?) maybe you should leave the opinions on this guy to the good number of people on here who have actually seen him play, yeah? Bit touchy on this are we? Maybe the hard worker comment was harsh, but clearly lacks ambition if he decided to drop down to non-league, after being the highest scorer in League 2 and getting promoted. Maybe didn't fancy the extra work required when moving up a league? Isn't that a slightly lazy way of looking at it though? He's what 25 or 26 and up to now been playing in the lower leagues, so he will have been earning good money for now, but nothing that would set him up for life after football. The contract from Wrexham was probably a lot better than what he was offered elsewhere, so I don't see why people would blame him for taking it. It's not like he's on 300k a week and sorted financially for life, so has the luxury of prioritizing other things. He obviously has to do what's best for his career and for his family. I'm not sure why people are so judgmental on this.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 3, 2021 8:21:42 GMT
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about by dismissing him as a player with no work ethic. He's the hardest worker in our team and has won us games on his own. If you're going to be instantly dismissive (not like you, is it?) maybe you should leave the opinions on this guy to the good number of people on here who have actually seen him play, yeah? Bit touchy on this are we? Maybe the hard worker comment was harsh, but clearly lacks ambition if he decided to drop down to non-league, after being the highest scorer in League 2 and getting promoted. Maybe didn't fancy the extra work required when moving up a league? Or maybe he just wanted the extra money in a relatively short football career, the exposure in a worldwide documentary and the chance to put his name out there helping Wrexham got promoted? As said by EC he drags us through games on his own, he's our equivalent of Bale. Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course but you're showing yourself up here as not having a clue what you're really talking about.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 8:44:15 GMT
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about by dismissing him as a player with no work ethic. He's the hardest worker in our team and has won us games on his own. If you're going to be instantly dismissive (not like you, is it?) maybe you should leave the opinions on this guy to the good number of people on here who have actually seen him play, yeah? Bit touchy on this are we? Maybe the hard worker comment was harsh, but clearly lacks ambition if he decided to drop down to non-league, after being the highest scorer in League 2 and getting promoted. Maybe didn't fancy the extra work required when moving up a league? I'm not touchy, I just don't agree with your way of thinking. I suggest you take in a game of his before passing further judgement, our next TV game is against Weymouth on December 11th.
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Post by dai on Nov 3, 2021 9:23:00 GMT
I just find this bizarre because myself and others have suggested recalling Vokes, Lawrence or calling up Doidge/Bradshaw/Jephcott/Cullen. Most of these have been scoffed at, yet we are led to believe that calling up a guy in non-league is a better option? Is it because he's at a Welsh club in Wrexham?
If he was still banging them in at League 2 or better still League 1, then I'd say definitely needs a look or call up.
The real question for me is, if he was registered and scoring tons of goals in League 2 why hasn't his name come up before now?
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Post by superunknown on Nov 3, 2021 10:42:23 GMT
I just find this bizarre because myself and others have suggested recalling Vokes, Lawrence or calling up Doidge/Bradshaw/Jephcott/Cullen. Most of these have been scoffed at, yet we are led to believe that calling up a guy in non-league is a better option? Is it because he's at a Welsh club in Wrexham? If he was still banging them in at League 2 or better still League 1, then I'd say definitely needs a look or call up. The real question for me is, if he was registered and scoring tons of goals in League 2 why hasn't his name come up before now? No one’s realistically suggesting calling him up before them at the moment, just saying he’s an option for the future if he carries on scoring loads of goals a season, obviously would need to do this at a higher level first as you say. No harm talking about potential options though. You saying he has no work ethic/ambition is what people are taking issue with and just highlights your ignorance about a player with clear talent. If you haven’t seen him play then you can’t really comment. His name won’t have come up before now because why would it? Literally no regular fan knew he was registered until he told us? Who knows when he was registered either, might have been a couple of weeks ago for all we know. As I said above no ones suggesting call him up now but as a potential option for the future it’s worth bearing in mind. He could comfortably play at League 1 level and probably the Championship of Mark Harris can.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 3, 2021 11:30:44 GMT
I just find this bizarre because myself and others have suggested recalling Vokes, Lawrence or calling up Doidge/Bradshaw/Jephcott/Cullen. Most of these have been scoffed at, yet we are led to believe that calling up a guy in non-league is a better option? Is it because he's at a Welsh club in Wrexham? If he was still banging them in at League 2 or better still League 1, then I'd say definitely needs a look or call up. The real question for me is, if he was registered and scoring tons of goals in League 2 why hasn't his name come up before now? I completely agree, he had a very good season last season in League 2 and has started well for Wrexham but to suggest he's Championship level is a bit far fetched, especially when you consider he didn't really have a good record in League 1 or even 2 prior to last season. There are players at higher levels who don't get a look in. I doubt he'd even get a mention if he was at Boreham Wood or Grimsby or someone like that
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 11:49:05 GMT
I just find this bizarre because myself and others have suggested recalling Vokes, Lawrence or calling up Doidge/Bradshaw/Jephcott/Cullen. Most of these have been scoffed at, yet we are led to believe that calling up a guy in non-league is a better option? Is it because he's at a Welsh club in Wrexham? If he was still banging them in at League 2 or better still League 1, then I'd say definitely needs a look or call up. The real question for me is, if he was registered and scoring tons of goals in League 2 why hasn't his name come up before now? I doubt he'd even get a mention if he was at Boreham Wood or Grimsby or someone like that True, but Sorba was at the former last season! As I said before, he looks a far better player than Mark Harris did in his time here and Harris is now at Championship level. That's the only real comparison I have.
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Post by gimli on Nov 3, 2021 11:57:24 GMT
I doubt he'd even get a mention if he was at Boreham Wood or Grimsby or someone like that True, but Sorba was at the former last season! As I said before, he looks a far better player than Mark Harris did in his time here and Harris is now at Championship level. That's the only real comparison I have. Mark Harris was 20 years old when he was at Wrexham, and I seem to remember him getting good reviews initially before Keates came in and dropped him. Harris has also improved a lot over the past year or so. Edit: in fact here's a post by yourself praising him during his time at Wrexham: apostlewelshfootie.proboards.com/post/188395/thread
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 3, 2021 12:04:00 GMT
This has got Nsiala and Woodyard written all over it.
There seems to be a new game going on on this forum.
1) We find out that a lower division player is eligible for us
2) We somehow get the impression that this means that they are under consideration for a call up.
3) There’s discussion on here about how ridiculous it is that we’re considering calling these players up above players in a higher division
4) Thr next squad gets named without said lower division players or even a mention from anyone about them being considered as a possibility of us calling them up.
5) We find out another lower league player is eligible for us
6) go to 1)
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 12:04:51 GMT
True, but Sorba was at the former last season! As I said before, he looks a far better player than Mark Harris did in his time here and Harris is now at Championship level. That's the only real comparison I have. Mark Harris was 20 years old when he was at Wrexham, and I seem to remember him getting good reviews initially before Keates came in and dropped him. Harris has also improved a lot over the past year or so. Edit: in fact here's a post by yourself praising him during his time at Wrexham: apostlewelshfootie.proboards.com/post/188395/threadYeah he was a good player for us here but Mullin is different gravy. It's like comparing Bellamy who was a good player for us at international level and had some games that I would say were 'awesome' and Gareth Bale. From what I've seen of Harris, I don't think he's a better footballer than Mullin even now, but it is not difficult to see why he is getting a deserved call-up while Mullin and other players at a lower level aren't.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 3, 2021 12:07:57 GMT
I doubt he'd even get a mention if he was at Boreham Wood or Grimsby or someone like that True, but Sorba was at the former last season! As I said before, he looks a far better player than Mark Harris did in his time here and Harris is now at Championship level. That's the only real comparison I have. Harris has improved massively since the start of last season, never mind compared to when he was at Wrexham If Mullin was about 20 I'd be more inclined to agree with people that maybe he could become a Championship striker, but he's not. He's 27 this month and one fantastic season aside has never really been prolific in League 1 or League 2. I think a lot of people see the goals and assume it's replicable at a higher level but that's not how it works, Eoin Doyle for instance was lethal in League 1, came to the Championship and was rubbish.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 12:10:10 GMT
Kieffer Moore Freddy Eastwood Neil Taylor Sorba Thomas
Unrelated to a point, as I know some of these are incomparable, but a few off the top of my head who rose from the English non-league to being called up to our squad. Any more?
A real shame Lee Trundle was never deemed to be eligible, he would have been an excellent player to watch for us. An example of a player who blossomed later in his career.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 3, 2021 12:15:45 GMT
True, but Sorba was at the former last season! As I said before, he looks a far better player than Mark Harris did in his time here and Harris is now at Championship level. That's the only real comparison I have. Harris has improved massively since the start of last season, never mind compared to when he was at Wrexham If Mullin was about 20 I'd be more inclined to agree with people that maybe he could become a Championship striker, but he's not. He's 27 this month and one fantastic season aside has never really been prolific in League 1 or League 2. I think a lot of people see the goals and assume it's replicable at a higher level but that's not how it works, Eoin Doyle for instance was lethal in League 1, came to the Championship and was rubbish. I just have a bit of faith in the lad, who is the best striker we've had at Wrexham in a long long while. I'm not backing down from my point that I think he could raise his game enough to play in the Championship, if you disagree that's fine. I'd actually rather Wales stay away from Mullin for the time being as should he get a surprise call-up it would mean him missing games for us, for what would likely be a cameo in a meaningless friendly. There's no real right or wrong answer here when talking about whether he could play in the Championship, only opinions and I disagree with a few of you. The only comment I had an issue with was the one that called out his work ethic which has, in fairness, been retracted. As for his age, there are plenty of examples of players who bloomed later in their career, including ones who played for us. It certainly isn't too late for him, even if he only ends up playing a season or two at that level.
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