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Post by hooky on Apr 2, 2023 10:59:05 GMT
because they should not be near the squad unless we have a few injuries. Sorry but he is just nowhere near the level required. Its just my opinion based on what I have seen of him. Same with Liam. Consistency is key and Mullin has it. Of those 3 - seriously - we need a goal with 10mins to go versus Armenia - who is more likely? Aaron Collins - have never seen him play so have no opinion He's consistent in non-league for a side that is completely dominant and far better than almost everyone they play. Those aren't conditions that are likely to be replicated by Wales Liam Cullen has 7 Championship goals this season in about 20 games and is a clear goal poacher as shown by his goal yesterday (and practically every other goal I've seen him score), why is a player who has never played at that level more likely to score? Also, considering Cullen & Harris don't make the matchday squad and likely wouldn't have been in the squad at all had Johnson been fit, they really aren't the competition for Mullin getting on the pitch so it's an almost pointless comparison. The competition is Bradshaw (14 Championship goals), Nathan Broadhead (9 goals this season, equaliser in Croatia) and, when he's back, Brennan Johnson (8 PL goals this season) is also ahead of him As you will have read - the comparison I made was with Harris and Liam only. I probably prefer him to Bradshaw and Broadhead too based on what I have seen. They are making our squad right? I get the difference you make but the goals and variety of goals Mullin scores on a regular basis - I just don't see the others referenced doing that. Many of his goals are just unstoppable certainly up to Championship and to a certain extent International level. Lets just give him a chance to see what he brings. As stated Mullin is consistently excellent - he is like a machine. Sure the tally goes down if he went up the leagues but I'd bet he could score 20 in the Championship in a half decent team - well did he not score in every game against Championship teams in the FA Cup and they put out their strongest teams did they not? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 2, 2023 11:12:30 GMT
He's consistent in non-league for a side that is completely dominant and far better than almost everyone they play. Those aren't conditions that are likely to be replicated by Wales Liam Cullen has 7 Championship goals this season in about 20 games and is a clear goal poacher as shown by his goal yesterday (and practically every other goal I've seen him score), why is a player who has never played at that level more likely to score? Also, considering Cullen & Harris don't make the matchday squad and likely wouldn't have been in the squad at all had Johnson been fit, they really aren't the competition for Mullin getting on the pitch so it's an almost pointless comparison. The competition is Bradshaw (14 Championship goals), Nathan Broadhead (9 goals this season, equaliser in Croatia) and, when he's back, Brennan Johnson (8 PL goals this season) is also ahead of him As you will have read - the comparison I made was with Harris and Liam only. I probably prefer him to Bradshaw and Broadhead too based on what I have seen. They are making our squad right? I get the difference you make but the goals and variety of goals Mullin scores on a regular basis - I just don't see the others referenced doing that. Many of his goals are just unstoppable certainly up to Championship and to a certain extent International level. Lets just give him a chance to see what he brings. As stated Mullin is consistently excellent - he is like a machine. Sure the tally goes down if he went up the leagues but I'd bet he could score 20 in the Championship in a half decent team - well did he not score in every game against Championship teams in the FA Cup and they put out their strongest teams did they not? Yes, and I'm saying it's a pointless comparison when it comes to your argument you'd rather bring on Mullin than those 2 as neither of them make the matchday squad, the true comparison is with the players I listed as they are the ones who actually get in the matchday squad and (occasionally) onto the pitch Any talk of "Mullin could score x in the Championship" is irrelevant until he does it. Plenty of players are prolific at one level but can't do it at the next one, never mind one 2 or 3 levels higher. I'm all for taking a look at him, but lets not throw around these kinds of statements and get ahead of ourselves whilst also disparaging our own players. |
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Post by morg on Apr 10, 2023 16:20:42 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare.
He'd be more than effective at international level.
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Post by hooky on Apr 10, 2023 16:40:56 GMT
One word to sum him up ....
Class
A class player and class human being!
and they have another class act of a player and human being in Ben Foster too!
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 10, 2023 17:09:32 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare. He'd be more than effective at international level. He will be, in June he'll make his debut off the bench |
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Post by paj on Apr 10, 2023 18:12:39 GMT
7 of us watched the game in a pub in Carmarthen. Great entertainment and really enjoyed. Mullin was excellent but watching a National League game live does put everything in perspective. A big jump to international football but he deserves the opportunity though I would not pin my hopes on him if I am truly honest. Hope to be proved wrong though.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2023 18:54:22 GMT
The question feels more relevant now - if he's a League Two striker next season then those saying "we can't call up a NL striker" are you for or against including him then?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2023 18:56:50 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare. He'd be more than effective at international level. He will be, in June he'll make his debut off the bench Sounds like they've planned in a surgery for Mullin for the summer. I imagine he will be undergoing rehab so that he can start the season in time. If he's called up for us it will be beginning of next season |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Apr 10, 2023 20:47:12 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare. He'd be more than effective at international level. To say some of us are getting carried away here might be something of an understatement. How many non-league players are effective at international level? I can't think of any (yes League 2 probably next season but still). |
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Post by manulike on Apr 10, 2023 20:50:45 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare. He'd be more than effective at international level. He will be, in June he'll make his debut off the bench #OH.YES! |
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Post by morg on Apr 10, 2023 20:55:05 GMT
Superb again. Goal and 2 assists. So much industry and intelligence. Defender's nightmare. He'd be more than effective at international level. To say some of us are getting carried away here might be something of an understatement. How many non-league players are effective at international level? I can't think of any (yes League 2 probably next season but still). As I say, I think it's easy to overestimate international level. Had a quick look at Armenia's defence against Cyprus. One played for FC Colne (fair play) others from Armenian and Khazak leagues and Russian 2nd Division. I'm not saying he's the new Messi or that he'd trouble e.g. Guardiol but his nous would give defenders in 75% of games we play a headache. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Apr 10, 2023 21:07:52 GMT
To say some of us are getting carried away here might be something of an understatement. How many non-league players are effective at international level? I can't think of any (yes League 2 probably next season but still). As I say, I think it's easy to overestimate international level. Had a quick look at Armenia's defence against Cyprus. One played for FC Colne (fair play) others from Armenian and Khazak leagues and Russian 2nd Division. I'm not saying he's the new Messi or that he'd trouble e.g. Guardiol but his nous would give defenders in 75% of games we play a headache. Yeah against those kind of teams maybe. But realistically we're competing with Turkey to qualify for the Euro's. That might be a step too far for a lower league player....Idk. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 11, 2023 7:08:20 GMT
Until he's given a go we'll never know but that doesn't appear to be on the cards, a lot of strikers are not involved in the build up of attacks but Mullin gets involved and makes things happen to be fair to him.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 11, 2023 7:11:55 GMT
He will be, in June he'll make his debut off the bench Sounds like they've planned in a surgery for Mullin for the summer. I imagine he will be undergoing rehab so that he can start the season in time. If he's called up for us it will be beginning of next season Came here to say this, he's been carrying a knee injury for most of the season. September seems the most likely. Hopefully we call up some more internationals so we can get the game called off if it happens! |
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Post by iot on Apr 11, 2023 11:45:17 GMT
Sounds like they've planned in a surgery for Mullin for the summer. I imagine he will be undergoing rehab so that he can start the season in time. If he's called up for us it will be beginning of next season Came here to say this, he's been carrying a knee injury for most of the season. September seems the most likely. Hopefully we call up some more internationals so we can get the game called off if it happens! Still have my doubts personally. Will be 2 months shy of his 29th birthday in September, and expected to come in when we're halfway through the campaign with games against Croatia, Turkey and Armenia left to play. So no time to integrate him, it'll be a case of diving right into the deep end. It seems to me that much of his game relies on physical attributes - his energy and running in behind - things that are likely to deteriorate first as he ages. It also seems to me that he really benefits at Wrexham for having the team built around his game. I've seen Wrexham a lot this season and they get a large chunk of their chances through playing the ball over the top for Mullin to run onto. It's not really how we play, so are we going to change our approach to suit his attributes? He would need to play alongside Moore because he's unlikely to be half as effective without a big lump next to him, as Phil Parkinson mentioned in the documentary when they signed Ollie Palmer. So a front two of Moore and Mullin, which I fear would bring down the overall quality too much, basically turning us into a bog standard championship side. They're my concerns anyway. We have the Gibraltar friendly in October, so I wouldn't be averse to testing him out in that. Although I think it would be completely understandable if we wanted to use that game to test other things too. It would be taking the chance away from Bradshaw/Collins/Broadhead for example if we were to start him in that friendly. So it's not quite true when people say there's nothing to lose from testing him out in a friendly. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 11, 2023 14:42:56 GMT
We don't have a way of playing, unless you call hoofball a system.
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Post by majorraglan on Apr 11, 2023 20:13:08 GMT
Until he's given a go we'll never know but that doesn't appear to be on the cards, a lot of strikers are not involved in the build up of attacks but Mullin gets involved and makes things happen to be fair to him. Why not take him to a training camp to have a look at him? On paper it’s unlikely he’s going to be good enough, but with better players around him and some decent defenders to test him he just may prove people wrong. Nothing ventured nothing gained. |
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Post by dai on Apr 11, 2023 20:16:49 GMT
After watching the game yesterday, I wouldn't bet on any of our forwards to slot away that first goal he scored. That's quite a difficult skill to pull off - to stroke the ball in that cleanly requires lots of composure.
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Post by bale-droed on Apr 11, 2023 23:31:19 GMT
After watching the game yesterday, I wouldn't bet on any of our forwards to slot away that first goal he scored. That's quite a difficult skill to pull off - to stroke the ball in that cleanly requires lots of composure. He should’ve been an option to come on for Wilson against Latvia give him a few chances on the edge of the box v Latvia/Armenia and he’d score plenty. His short passing game is also great and not something that’s recognised by Welsh fans. He’d of been creating shots for players in the last 20 v Latvia. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Apr 12, 2023 9:15:48 GMT
We don't have a way of playing, unless you call hoofball a system. Genuine question - have you actually watched us play in the last few years? |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Apr 12, 2023 9:17:37 GMT
They're my concerns anyway. We have the Gibraltar friendly in October, so I wouldn't be averse to testing him out in that. Although I think it would be completely understandable if we wanted to use that game to test other things too. It would be taking the chance away from Bradshaw/Collins/Broadhead for example if we were to start him in that friendly. So it's not quite true when people say there's nothing to lose from testing him out in a friendly. Probably the worst time to try him out IMO. We know he can play against National League standard defenders, what he has never proven is an ability to do it against top level players. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 12, 2023 9:24:14 GMT
We don't have a way of playing, unless you call hoofball a system. Genuine question - have you actually watched us play in the last few years? Er yes, and what system do you call that in the WC which also applies before and after tbh. |
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Post by evans1282 on Apr 12, 2023 10:34:26 GMT
Genuine question - have you actually watched us play in the last few years? Er yes, and what system do you call that in the WC which also applies before and after tbh. I think we have people like you,contrary conts who just want to stir the shit with no factual basis for their"opinions",hoofball? What a joke you are. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Apr 12, 2023 11:40:11 GMT
Genuine question - have you actually watched us play in the last few years? Er yes, and what system do you call that in the WC which also applies before and after tbh. If you think that the way we played against Croatia and Latvia could be described as 'hoofball' you don't understand football. At all. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 12, 2023 11:49:23 GMT
Er yes, and what system do you call that in the WC which also applies before and after tbh. I think we have people like you,contrary conts who just want to stir the shit with no factual basis for their"opinions",hoofball? What a joke you are. You have a different opinion to mine then, and people see what they want to see don't they, I don't expect Pep style but I'd like to see us create more, in fact we have to now Bale has gone, I just don't think the future is as rosy as some may think. |
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Post by evans1282 on Apr 12, 2023 12:01:47 GMT
I think we have people like you,contrary conts who just want to stir the shit with no factual basis for their"opinions",hoofball? What a joke you are. You have a different opinion to mine then, and people see what they want to see don't they, I don't expect Pep style but I'd like to see us create more, in fact we have to now Bale has gone, I just don't think the future is as rosy as some may think. That comment wouldn't have elicited my response,"hoofball" did! |
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Post by cymro on Apr 12, 2023 12:20:44 GMT
I've always thought we should play the Gibraltar game at the Racecourse and get him capped then. Even if he just gets 10 minutes. In 16 months time Wrexham could be a League 1 side, doubt many will have arguments about us playing him then if he's still delivering the goods at club level.
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Post by bale-droed on Apr 12, 2023 12:47:50 GMT
I've always thought we should play the Gibraltar game at the Racecourse and get him capped then. Even if he just gets 10 minutes. In 16 months time Wrexham could be a League 1 side, doubt many will have arguments about us playing him then if he's still delivering the goods at club level. I’m pro Mullin for Wales but seriously playing him against Gibraltar is pointless. We know he’s good enough against them. A friendly against a pot 2/3 nations league team would be a good tester but not this game. Mullin should be an option for us to use to impact games from the bench when we are looking for a goal. He slots nicely into a 442. The Gibraltar fixture should be used to create synergy between the youth who will be starting fixtures for us for the 26 campaign. Start JJ, Luke harris, Colwill, Iwan Morgan. Maybe Lowery and a couple of obvious ones I’m forgetting |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 22, 2023 22:54:52 GMT
Two fantastic goals tonight, 38 goals in the league now, 48 in all competitions. One more game to possibly make it 50 in all competitions
He's no longer a non-league player, I think after he has his surgery it will be the right time to look at him against Gibraltar
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 22, 2023 23:34:20 GMT
Two fantastic goals tonight, 38 goals in the league now, 48 in all competitions. One more game to possibly make it 50 in all competitions He's no longer a non-league player, I think after he has his surgery it will be the right time to look at him against Gibraltar I agree that he may be worth a chance but the problem with him playing, and possibly even scoring, against Gibraltar is that we won’t know any more then we do now. We need to know if he can score against the likes of Turkey or Latvia, or at the very least Armenia. |
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