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Post by 1gwaunview on Jun 7, 2017 11:02:56 GMT
FIFA corruption still in evidence, both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 World Cup ballots should have been re-run.
Infantino still under Blatter's cloud.
Australia would be a choice for somewhere new, they have Aussie Rules and Cricket stadiums capable of refurbishment for football on top of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane stadiums.
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Post by porthcawlred on Jun 7, 2017 11:32:25 GMT
If they kept it as a winter world cup, Australia would probably have a decent chance of hosting it as loads of their proposed stadiums from their bid wouldn't be used by their respective clubs - which seems to have been a stumbling block for them for a while
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 7, 2017 11:38:51 GMT
I really hope this happens, Qatar was a joke selection anyway without all the controversy that's emerged since.
England would be the obvious choice in terms of infrastructure but I don't think FIFA will choose a European host so its most likely to be USA or better still Australia. Both have a growing football culture and plenty of stadiums to use.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 7, 2017 20:00:34 GMT
They have to include Cardiff given how successful the CL was. Look at Scotland too? I'll be happy to include oscardelta's ground in a "British Isles" thing, as long as the Racecourse gets an upgrade and is restored to its former International glory ;-) I know of no such place as "British Isles"........................ piss taker. |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 7, 2017 20:15:43 GMT
Canada would be a good choice i think - surely plenty of decent stadiums in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton etc England for stadiums in decent condition gets my vote............. London has Wembley / Twickenham assumming max 2 stadiums per city, Villa Park, 2 Manchester, 2 Liverpool, Newcastle then add 4 more likely Bristol, Leeds, Midlands stadium and Southampton |
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Post by alternativewales on Jun 7, 2017 22:29:35 GMT
Canada would be a good choice i think - surely plenty of decent stadiums in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton etc England for stadiums in decent condition gets my vote............. London has Wembley / Twickenham assumming max 2 stadiums per city, Villa Park, 2 Manchester, 2 Liverpool, Newcastle then add 4 more likely Bristol, Leeds, Midlands stadium and Southampton Spot on Oscar! Wembley, Emirates, White Hart Lane NEW and Twickenham could be used. Villa Park could do with a lick of paint, however, it's still a quality stadium with good access for Home and Away fans. Went there in 2015 with the Swans. |
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Post by biwmares on Jun 7, 2017 22:40:00 GMT
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Post by zenith on Jun 7, 2017 23:01:46 GMT
England by far the best choice - a great range of grounds:
London - Wembley, Emirates, Spurs new ground, Olympic Stadium, Twickenham
Manchester - either ground
North - St James, Stadium of Light, Riverside, Elland Road
South - Amex, St Mary's, Home Park
Mid - Pride Park, King Power, Hillsborough etc.
Villa Park is in dire need of a refurbishment. Went there in Cardiff's PL season, the facilities were dreadful.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 8, 2017 9:18:36 GMT
If they did move it from Qatar, wouldn't it have to be in Asia under the rotation policy? Surely, Australia would be a shout in that case (as they are classed as Asia rather than Oceania for football). Also China would be capable of hosting the tournament.
I would prefer it closer to home, especially if Wales qualify.
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Post by CymruFach on Jun 8, 2017 18:33:32 GMT
It would have to be China or Australia down South. Went to a game in Shanghai Shenuan a couple of years ago. Great Stadium.
Also USA or Canade but England would be OK, only problem with that is that we would never hear the last of it! 🙂
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 8, 2017 19:25:05 GMT
Canada would be a good choice i think - surely plenty of decent stadiums in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton etc Actually, as someone living in Canada I can confirm that they don't. The big stadiums are cfl stadiums and Toronto play in a stadium I would think isn't acceptable for a FIFA World Cup plus of course you can only use one stadium in one city. Montreal impact use the old Olympic stadium. I'd say Canada only has about 6 stadiums they could use |
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 8, 2017 22:47:53 GMT
Lot of you saying Canada. They are debating a joint bid with USA for 2026/30 they really don't have enough stadiums.
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Post by zombienation on Jun 9, 2017 2:22:17 GMT
I'm in Doha's airport now ready for the flight to Belgrade. The World Cup 2022 will be held here, believe me. They are spending tens of billions of dollars and the stadiums are going up quickly, a completely new metro system connecting the entire country is 18-24 months away from operation and new hotels are opening on a daily basis. Just for good measure, a new city that will house 500,000 people is also nearing completion.
The warning against believing everything you read remains as salient as ever. Remember which Gulf state is behind the current hostility towards Qatar. Stones and glass houses spring to mind.
Safe journies to Belgrade everyone. I'll be there in time for a lunchtime pint.
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Post by wxmjames on Jun 9, 2017 11:42:17 GMT
Once it was given to Qatar, we all thought it would be stripped at some point. Now I think Fifa want to save face and will keep it there barring some massive change.
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Post by jono on Jun 9, 2017 12:11:56 GMT
Qatar would be an experience. But they need to change their Ale laws otherwise it's pointless going.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 9, 2017 13:30:52 GMT
It'll be one big corporate w*nkfest with zero football culture.
Disclaimer: Obviously I'll go if we qualify but c'mon, move it somewhere decent please.
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Post by thewalls111 on Jun 9, 2017 14:06:13 GMT
Qatar would be an experience. But they need to change their Ale laws otherwise it's pointless going.
I'd be much more concerned with them using actual slaves and having horrific laws on their statute books. A girl gets raped? Don't tell the cops, you'll be charged with adultery. They could be swimming in alcohol for all I care but if we (Ireland) qualify, I, in good conscience couldn't attend.
But if other lads want to lend legitimacy to an actual slave state, have at it.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 12, 2017 21:04:45 GMT
But if other lads want to lend legitimacy to an actual slave state, have at it. Bearing in mind the clothes we wear and football shirts etc and where they produced there is little for us to moralise about regarding the slave trade. |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 12, 2017 21:12:16 GMT
Actually, as someone living in Canada I can confirm that they don't. The big stadiums are cfl stadiums and Toronto play in a stadium I would think isn't acceptable for a FIFA World Cup plus of course you can only use one stadium in one city. Montreal impact use the old Olympic stadium. I'd say Canada only has about 6 stadiums they could use The 1 stadium a city rule starts to become an issue once you expand the WC ever further.................... Toyko has stadiums closish together and you could argue that Wembley / Twickenham etc are on different cities as areas run by different councils......... a but tenuous but you want to hold games in stadiums with big capacity with 55,000 being lowest. |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 12, 2017 21:15:08 GMT
Once it was given to Qatar, we all thought it would be stripped at some point. Now I think Fifa want to save face and will keep it there barring some massive change. Easily done if US decides that US companys can not trade with Qatar..................... Coke, McD, Visa, Budweiser etc |
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Post by derynglas on Jun 12, 2017 21:58:22 GMT
If FIFA pulled the World Cup from Qatar youd think theyd be hit with a massive lawsuit due to
the millions having been spent on stadia and infrastructure by the country,its not about
saving face but financial considerations IMO.
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Post by jonathandearth on Sept 28, 2017 14:36:47 GMT
Who is likely to be our stars of 2022?
Stars
Ben Woodburn
Ethan Ampadu
David Brooks
Danny Ward
Probables
Tyler Roberts
George Thomas
Regan Poole
Harry Wilson
Possibles
Mitchell Clark
Chris Mepham
Joe Rodon
Louis Thompson
If you could only put 4 in each group - who would you put in and who would you take out?
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Post by melynwy on Sept 28, 2017 15:08:42 GMT
Stars
Gareth Bale
Aaron Ramsey
Joe Allen
Ben Davies
Probables
Ben Woodburn
David Brooks
Harry Wilson
Ethan Ampadu
Possibles
Emyr Huws
Danny Ward
Tom Lawrence
Tyler Roberts
I think Woodburn and Ampadu will have to be really exceptional to be bona fide stars at 21/22 - especially Ampadu as a defender - but it's possible, and they are two of our most promising talents.
Ben Davies, Tom Lawrence and Emyr Huws are roughly around the same age, but Davies has already reached a much higher level of consistency and experience - he will surely be a star player (you could well argue that he already is)
Bale I hope has the intelligence to adapt with age - in 5 years he will only be a year older than Ronaldo is now, and barring incredible developements, will still be a star player. Ramsey and Allen could well be at the very peak of their game as dominating central midfielders at that time too.
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Post by haruki on Sept 28, 2017 15:17:52 GMT
StarsGareth Bale Aaron Ramsey Joe Allen Ben Davies ProbablesBen Woodburn David Brooks Harry Wilson Ethan Ampadu PossiblesEmyr Huws Danny Ward Tom Lawrence Tyler Roberts I think Woodburn and Ampadu will have to be really exceptional to be bona fide stars at 21/22 - especially Ampadu as a defender - but it's possible, and they are two of our most promising talents. Ben Davies, Tom Lawrence and Emyr Huws are roughly around the same age, but Davies has already reached a much higher level of consistency and experience - he will surely be a star player (you could well argue that he already is) Bale I hope has the intelligence to adapt with age - in 5 years he will only be a year older than Ronaldo is now, and barring incredible developements, will still be a star player. Ramsey and Allen could well be at the very peak of their game as dominating central midfielders at that time too. I expect Bale to end up as a Central Striker which could suit us as we have bags of potential in the attacking midfield roles but not a huge amount immediately at centre forward |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 28, 2017 15:28:29 GMT
How about Gethin Jones (Everton) as another addition to the young contingent for 2022?
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Post by biwmares on Sept 28, 2017 17:48:55 GMT
Luke Pilling could be another addition to the young contingent for 2022?
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Post by oscardelta on Dec 19, 2018 13:28:18 GMT
Today in 4 years time, 19th Dec 2022 will be the DAY AFTER World Cup final.
Imagine in 4 years time if your head is thumping because you have just spent the night celebrating that your team has just won the World Cup.
What do you think you will be doing ?
Planning to be at Final as it is celebrating someone's birthday on that date and would be a nice present.
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Post by welshiron on Dec 19, 2018 14:15:33 GMT
I imagine that I will be having dinner with Peoffrey.
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 19, 2018 14:50:51 GMT
We'd probably all be in Qatari prison cells
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Post by insertname on Dec 19, 2018 14:59:55 GMT
I still can't get my head round a winter world cup. They should go ahead and buy a fake world cup trophy from a market to award to the winner. The winner would also have to be desperate to put the gold star on their shirt and openly associate themselves with this cash grab travesty.
I won't shed any tears if Wales fails to qualify for this nonsense.
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