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Post by eppingblue on Jun 18, 2019 11:48:25 GMT
An Iran Trump war in the next couple of years could still torpedo the whole thing. Wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing debunk to Australia myself.
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Post by pendragon on Jun 18, 2019 12:23:48 GMT
I think the World Cup in Qatar will still go ahead. They've spent billions on infrastructure for it. They will probably relax some of their laws to accommodate it. I can't see them having the capacity to arrest thousands of football supporters. Hooliganism is another matter though but I wouldn't complain if they arrested football hooligans.
In terms of laws, Qatar is more on a par with Dubai than Saudi so it might be tolerable.
Would I go? I don't know but I'll cross that bridge if we manage to qualify for it.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jun 18, 2019 16:08:06 GMT
Mentioned this before anyone who wants to read the dirty deals made with Qatar getting the world cup needs to read "The ugly game" by Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert .
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 18, 2019 18:32:53 GMT
Does any westerner want to go to a world cup where you can only drink inside a hotel at ridiculous prices and then get arrested if the police think you are drunk in public? It needs to move somewhere less fascistic. Their ridiculously backwards laws are not fit for holding one of the worlds biggest sporting events. Will still be cheaper than Copenhagen....
I would expect licensing laws to be "relaxed" for the duration of the tournament.
Police attacking 2000 fans outside a hotel for having a drink means next day there would be 20,000.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 18, 2019 18:35:07 GMT
An Iran Trump war in the next couple of years could still torpedo the whole thing. Wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing debunk to Australia myself. Actions in Persian gulf at moment suggest a limited military engagement is likely to occur. Iran will not be backing down.
Saudi's will be egging this on to destroy game in Qatar.
I see England being asked to stage it in 2022 if Qatar collapses.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 18, 2019 18:36:50 GMT
I think the World Cup in Qatar will still go ahead. They've spent billions on infrastructure for it. They will probably relax some of their laws to accommodate it. I can't see them having the capacity to arrest thousands of football supporters. Hooliganism is another matter though but I wouldn't complain if they arrested football hooligans. In terms of laws, Qatar is more on a par with Dubai than Saudi so it might be tolerable. Would I go? I don't know but I'll cross that bridge if we manage to qualify for it. Hooligans won't travel.
They didn't to Japan or Russia because they knew what happens if get caught, easy enough to disappear in marseille or porto etc. Bit harder when it is well overseas.
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Post by iantov on Jun 18, 2019 18:41:50 GMT
Lovely stuff. I hope everyone involved in the construction was paid a decent wage. 7 hours ago QuotelikePost Options Post by georgetm1 on 7 hours ago Does any westerner want to go to a world cup where you can only drink inside a hotel at ridiculous prices and then get arrested if the police think you are drunk in public? It needs to move somewhere less fascistic. Their ridiculously backwards laws are not fit for holding one of the worlds biggest sporting events. No offence CJ & georgetm1 - a serious question in respect of comparable working conditions / pay structure / hotel prices / public drunkeness etc...but even in Dubai it is a similar story so would that stop you visiting Dubai? |
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Post by georgetm1 on Jun 18, 2019 21:57:02 GMT
Lovely stuff. I hope everyone involved in the construction was paid a decent wage. 7 hours ago QuotelikePost Options Post by georgetm1 on 7 hours ago Does any westerner want to go to a world cup where you can only drink inside a hotel at ridiculous prices and then get arrested if the police think you are drunk in public? It needs to move somewhere less fascistic. Their ridiculously backwards laws are not fit for holding one of the worlds biggest sporting events. No offence CJ & georgetm1 - a serious question in respect of comparable working conditions / pay structure / hotel prices / public drunkeness etc...but even in Dubai it is a similar story so would that stop you visiting Dubai? If a World Cup was being held in the UAE then yes, I would have second thoughts. |
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Post by pendragon on Jun 18, 2019 22:38:35 GMT
I think the World Cup in Qatar will still go ahead. They've spent billions on infrastructure for it. They will probably relax some of their laws to accommodate it. I can't see them having the capacity to arrest thousands of football supporters. Hooliganism is another matter though but I wouldn't complain if they arrested football hooligans. In terms of laws, Qatar is more on a par with Dubai than Saudi so it might be tolerable. Would I go? I don't know but I'll cross that bridge if we manage to qualify for it. Hooligans won't travel.
They didn't to Japan or Russia because they knew what happens if get caught, easy enough to disappear in marseille or porto etc. Bit harder when it is well overseas.
I know! Which means that will be at least one benefit of holding it in Qatar 👍 |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 19, 2019 11:30:21 GMT
Hooligans won't travel.
They didn't to Japan or Russia because they knew what happens if get caught, easy enough to disappear in marseille or porto etc. Bit harder when it is well overseas.
I know! Which means that will be at least one benefit of holding it in Qatar 👍 Assumming Finances are ok I plan to be in Qatar for the whole WC and will look to book 2 games a day in the group stages and everything I can all the way to the final.
Figure it will be in 5 figures for tickets (likely 3 maybe 4 going) and same again for accommodation / food. Course if I can find a "best mate" with accommomdation there for free then even better as would shave the costs considerably.
Best friends b-in-law lives in LA and he says they putting $100 a month away for WC 2026. I think we will go from a compact WC to a WC where 1000 miles between games will be happening.
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Post by rushlegend on Jun 19, 2019 12:00:05 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if they scrapped the Qatar 2022 WC and gave it to UK & Ireland
Wembley Stadium, London,
Principality Stadium, Cardiff
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Old Trafford, Manchester
Anfield, Liverpool
Celtic Park, Glasgow
Olympic Stadium (WHU), London
Villa Park, Birmingham
Tottenham Hotspur, London
In our dreams i suppose!!!
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Post by welshiron on Jun 19, 2019 12:04:36 GMT
It would go to England or Australia
We would not be considered
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 19, 2019 12:19:28 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if they scrapped the Qatar 2022 WC and gave it to UK & Ireland Wembley Stadium, London, Principality Stadium, Cardiff Aviva Stadium, Dublin Murrayfield, Edinburgh Old Trafford, Manchester Anfield, Liverpool Celtic Park, Glasgow Olympic Stadium (WHU), London Villa Park, Birmingham Tottenham Hotspur, London In our dreams i suppose!!! Mate a city can only have 1 stadium so London can’t have 3 |
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 19, 2019 12:22:39 GMT
It would go to England or Australia We would not be considered I live in Adelaide so I can only hope and dream it comes here. The truth is whilst there’s enough big stadiums the reason they failed in that bid was because all the stadiums over 45,000 and the vast majority in the bid were oval shaped and viewed as awful for football. Australia will never get it in our lifetime not with the expansion to 48 and oval dominance. Maybe they could do 2022 if it’s join with NZ but I highly doubt it |
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Post by cadno on Jun 19, 2019 12:39:27 GMT
A World cup in India would be class, hope it happens in our lifetime!
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 19, 2019 13:08:47 GMT
A World cup in India would be class, hope it happens in our lifetime! Again though the vast majority of stadiums are oval it would not be looked on favourably by fifa |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 19, 2019 16:26:49 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if they scrapped the Qatar 2022 WC and gave it to UK & Ireland Wembley Stadium, London, Principality Stadium, Cardiff Aviva Stadium, Dublin Murrayfield, Edinburgh Old Trafford, Manchester Anfield, Liverpool Celtic Park, Glasgow Olympic Stadium (WHU), London Villa Park, Birmingham Tottenham Hotspur, London In our dreams i suppose!!! Mate a city can only have 1 stadium so London can’t have 3 Nope a city can have 2 stadiums................... Moscow had 2 as have other cities in the past.
I would envisage only an England option if was moved unless they changed to a 48 team event.
Russia had 14 stadium so that would be required and would add in Amex / St Mary's / MK Dons / Leicester / Stoke / Newcastle / Sunderland / Twickenham
Bearing in mind it would reduce UEFA places down to 10 (3 Uefa & 1 Host). In Qatar you have a 13/55 change of going, a combined bit excluding Nordies it would be 10/51.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 19, 2019 16:33:07 GMT
A World cup in India would be class, hope it happens in our lifetime! Again though the vast majority of stadiums are oval it would not be looked on favourably by fifa Plus no cricket on them for 3-6 months before.
No chance.
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Post by manulike on Jul 16, 2019 22:11:00 GMT
Any new developments Re: UEFA teams DRAW for this?
Initially, I thought it was earmarked for 17 July ... but obviously, its not ...
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Post by eppingblue on Jul 17, 2019 6:36:36 GMT
Any new developments Re: UEFA teams DRAW for this? Initially, I thought it was earmarked for 17 July ... but obviously, its not ... I thought it was this week but cant find any reference to it at all now. There's a meeting of UEFA in September to work out how they integrate the Nations league into the world cup play offs. I suppose in this instance where the world cup isn't until November they could get away with March play offs. Still a huge disadvantage for fans trying to book very limited accommodation and flights 4 months after everyone else. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 17, 2019 7:33:59 GMT
The official FIFA stance is that our draw date is yet to be confirmed. Asian sides find out today.
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Post by rj14 on Jul 17, 2019 15:45:53 GMT
Any new developments Re: UEFA teams DRAW for this? Initially, I thought it was earmarked for 17 July ... but obviously, its not ... It won’t be until after the Nations League finishes in mid November 2020, as the seedings are based on finishes in that competition. |
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Post by turkpower on Jan 6, 2020 15:38:29 GMT
Escalation of these recent events with Iran could still get the World Cup moved. Fingers crossed(not wishing a huge loss of life though).
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Post by cymroda on Jan 6, 2020 18:02:13 GMT
Escalation of these recent events with Iran could still get the World Cup moved. Fingers crossed(not wishing a huge loss of life though). If this was the case, I'd be a lot more worried at the moment about them moving the Baku game to a safer location. Unless someone drops an atomic bomb in the region there's no way the war would move the tournament from Qatar. |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Jan 8, 2020 12:29:59 GMT
Escalation of these recent events with Iran could still get the World Cup moved. Fingers crossed(not wishing a huge loss of life though). If this was the case, I'd be a lot more worried at the moment about them moving the Baku game to a safer location. Unless someone drops an atomic bomb in the region there's no way the war would move the tournament from Qatar. Baku must be considered a risk right now, possibly more so given its only 5 months away. As close to Iranian soil as Qatar with a Shia muslim population second in proportion to Iran. Even if the Azeri government seems more pro west, there must be a fair few sympathises in the general population and with 30k western football fans on their doorstep some might see it as the best opportunity they'll get. So for those going make sure your insurance is well covered. This could get very dear if it all goes tits up sometime during May. |
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Post by quetzal on Jan 8, 2020 12:35:29 GMT
If this was the case, I'd be a lot more worried at the moment about them moving the Baku game to a safer location. Unless someone drops an atomic bomb in the region there's no way the war would move the tournament from Qatar. Baku must be considered a risk right now, possibly more so given its only 5 months away. As close to Iranian soil as Qatar with a Shia muslim population second in proportion to Iran. Even if the Azeri government seems more pro west, there must be a fair few sympathises in the general population and with 30k western football fans on their doorstep some might see it as the best opportunity they'll get. So for those going make sure your insurance is well covered. This could get very dear if it all goes tits up sometime during May. Unless Azerbaijan were involved hard to see how they would pull the plug on that venue. |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Jan 8, 2020 12:45:34 GMT
Baku must be considered a risk right now, possibly more so given its only 5 months away. As close to Iranian soil as Qatar with a Shia muslim population second in proportion to Iran. Even if the Azeri government seems more pro west, there must be a fair few sympathises in the general population and with 30k western football fans on their doorstep some might see it as the best opportunity they'll get. So for those going make sure your insurance is well covered. This could get very dear if it all goes tits up sometime during May. Unless Azerbaijan were involved hard to see how they would pull the plug on that venue. Lot of unprotected, sitting duck western targets in Baku - mainly connected to the oil industry. If they get hit by a terrorist off shoot in the months or weeks leading up to the tournament then I don't see how EUFA could play it there knowing the risks. |
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Post by cynonvalley on Dec 7, 2021 21:08:47 GMT
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 7, 2021 22:46:14 GMT
I'd be interested to see what the death toll is on each stadium. Such a shame that it's held there, greed wins by a country mile.
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Post by marsvolta on Dec 8, 2021 7:12:44 GMT
I can see a lot of fans saying that they’re not going ‘on moral grounds’ when the reality is that it’s miles out of most of our budgets. |
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