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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 12, 2014 21:45:22 GMT
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Post by abwales on Nov 12, 2014 22:40:56 GMT
So Qatar will be cleared and The FA warned...  |
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Post by yanto on Feb 25, 2015 13:56:29 GMT
Surprised no threads launched on this yet. Anyway, to kick it off I note Phil Neville says its great for his lot and can't help thinking there may be some benefits for us to. We all moan about the power of the EPL and sky dictating where and when - is this going to see them forced into a compromise that means players may be fresher leading up to it? How will this effect the qualifiers - changes the dates to a better or worse time?
At the mo' I quite like the idea as it does challenge the norm - hopefuly not in a 'blue to red' way you understand!
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 25, 2015 14:01:21 GMT
I've always dreamt of seeing Wales at a world cup. But not in fucking Qatar. SO I won't be going. And watching games at home will be a lot less fun in Nov/Dec. The whole big screen/communal event thing...it just won't be the same.
The thing that concerns me most though is that the infrastructure for this WC is being built with slave labour, in deadly conditions. It's absolutely absurd that in the year 2015 this should be the case. That's a much bigger deal than whether to hold a world cup in December or June...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 14:19:21 GMT
It probably won't affect us.
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Post by squatter1 on Feb 25, 2015 14:24:44 GMT
While I think it's absurd they've given the world cup to a despotic feudal nation of slave labourers and misogynists, I don't have a problem with the World Cup being in November.
In fact it is a Euro-centric colonial era restriction to say "the world cup must be played in June/July, thus prohibiting it being hosted in any country unfortunate enough not to be placed in a temperate latitude."
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Post by llannerch on Feb 25, 2015 14:42:31 GMT
In fact it is a Euro-centric colonial era restriction to say "the world cup must be played in June/July, thus prohibiting it being hosted in any country unfortunate enough not to be placed in a temperate latitude." Perhaps. But let's be honest, the beat WCs are in Europe, South America or Mexico because they have a passion and history for the game |
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Post by squatter1 on Feb 25, 2015 15:13:35 GMT
In fact it is a Euro-centric colonial era restriction to say "the world cup must be played in June/July, thus prohibiting it being hosted in any country unfortunate enough not to be placed in a temperate latitude." Perhaps. But let's be honest, the beat WCs are in Europe, South America or Mexico because they have a passion and history for the game True. The worst I can remember was Korea/Japan - getting up at 8am and forcing a beer down to watch the footie really wasn't the best way to enjoy a world cup. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Feb 25, 2015 15:49:50 GMT
Will UEFA accept this though seeing as it will cut into the Champions League and Europa League group stages? Plus FIFA's own World Club Championship is played every year in December. This isn't set in stone as the media would have you believe as it was a recomendation by a FIFA panel.
But on the other hand, if we didn't qualify we would still have a major tournament to watch during the darkest and most depressing time of the year, so I'm not too bad with it. I fucking hate winter!!!!
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Post by georgetm1 on Feb 25, 2015 15:53:56 GMT
One more thing, I don't see how a country with a population of only 1 million and massive social restrictions can hold the biggest sporting event on the planet. Surely being such a devout religious country as Qatar also has a shit human rights record. How do we know visiting supporters will be safe from the authorities there?
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Feb 25, 2015 16:01:17 GMT
what pi55es me off the award the WC to Qatar then all of the sudden they say its to hot ffs, shows how corrupt it is. What happened to the air conditioning stadiums?
If it staged there it has to be moved, its in 2022 so I won't worry to much until 2020 
Wales will qualify for they first world cup 70+ years and most won't be able to afford to go there.
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Post by robin1864 on Feb 25, 2015 16:02:09 GMT
Knowing us, this will be the only one we qualify for in a long time. The one nobody wants to give a fuck about. I'd love to see UEFA and South America boycott it for common sense.
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Post by walesaway on Feb 25, 2015 16:12:11 GMT
The African Cup of Nations would be due to be played in Jan/Feb 2023, so the African nations would have 2 major tournamenta within 3-4 months. Daft.
As pointed out, it will have a significant effect on EC2024 qualifying
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Post by leggybach on Feb 25, 2015 16:15:15 GMT
Don't think there's any problem with it being in Nov/Dec. Squatter hit the nail on the head; it's silly that it should stick to the summer as it eliminates the chance of playing it in a lot of countries, which is unfair. As for the 'breaking the season' line, it's nonsense. Just a longer winter break in some countries and having one here for once. I also like the idea of being able to watch a 3pm lower/non-league game after/before the WC games kick-off!
Pissed off that it's in Qatar as it's a despicable regime and has absolutely no footballing history. No interest in going (although wish I'd have done our friendly there) unless we qualify, which is a shame as I loved Brazil and will be doing Russia, I'm sure.
I think UEFA have agreed the dates as it starts after the end of group stages of the CL.
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Post by cadno on Feb 25, 2015 17:59:46 GMT
I've always dreamt of seeing Wales at a world cup. But not in fucking Qatar. SO I won't be going. And watching games at home will be a lot less fun in Nov/Dec. The whole big screen/communal event thing...it just won't be the same. The thing that concerns me most though is that the infrastructure for this WC is being built with slave labour, in deadly conditions. It's absolutely absurd that in the year 2015 this should be the case. That's a much bigger deal than whether to hold a world cup in December or June... Ridiculous, will some countries refuse to play? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 18:59:52 GMT
I love Russia so I'm hoping we qualify for 2018, we have then got two proper shit tournaments after that in Euro 2020 and Qatar 2022 so hopefully if we have to have another rebuilding phase it can happen during those 4 years when I will lose interest in international football for a while
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Post by ontheroadagain on Feb 25, 2015 19:34:03 GMT
Don't think there's any problem with it being in Nov/Dec. Squatter hit the nail on the head; it's silly that it should stick to the summer as it eliminates the chance of playing it in a lot of countries, which is unfair. As for the 'breaking the season' line, it's nonsense. Just a longer winter break in some countries and having one here for once. I also like the idea of being able to watch a 3pm lower/non-league game after/before the WC games kick-off! Pissed off that it's in Qatar as it's a despicable regime and has absolutely no footballing history. No interest in going (although wish I'd have done our friendly there) unless we qualify, which is a shame as I loved Brazil and will be doing Russia, I'm sure. I think UEFA have agreed the dates as it starts after the end of group stages of the CL. How old were you when we played in Qatar? |
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Post by biwmares on Feb 25, 2015 19:49:46 GMT
I've always dreamt of seeing Wales at a world cup. But not in fucking Qatar. SO I won't be going. And watching games at home will be a lot less fun in Nov/Dec. The whole big screen/communal event thing...it just won't be the same. The thing that concerns me most though is that the infrastructure for this WC is being built with slave labour, in deadly conditions. It's absolutely absurd that in the year 2015 this should be the case. That's a much bigger deal than whether to hold a world cup in December or June... Agree & apparently I read somewhere that over 1000+ Slave labourours have been lost so far in constructing stadiums etc in this ludicrous choice of country. On the subject of slave labour maybe the premiership clubs should start paying the minimum living wage to all staff instead of agents & overhyped players. www.change.org/p/premier-league-pay-all-of-your-staff-a-living-wage?source_location=trending_petitions_home_page&algorithm=curated_trending |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 21:33:44 GMT
Don't think there's any problem with it being in Nov/Dec. Squatter hit the nail on the head; it's silly that it should stick to the summer as it eliminates the chance of playing it in a lot of countries, which is unfair. As for the 'breaking the season' line, it's nonsense. Just a longer winter break in some countries and having one here for once. I also like the idea of being able to watch a 3pm lower/non-league game after/before the WC games kick-off! Pissed off that it's in Qatar as it's a despicable regime and has absolutely no footballing history. No interest in going (although wish I'd have done our friendly there) unless we qualify, which is a shame as I loved Brazil and will be doing Russia, I'm sure. I think UEFA have agreed the dates as it starts after the end of group stages of the CL. How old were you when we played in Qatar? Remember it well: 1-0, John Robinson. |
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Post by leggybach on Feb 26, 2015 1:34:09 GMT
Pissed off that it's in Qatar as it's a despicable regime and has absolutely no footballing history. No interest in going (although wish I'd have done our friendly there) unless we qualify, which is a shame as I loved Brazil and will be doing Russia, I'm sure. How old were you when we played in Qatar? Almost 7..! We were actually on a family holiday in Lebanon and had to find a dodgy internet cafe to check the score! |
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Post by yanto on Feb 27, 2015 13:52:39 GMT
some interesting views and equally interesting that many are rightly pointing out human rights/slave labour issues - a quick look at the Israel threads suggest that those who commented here probably put Israel in the same 'no go' category. If there as a prize for most politically conscious fans we may win it! Apart from the 'going to Israel' contingent. I have a 'fear' that we will qualify for Russian WC and I will have to ponder my politics/conscience against the fascist Putin empire. I have considered requesting FAW change our kit to pink (special tournament edition) and a t-shirt / slogan campaign that we parade around red square along the lines of 'I'm a welsh gay sheep shagger I am'.........
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 6, 2017 19:45:44 GMT
Recent issues between Qatar and neighbouring states look potentially like a repeat of Colombia 1986 World Cup....... who dropped out in 1982 and Mexico jumped in to host it.
Looking around at countrys that could concievably host it given football infrastructure comes up with not a very big list................ US, England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Brazil.
Money would be on England as they have the Stadiums that could easily cater for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:45:29 GMT
They have to include Cardiff given how successful the CL was. Look at Scotland too?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 6, 2017 21:16:41 GMT
They have to include Cardiff given how successful the CL was. Look at Scotland too? There's enough quality stadiums in England to host it. We won't get asked to host a game and neither should we be. France, Germany and Spain are the other European nations who could readily step in and host it based on their current stadiums, but it would be too close to 2006 for Germany and arguably 1998 for France and Spain is an economic shambles at the moment. I guess the US would be England's main opposition here. Edit: Add Italy to that too, but I can't see a world cup being hosted there. |
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Post by manulike on Jun 6, 2017 22:09:14 GMT
They have to include Cardiff given how successful the CL was. Look at Scotland too? I'll be happy to include oscardelta's ground in a "British Isles" thing, as long as the Racecourse gets an upgrade and is restored to its former International glory ;-) |
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 6, 2017 22:16:08 GMT
It won't be in Europe straight after Russia. USA or Australia?
The Qatar bid has been a bit of a joke to be honest. As soon as they turned their back on air conditioned stadiums and streets the bid should have been considered void.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jun 6, 2017 23:28:01 GMT
Oscardelta, great post.
I agree that certain countries are in a great position to step in if, quite rightly, Qatar gets stripped of the 2020 World Cup. The problem is that the same countries would be in contention and that the one than was successful, if a UK country, would improve their stadiums even more thereby increasing the inequality, unless some were offered crumbs or a free place at the World Cup.
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Post by derynglas on Jun 7, 2017 9:31:47 GMT
Allegations of bribery with the bid as well.Whole thing should have been revisited when Blatter was removed.
My moneys on USA if this does happen.
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Post by rushlegend on Jun 7, 2017 10:03:47 GMT
Canada would be a good choice i think - surely plenty of decent stadiums in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton etc
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Post by rushlegend on Jun 7, 2017 10:04:10 GMT
Wasn't the women's WC held here recently?
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