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Post by jbt95 on Oct 27, 2022 18:06:50 GMT
It is the laws of the countries concerned and for you to respect whilst you are there just as you would wish visitors to our country to respect our laws. As previously stated if you feel that strongly about it, don't go. If you do make the decision to protest just remember you made the decision so you must bear any consequences for your actions. Agree , most of us going would rather be somewhere else but it's not... and first time in my life time in wc finals I must go and abide I hope and see a place I would never go to. I been reading dos and donts... its crazy... dont get drunk no swearing I be lucky to make it back lol Are we allowed shorts ? Football shirts as short sleeves? I see no speedos on beach so I unpack the budgie smugglers Yeah we can wear whatever. It’s not as bad as people are making out. It’s not Saudi Arabia. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 27, 2022 18:09:21 GMT
Thank funk as I melt in jeans
Where best information that's acarate..
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 27, 2022 18:10:57 GMT
I’m just thinking of fans of other nations could start kicking off and then before you know it… a full blown riot. Not any from Derby going and they usually take alot of um enthusiastic lads |
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Post by jimmytaff on Oct 27, 2022 18:49:34 GMT
I’m just thinking of fans of other nations could start kicking off and then before you know it… a full blown riot. My guess is with beer not being cheap or freely available, harsh penalties for drugs and purported harsh policing that the hooligans will be giving Qatar a swerve. Also difficult to get in without a ticket |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 27, 2022 19:45:05 GMT
Will I get arrested if I hand out my sheep shaggers of Europe stickers 🤔
It will be not same sex so should be OK lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 20:56:19 GMT
pretty sure shagging goats is ok,it's a cultural thing
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Post by garynysmon on Oct 27, 2022 22:36:38 GMT
Another note, it’s interesting how many people say they are ‘boycotting’ Qatar yet were unlikely to go anyway. Its also noticeable how its fans of countries that have and will qualify for pretty much every World Cup who are leading the calls. Bit different for a small country like us, who have no idea if we'll qualify again in our lifetimes. |
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Post by saints19 on Oct 28, 2022 11:21:50 GMT
We as a Western nation made gay marriage legal 10 years ago. 20 years ago we had a law on our statue book that forbade teaching homosexuality as a family lifestyle in the classroom. 60 years ago it was illegal. And life went on throughout all those periods of time. And Britain was not some force for evil. I certainly don't feel that people should face criminalisation for being gay, but the LGBT issue is not a black and white moral issue. These are conservative socieities which are in many case less economically developed or highly religious, so they place more importance on family relationships than we do in the individualistic West.
I'm not going to Qatar because it's unaffordable, but I would go if I could afford to. I'd feel a lot safer there than in some places in the world, especially the Americas. If you respect their values you'll be fine.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 28, 2022 11:22:15 GMT
Will I get arrested if I hand out my sheep shaggers of Europe stickers 🤔 It will be not same sex so should be OK lol ROFL, now the username makes sense on so many levels, naturally given my username I don't behave in such sinful ways |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 28, 2022 11:58:19 GMT
pretty sure shagging goats is ok,it's a cultural thing What afr 😊 |
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Post by insertname on Oct 28, 2022 15:12:30 GMT
We as a Western nation made gay marriage legal 10 years ago. 20 years ago we had a law on our statue book that forbade teaching homosexuality as a family lifestyle in the classroom. 60 years ago it was illegal. And life went on throughout all those periods of time. And Britain was not some force for evil. I certainly don't feel that people should face criminalisation for being gay, but the LGBT issue is not a black and white moral issue. These are conservative socieities which are in many case less economically developed or highly religious, so they place more importance on family relationships than we do in the individualistic West. I'm not going to Qatar because it's unaffordable, but I would go if I could afford to. I'd feel a lot safer there than in some places in the world, especially the Americas. If you respect their values you'll be fine. Yeah, we seem to have taken it upon ourselves to be the world’s moral arbiter when only a few months ago we had a democratically elected head of state who was no stranger to using the word “pichaninnies”. Whilst I agree with the general thrust of your post I don’t know how you could feel safer than anywhere else, you would just face a different form of threat: lawlessness in the Americas vs excessively punitive legislation for trivial things in the Middle East. Personally I could never relax for 5 minutes in a place like that but then I’ve exercised my choice not to go so not a problem. So I see it as, on the one hand, “when in Rome do as the Romans do” and agree with Cleverly on this issue - it’s their country and laws and it is not our place to change it for them and on the other it is completely freedom of choice if people want to go and subject themselves to the rules of their regressive regime. At the end of the day I’m sure one thing most (if not all) can agree on is that a country with such a regressive regime should never have been allowed to even enter the running to be a host let alone win it. Especially for an organisation that pays lip service to equality and that jazz (although that’s clearly all it is if they are willing to hold a World Cup in a place like that). The issue should be with FIFA rather than with Qatar trying to make it the country we think it should be rather than the place it is. |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 28, 2022 18:39:19 GMT
We as a Western nation made gay marriage legal 10 years ago. 20 years ago we had a law on our statue book that forbade teaching homosexuality as a family lifestyle in the classroom. 60 years ago it was illegal. And life went on throughout all those periods of time. And Britain was not some force for evil. I certainly don't feel that people should face criminalisation for being gay, but the LGBT issue is not a black and white moral issue. These are conservative socieities which are in many case less economically developed or highly religious, so they place more importance on family relationships than we do in the individualistic West. I'm not going to Qatar because it's unaffordable, but I would go if I could afford to. I'd feel a lot safer there than in some places in the world, especially the Americas. If you respect their values you'll be fine. Yeah, we seem to have taken it upon ourselves to be the world’s moral arbiter when only a few months ago we had a democratically elected head of state who was no stranger to using the word “pichaninnies”. Whilst I agree with the general thrust of your post I don’t know how you could feel safer than anywhere else, you would just face a different form of threat: lawlessness in the Americas vs excessively punitive legislation for trivial things in the Middle East. Personally I could never relax for 5 minutes in a place like that but then I’ve exercised my choice not to go so not a problem. So I see it as, on the one hand, “when in Rome do as the Romans do” and agree with Cleverly on this issue - it’s their country and laws and it is not our place to change it for them and on the other it is completely freedom of choice if people want to go and subject themselves to the rules of their regressive regime. At the end of the day I’m sure one thing most (if not all) can agree on is that a country with such a regressive regime should never have been allowed to even enter the running to be a host let alone win it. Especially for an organisation that pays lip service to equality and that jazz (although that’s clearly all it is if they are willing to hold a World Cup in a place like that). The issue should be with FIFA rather than with Qatar trying to make it the country we think it should be rather than the place it is. Brilliant post mate, whether intentionally or not you managed to integrate the phrase "general thrust" into it. Apologies to all but it appealed to my warped sense of humour. |
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Post by jonathandearth on Oct 28, 2022 20:47:26 GMT
An update, I’ve just ordered my t-shirt with the slogan
“DON’T WORRY QATAR!
I ONLY SHAG LADY SHEEP” |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 29, 2022 16:01:05 GMT
Another note, it’s interesting how many people say they are ‘boycotting’ Qatar yet were unlikely to go anyway. Its also noticeable how its fans of countries that have and will qualify for pretty much every World Cup who are leading the calls. Bit different for a small country like us, who have no idea if we'll qualify again in our lifetimes. Costing a fortune, just for 2 games and I be skint by final.🤣 |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 29, 2022 16:06:28 GMT
An update, I’ve just ordered my t-shirt with the slogan
“DON’T WORRY QATAR!
I ONLY SHAG LADY SHEEP” Ewe won't get away with that🙂 |
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Post by insertname on Oct 29, 2022 16:15:55 GMT
Yeah, we seem to have taken it upon ourselves to be the world’s moral arbiter when only a few months ago we had a democratically elected head of state who was no stranger to using the word “pichaninnies”. Whilst I agree with the general thrust of your post I don’t know how you could feel safer than anywhere else, you would just face a different form of threat: lawlessness in the Americas vs excessively punitive legislation for trivial things in the Middle East. Personally I could never relax for 5 minutes in a place like that but then I’ve exercised my choice not to go so not a problem. So I see it as, on the one hand, “when in Rome do as the Romans do” and agree with Cleverly on this issue - it’s their country and laws and it is not our place to change it for them and on the other it is completely freedom of choice if people want to go and subject themselves to the rules of their regressive regime. At the end of the day I’m sure one thing most (if not all) can agree on is that a country with such a regressive regime should never have been allowed to even enter the running to be a host let alone win it. Especially for an organisation that pays lip service to equality and that jazz (although that’s clearly all it is if they are willing to hold a World Cup in a place like that). The issue should be with FIFA rather than with Qatar trying to make it the country we think it should be rather than the place it is. Brilliant post mate, whether intentionally or not you managed to integrate the phrase "general thrust" into it. Apologies to all but it appealed to my warped sense of humour. I’ll take that as a compliment…I think 😂 |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 29, 2022 17:42:28 GMT
An update, I’ve just ordered my t-shirt with the slogan
“DON’T WORRY QATAR!
I ONLY SHAG LADY SHEEP” We make a fortune if I sell them at pride Park |
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Post by manulike on Nov 5, 2022 0:21:17 GMT
OMAN AIR ARE NOW ONLY £112 RETURN FOR MATCH DAY SHUTTLES.
I have been monitering the Match-Day shuttles since September and they have always been £200-£240 return. Most of the one-way flights into Doha from that area are closer to £300!
They still are on Saudi, Etihad, Qatar Air etc.
Not quite sure what, but as of today, Oman Air are 49 OR return, with plenty of availabilty - circa £112.
Muscat still have plenty of 2 star hotels for £30/night and I wrote about the free multiple entry visa on the HAYYA CARD thread.
THE DATE OF TRAVEL ON TICKETS CAN BE CHANGED
PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF JOURNEY WITH USD 30
CHANGE FEE ONTO OTHER MATCH DAY SHUTTLE FLIGHTS
FOR THE SAME PASSENGER ONLY.
Hope this is useful - it sure did save me about £500 ;+)
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