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Post by aberbeeg on May 13, 2023 13:34:12 GMT
Qatar,what a fantastic example of an enlightened govermnment,and didn't brazil bankrupt themselves building for the world cup,and pointless snipes at the english,maybe it's you that need to come into the new century. Spot on |
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Post by cynonvalley on May 13, 2023 15:27:41 GMT
Qatar,what a fantastic example of an enlightened govermnment,and didn't brazil bankrupt themselves building for the world cup,and pointless snipes at the english,maybe it's you that need to come into the new century. What does "enlightened" mean when talking about Qatar? |
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Post by cynonvalley on Jul 28, 2023 14:16:16 GMT
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Post by iantov on Jul 28, 2023 16:00:34 GMT
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Post by jimbo82 on Jul 29, 2023 23:36:55 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 30, 2023 8:41:16 GMT
That sounds grim
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jul 30, 2023 8:53:08 GMT
This whole thing is an horrific idea
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Post by hooky on Jul 30, 2023 10:37:11 GMT
What clown decided to involve Ireland?
Why?
It means one of the home nations may miss out at their expense.
They and Northern Ireland will presumable get twice as many matches as us or Scotland!
Seriously - the Irish don’t like us in general - why do we go out of our way to include them at our expense? What do they bring? No problem with Northern Ireland being involved but why the Republic?
We are our own worse enemies sometimes!
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 30, 2023 20:47:04 GMT
The English World Cup with a token gesture to Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Northern Ireland. They should have HS2 as a sponsor.
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Post by paj on Jul 30, 2023 21:54:17 GMT
Well we are hardly going to have a Welsh World Cup bid are we?
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Post by zserty on Aug 1, 2023 14:44:23 GMT
One or two group games in the Millennium, would rather it held in any European country and travel there for a few games.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 1, 2023 17:41:11 GMT
One or two group games in the Millennium, would rather it held in any European country and travel there for a few games. The principality will probably have around eight games. 6 group games, a round of 16 and a quarter final I would think. Would be amazing to have it full of welsh fans on a barmy June Tuesday early evening. There was talk of it hosting the opening game, which is likely being the second biggest ground (U€FA afterall). |
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 4, 2023 16:51:39 GMT
Looks like this is happening then
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 17:02:21 GMT
One or two group games in the Millennium, would rather it held in any European country and travel there for a few games. The principality will probably have around eight games. 6 group games, a round of 16 and a quarter final I would think. Would be amazing to have it full of welsh fans on a barmy June Tuesday early evening. There was talk of it hosting the opening game, which is likely being the second biggest ground (U€FA afterall). I know people hate the Millennium, but it will be a pretty special occasion to have it packed full for a tournament game. The atmosphere will be amazing. Worth remembering the Italy game and how good that was We'll have to get the players used to it, and that will probably mean taking some games there beforehand, which I imagine won't be the most popular move |
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 17:16:20 GMT
Does anyone know why we had to involve Ireland in our bid?
Personally I would have preferred it just being England and Wales, so we could get more exposure, more games and automatically qualified. However, I understand Scotland and Northern Ireland being involved but why Ireland? It just dilutes the number of games we get and makes it harder for us to qualify automatically. Why? They would never share it with us! Who made that decision?
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 17:26:02 GMT
Also do we have any chance of getting the final? Wembley has had it twice in recent years so hopefully we get a shot. I assume its between us, England and Scotland?
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 17:27:34 GMT
Lets not forget we got left out of the previous Euro finals out of all the home nations and Ireland so we arguably deserve some payback
Hope Laura can weave her magic behind the scenes!
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 17:30:30 GMT
Just saw Wembley has the final.
FFS - why? Second time in less than a decade? Do not understand how that happens
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Oct 4, 2023 18:22:41 GMT
Crazy how the other countries would even entertain being a mere footnote in what’s basically England’s tournament. A few group games and a random Round of 16 for little Cymru no doubt. Insulting.
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 18:53:53 GMT
They basically used us and the others to get yet enough tournament under the sham of inclusiveness?
They probably invited everyone included Ireland to ensure they'd have the big games as we would presumably never agree amongst ourselves.
Is Wembley getting the semis too?
Its surely wrong isn't it? FFS if England got to the final it would still feel like a home match in Cardiff or Glasgow as so many of their fans would be able to attend. Why does it have to be Wembley again? They must have the record or joint record for finals now?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 19:40:29 GMT
Does anyone know why we had to involve Ireland in our bid? Personally I would have preferred it just being England and Wales, so we could get more exposure, more games and automatically qualified. However, I understand Scotland and Northern Ireland being involved but why Ireland? It just dilutes the number of games we get and makes it harder for us to qualify automatically. Why? They would never share it with us! Who made that decision? It's impossible for us to have more games than we'll be getting due to 2 UEFA rules; 1) The stadium has to be bigger than 30k (we only have 2 of these, both in Cardiff) 2) Only 1 host city can nominate 2 stadiums for the bid Obviously that's going to be London because England gets what England wants. But even if it wasn't you'd have Dublin, Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool who all have equally good claims to nominate 2 stadiums as we do so I doubt we'd be prioritised So unfortunately this is the most we could do, and it's not a case of England not sharing in that sense |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 19:40:56 GMT
Also do we have any chance of getting the final? Wembley has had it twice in recent years so hopefully we get a shot. I assume its between us, England and Scotland? No, England gets what England wants. It doesn't benefit England to give the final away so it won't happen |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 19:47:44 GMT
Crazy how the other countries would even entertain being a mere footnote in what’s basically England’s tournament. A few group games and a random Round of 16 for little Cymru no doubt. Insulting. Should get a quarter final too, and possibly the opening game. I mean it's better than never hosting a game right? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 20:07:16 GMT
Pan-Celtic tournament anyone?
Cymru;
Millennium Stadium (74,500)
Cardiff City Stadium (33,000)
Scotland;
Murrayfield (67,000)
Hampden Park (51,000)
Ireland;
Aviva Stadium (51,000)
Páirc Uí Chaoimh (45,000)
Semple Stadium (45,000)
Casement Park (31,000)
Brittany;
Roazhon Park (30,000 - needs to add 222 seats)
Stade de la Beaujoire (35,000)
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 4, 2023 20:10:03 GMT
Does anyone know why we had to involve Ireland in our bid? Personally I would have preferred it just being England and Wales, so we could get more exposure, more games and automatically qualified. However, I understand Scotland and Northern Ireland being involved but why Ireland? It just dilutes the number of games we get and makes it harder for us to qualify automatically. Why? They would never share it with us! Who made that decision? I think what you mean is why England had to involve Ireland in England's bid? They did it to ensure that the English bid won. They knew that the football governing bodies love a multi-country tournament. Anything means that they can spread their British colony just that little further into Ireland is going to get the backing from the Unionist political parties. Making it harder for those Welsh to qualify for the tournament? Well if it means that the English bid wins, then so be it. We should be grateful that they are giving us a few games in their tournament. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 20:11:47 GMT
Does anyone know why we had to involve Ireland in our bid? Personally I would have preferred it just being England and Wales, so we could get more exposure, more games and automatically qualified. However, I understand Scotland and Northern Ireland being involved but why Ireland? It just dilutes the number of games we get and makes it harder for us to qualify automatically. Why? They would never share it with us! Who made that decision? I think what you mean is why England had to involve Ireland in England's bid? They did it to ensure that the English bid won. They knew that the football governing bodies love a multi-country tournament. Anything means that they can spread their British colony just that little further into Ireland is going to get the backing from the Unionist political parties. Making it harder for those Welsh to qualify for the tournament? Well if it means that the English bid wins, then so be it. We should be grateful that they are giving us a few games in their tournament. It makes it easier for us to qualify, not harder |
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 21:15:20 GMT
Does anyone know why we had to involve Ireland in our bid? Personally I would have preferred it just being England and Wales, so we could get more exposure, more games and automatically qualified. However, I understand Scotland and Northern Ireland being involved but why Ireland? It just dilutes the number of games we get and makes it harder for us to qualify automatically. Why? They would never share it with us! Who made that decision? I think what you mean is why England had to involve Ireland in England's bid? They did it to ensure that the English bid won. They knew that the football governing bodies love a multi-country tournament. Anything means that they can spread their British colony just that little further into Ireland is going to get the backing from the Unionist political parties. Making it harder for those Welsh to qualify for the tournament? Well if it means that the English bid wins, then so be it. We should be grateful that they are giving us a few games in their tournament. They surely would not have won without including other countries after hosting the final last time! |
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Post by hooky on Oct 4, 2023 21:16:31 GMT
I think what you mean is why England had to involve Ireland in England's bid? They did it to ensure that the English bid won. They knew that the football governing bodies love a multi-country tournament. Anything means that they can spread their British colony just that little further into Ireland is going to get the backing from the Unionist political parties. Making it harder for those Welsh to qualify for the tournament? Well if it means that the English bid wins, then so be it. We should be grateful that they are giving us a few games in their tournament. It makes it easier for us to qualify, not harder No. Only 2 hosts can automatically qualify. We have 4 counties and Ireland. So involving one more than necessary has not helped us! |
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Post by jimbo82 on Oct 4, 2023 22:00:06 GMT
Also do we have any chance of getting the final? Wembley has had it twice in recent years so hopefully we get a shot. I assume its between us, England and Scotland? I believe Wembley has the final AND both semi-finals. Should have had one semi at Cardiff and one in Glasgow/Dublin IMO. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 22:54:36 GMT
It makes it easier for us to qualify, not harder No. Only 2 hosts can automatically qualify. We have 4 counties and Ireland. So involving one more than necessary has not helped us! I misread your original post apologies. I thought you were saying that 2028 would be harder to qualify for than a typical tournament, didn't realise you were saying including Ireland makes it harder Although if we didn't include Ireland then it's unlikely the 4 home nations would come together to agree on a bid anyway, so if including Ireland gets it over the line, and there are 2 spots up for grabs if we miss out, then technically including Ireland will make 2028 easier to qualify for than not including Ireland and us not getting a bid through |
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