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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 1, 2022 14:11:06 GMT
The latest bit of hearsay:
Will probably mean the final will replace the Belgium home game...potential Friday/Saturday night game!
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2022 15:16:41 GMT
Can I just say who cares what the Scotland team is supposedly worth and what ours is worth, this century we're the only ones that have done anything in an International tournament and less than a year ago they were given home advantage for two of their three games in the Euros and they choked both times. I hope we batter them if we get to play them and to be honest if we get Ukraine I don't think morals come into this, it's football, them going to the World Cup isn't going to change anything, it might be unpopular opinion but whoever we play I want us to batter, if we beat Ukraine 5-0 I would celebrate all night.
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Post by gwernybwch on Apr 1, 2022 15:32:49 GMT
I really thought they'd give us a date before the draw. Smh. So did I. I wonder whether our Noel realises that announcing some unpalatable fixture changes after the WC draw is 'a good time to bury bad news'? |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2022 15:45:45 GMT
Can I just say who cares what the Scotland team is supposedly worth and what ours is worth, this century we're the only ones that have done anything in an International tournament and less than a year ago they were given home advantage for two of their three games in the Euros and they choked both times. I hope we batter them if we get to play them and to be honest if we get Ukraine I don't think morals come into this, it's football, them going to the World Cup isn't going to change anything, it might be unpopular opinion but whoever we play I want us to batter, if we beat Ukraine 5-0 I would celebrate all night. While I'm here I might as well get it off my chest that the whole Eriksen thing got a bit much. Yes it was horrific but he didn't die and he's back playing at the top level already, it seemed like everyone was acting like he'd died and the Danes deserved to be handed the trophy as a result. We had a manager that actually died, in very sad circumstances, I don't remember too many people wishing Wales all the best and a big thing wanting us to qualify for the next tournament, maybe my memory is serving me wrong but that's how it felt. |
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Post by iot on Apr 1, 2022 15:50:37 GMT
Can I just say who cares what the Scotland team is supposedly worth and what ours is worth, this century we're the only ones that have done anything in an International tournament and less than a year ago they were given home advantage for two of their three games in the Euros and they choked both times. I hope we batter them if we get to play them and to be honest if we get Ukraine I don't think morals come into this, it's football, them going to the World Cup isn't going to change anything, it might be unpopular opinion but whoever we play I want us to batter, if we beat Ukraine 5-0 I would celebrate all night. While I'm here I might as well get it off my chest that the whole Eriksen thing got a bit much. Yes it was horrific but he didn't die and he's back playing at the top level already, it seemed like everyone was acting like he'd died and the Danes deserved to be handed the trophy as a result. We had a manager that actually died, in very sad circumstances, I don't remember too many people wishing Wales all the best and a big thing wanting us to qualify for the next tournament, maybe my memory is serving me wrong but that's how it felt. The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2022 15:55:21 GMT
While I'm here I might as well get it off my chest that the whole Eriksen thing got a bit much. Yes it was horrific but he didn't die and he's back playing at the top level already, it seemed like everyone was acting like he'd died and the Danes deserved to be handed the trophy as a result. We had a manager that actually died, in very sad circumstances, I don't remember too many people wishing Wales all the best and a big thing wanting us to qualify for the next tournament, maybe my memory is serving me wrong but that's how it felt. The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. Exactly, it was all fake niceness when it was us against them, everyone love Denmark etc. but the second England got them it was strictly business. Denmark behaved like pricks against us too, the diving and feigning injury/staying down to get play stopped from some of their players was ridiculous given what had gone on with their teammate. Harry Wilson went up in my estimation for his red, he did what I wanted to do, I just wish he'd done it with a bit more malice! |
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Post by insertname on Apr 1, 2022 16:10:11 GMT
While I'm here I might as well get it off my chest that the whole Eriksen thing got a bit much. Yes it was horrific but he didn't die and he's back playing at the top level already, it seemed like everyone was acting like he'd died and the Danes deserved to be handed the trophy as a result. We had a manager that actually died, in very sad circumstances, I don't remember too many people wishing Wales all the best and a big thing wanting us to qualify for the next tournament, maybe my memory is serving me wrong but that's how it felt. The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. Yeah I was thinking about that the other day- it turned out that the Eriksen thing was pretty muted for the England game. Perhaps I’m being unkind and by then it was “old news” in the sense that he was on the mend whereas by the time of our game it was still quite fresh…but yeah, the English media are obviously going to set a narrative that suits them best and cheerleading for Eriksen on the eve of the England game is obviously not the way to do that |
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 1, 2022 16:13:35 GMT
The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. Exactly, it was all fake niceness when it was us against them, everyone love Denmark etc. but the second England got them it was strictly business. Denmark behaved like pricks against us too, the diving and feigning injury/staying down to get play stopped from some of their players was ridiculous given what had gone on with their teammate. Harry Wilson went up in my estimation for his red, he did what I wanted to do, I just wish he'd done it with a bit more malice! We got shit treatment throughout that whole tournament, it was a farce |
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Post by insertname on Apr 1, 2022 16:13:35 GMT
The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. Exactly, it was all fake niceness when it was us against them, everyone love Denmark etc. but the second England got them it was strictly business. Denmark behaved like pricks against us too, the diving and feigning injury/staying down to get play stopped from some of their players was ridiculous given what had gone on with their teammate. Harry Wilson went up in my estimation for his red, he did what I wanted to do, I just wish he'd done it with a bit more malice! Oof 😂 I’m not sure I agree with inflicting injuries through rash challenges…but I got a general vibe that the Danes really let themselves down over our match with them. What annoyed me about it all was that their behaviour in general (arrogant fans, players etc) was ignored almost as if any sense of reproach towards them was out of the question due to what they suffered. Wales were simply the villain of the piece. The only positive bit of support I can recall is Chris Kamara saying he’d wear a Wales shirt on TV if we won. Fair play to him, a rare bit of support from the English media in the midst of that Denmark game. |
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Post by insertname on Apr 1, 2022 16:14:37 GMT
Exactly, it was all fake niceness when it was us against them, everyone love Denmark etc. but the second England got them it was strictly business. Denmark behaved like pricks against us too, the diving and feigning injury/staying down to get play stopped from some of their players was ridiculous given what had gone on with their teammate. Harry Wilson went up in my estimation for his red, he did what I wanted to do, I just wish he'd done it with a bit more malice! We got shit treatment throughout that whole tournament, it was a farce Our treatment isn’t much better this time round with the way things are going |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 1, 2022 17:49:05 GMT
The latest bit of hearsay: Will probably mean the final will replace the Belgium home game...potential Friday/Saturday night game! I wouldn’t put the following weekend out of the question either. And if it is the Fri or Saturday I don’t see it being the Friday as that is a very short turnaround. I suspect final on 11th and Netherlands away on the 14th. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 1, 2022 18:37:32 GMT
The latest bit of hearsay: Will probably mean the final will replace the Belgium home game...potential Friday/Saturday night game! I wouldn’t put the following weekend out of the question either. And if it is the Fri or Saturday I don’t see it being the Friday as that is a very short turnaround. I suspect final on 11th and Netherlands away on the 14th. Netherlands away having just qualified for the World Cup? I've had worse weekends... |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 1, 2022 19:48:51 GMT
The thing that angered me was the amount of emphasis the British media placed on it in the build up to our match against them, to the detriment of building support for us, but when it was England's turn the tone and emphasis was completely different - it had moved from being the central theme to the build-up for our match to nothing more than a passing reference in theirs. Yeah I was thinking about that the other day- it turned out that the Eriksen thing was pretty muted for the England game. Perhaps I’m being unkind and by then it was “old news” in the sense that he was on the mend whereas by the time of our game it was still quite fresh…but yeah, the English media are obviously going to set a narrative that suits them best and cheerleading for Eriksen on the eve of the England game is obviously not the way to do that That's the thing. Wales gets an English media. We're currently a county of England. We can do better. |
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Post by morg on Apr 1, 2022 19:58:09 GMT
Yeah I was thinking about that the other day- it turned out that the Eriksen thing was pretty muted for the England game. Perhaps I’m being unkind and by then it was “old news” in the sense that he was on the mend whereas by the time of our game it was still quite fresh…but yeah, the English media are obviously going to set a narrative that suits them best and cheerleading for Eriksen on the eve of the England game is obviously not the way to do that That's the thing. Wales gets an English media. We're currently a county of England. We can do better. Danish family abused on a bus and lasers pointed at Schmeicel are what I remember. So yeah, think the English had tired of sympathy by then  |
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Post by cynonvalley on Apr 1, 2022 20:08:26 GMT
Getting very frustrated by the lack of a date!
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 1, 2022 20:14:30 GMT
Getting very frustrated by the lack of a date! We will know within the next fortnight I would say. |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 1, 2022 21:13:29 GMT
Getting very frustrated by the lack of a date! We will know within the next fortnight I would say. They should have had this all sorted before agreeing to the postponement. If it were that difficult, postponing was a mistake. also shows the lack of mental capacity of anyone suggesting Wales Austria should have been postponed. |
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 1, 2022 21:18:55 GMT
We will know within the next fortnight I would say. They should have had this all sorted before agreeing to the postponement. If it were that difficult, postponing was a mistake. also shows the lack of mental capacity of anyone suggesting Wales Austria should have been postponed. I guess they couldn't decide properly until they knew if it was us or Austria whose nations league fixtures would be affected. |
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 1, 2022 21:45:51 GMT
The play off games will be reported on Sky and BBC from an Engerland perspective.
Who will be playing England etc which is a bit galling.
Sky will probably be referencing England all through the commentary on the final and will probably have England faces in the studio to analyse.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 1, 2022 21:46:59 GMT
The play off games will be reported on Sky and BBC from an Engerland perspective. Who will be playing England etc which is a bit galling. Sky will probably be referencing England all through the commentary on the final and will probably have England faces in the studio to analyse. Watch it on S4C then. |
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 1, 2022 21:50:10 GMT
The play off games will be reported on Sky and BBC from an Engerland perspective. Who will be playing England etc which is a bit galling. Sky will probably be referencing England all through the commentary on the final and will probably have England faces in the studio to analyse. Watch it on S4C then. Stupid comment, I will be at the game. The point is the disrespect that will be shown to the other nations. |
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Post by cynonvalley on Apr 1, 2022 22:04:10 GMT
That's the problem with the UK.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 1, 2022 22:16:15 GMT
Stupid comment, I will be at the game. The point is the disrespect that will be shown to the other nations. So you're moaning that an English media channel will have an England bias? Astounding. And don't give me any crap about how the media should be neutral. Naive at best. |
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 1, 2022 22:31:03 GMT
Stupid comment, I will be at the game. The point is the disrespect that will be shown to the other nations. So you're moaning that an English media channel will have an England bias? Astounding. And don't give me any crap about how the media should be neutral. Naive at best. Get back in your cage for God's sake, I wasn't moaning, I was stating the situation as many others have done on this and many other threads. By the way Sky us a UK media outlet NOT an 'English Media Channel' |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 1, 2022 22:34:53 GMT
They should have had this all sorted before agreeing to the postponement. If it were that difficult, postponing was a mistake. also shows the lack of mental capacity of anyone suggesting Wales Austria should have been postponed. I guess they couldn't decide properly until they knew if it was us or Austria whose nations league fixtures would be affected. If that was the only issue, they could have still announce in advance (Mooney was expecting it three weeks ago) or at worst, at some point in the last 7 days. It should have been sorted before agreeing to the postponement. Kicking the can down the road doesn’t work |
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Post by welshowl on Apr 1, 2022 22:38:03 GMT
Quick questions: Is it possible, given the likely high tensions in Scotland-v-Ukraine SF that there may be a plethora of yellow cards (even a red, maybe)? If so, and with possible injuries being picked up, could potentially key Sc/Uk players miss out when facing us? Suspensions via yellow cards, no, because they've been scrapped for the playoffs. Why would the match be played with high tension? I'd probably say it would be less tense given the respect Scotland will have for Ukraine after what they've been through. Ukraine will give it their all I expect/hope - no walkover as lots of Scots seem to think. Ukraine will want to show the world they are proud to still exist, and to be at the World Cup when Russia are not. I'm hoping it will be a tough, close, 120 minute match and whoever wins will have a player or two missing for the trip to Cardiff (injuries more likely than a red card).
Scots have a strong midfield (stronger than Austria) but their defence is their weak point. Hopefully Page will have a plan if that is who we end up facing.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Apr 2, 2022 6:38:22 GMT
So you're moaning that an English media channel will have an England bias? Astounding. And don't give me any crap about how the media should be neutral. Naive at best. Get back in your cage for God's sake, I wasn't moaning, I was stating the situation as many others have done on this and many other threads. By the way Sky us a UK media outlet NOT an 'English Media Channel' UK = England. It's time we all woke up to this. We'll never be equals in the UK. Sorry if I have offended you with my bluntness earlier. |
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Post by Toffeeman on Apr 2, 2022 8:16:32 GMT
I wouldn’t put the following weekend out of the question either. And if it is the Fri or Saturday I don’t see it being the Friday as that is a very short turnaround. I suspect final on 11th and Netherlands away on the 14th. Netherlands away having just qualified for the World Cup? I've had worse weekends... The Scots seem to be confident that the semi final will be held on the weekend of the 6/7th (of course this could be what they are hoping for).Mark Chapman also quoted this date yesterday.On the other hand Pagey made a comment that he expects the final to be earlier in June. |
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 2, 2022 22:28:27 GMT
Get back in your cage for God's sake, I wasn't moaning, I was stating the situation as many others have done on this and many other threads. By the way Sky us a UK media outlet NOT an 'English Media Channel' UK = England. It's time we all woke up to this. We'll never be equals in the UK. Sorry if I have offended you with my bluntness earlier. No worries. We are all on the same side.👍🏴 |
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Post by CymruFach on Apr 2, 2022 22:30:56 GMT
Watching the news tonight and seeing the scramble by England fans for tickets, I hope that they will be holding some back for whoever the opposition is.
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