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Post by North Wales Dragon on Apr 2, 2022 23:23:22 GMT
Don't worry about England there the biggest joke in international football, "so called founders of football" won fuck all in modern times, can't wait if we get there play them bunch of Lossers.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 3, 2022 9:07:08 GMT
Don't worry about England there the biggest joke in international football, "so called founders of football" won fuck all in modern times, can't wait if we get there play them bunch of Lossers. Made it to the semis once at a tournament played outside of England. They can't do anything unless they have all their games at home. Absolute rubbish |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 3, 2022 9:29:04 GMT
Don't worry about England there the biggest joke in international football, "so called founders of football" won fuck all in modern times, can't wait if we get there play them bunch of Lossers. Made it to the semis once at a tournament played outside of England. They can't do anything unless they have all their games at home. Absolute rubbish Twice. Sadly. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 3, 2022 9:32:01 GMT
Made it to the semis once at a tournament played outside of England. They can't do anything unless they have all their games at home. Absolute rubbish Twice. Sadly. When was the first time? |
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Post by morg on Apr 3, 2022 10:13:25 GMT
1990. Waddle penalty miss v Germany n all that.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 3, 2022 17:35:32 GMT
The wait goes on:
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 3, 2022 17:37:55 GMT
Looks like we’re playing all five games in June. I would have thought that at least one game would be moved to September. |
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Post by cymro on Apr 3, 2022 18:32:51 GMT
Just hope the playoff final is game 1 or 2 of the block of 5 games. If it ends up being the 4th or 5th game then we are surely going to play understrength/unmotivated for the nations league games as rightly so, the playoff final result is all that matters right now in my mind. It would be nice to have a good go in League A of the NL but world cup takes priority.
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Post by welshrover on Apr 3, 2022 18:45:02 GMT
Just hope the playoff final is game 1 or 2 of the block of 5 games. If it ends up being the 4th or 5th game then we are surely going to play understrength/unmotivated for the nations league games as rightly so, the playoff final result is all that matters right now in my mind. It would be nice to have a good go in League A of the NL but world cup takes priority. But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. |
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Post by maelor on Apr 3, 2022 19:37:42 GMT
It's ridiculous to expect us to play 5 games in the window. (Even more ridiculous for the Scots/Ukrainians to have to play 6.) As pointed out above it will hugely disadvantage us for the Nations League games and, by the looks of it, will mean moving the dates of all the games to fit an extra one in - thereby stuffing all the fans (of all teams) who have booked flights/accommodation for the original dates. There needs to be a more sympathetic approach imho.It shouldn't just fall on Wales/Scot/Ukr to take the hit - it's none of our faults and other nations should have to take their share of disruption. Postponing one Nations League game surely makes more sense. |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 3, 2022 20:41:18 GMT
Just hope the playoff final is game 1 or 2 of the block of 5 games. If it ends up being the 4th or 5th game then we are surely going to play understrength/unmotivated for the nations league games as rightly so, the playoff final result is all that matters right now in my mind. It would be nice to have a good go in League A of the NL but world cup takes priority. But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. No it doesn’t. We are at least pot two for euro 24. |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 3, 2022 20:58:22 GMT
It's ridiculous to expect us to play 5 games in the window. (Even more ridiculous for the Scots/Ukrainians to have to play 6.) As pointed out above it will hugely disadvantage us for the Nations League games and, by the looks of it, will mean moving the dates of all the games to fit an extra one in - thereby stuffing all the fans (of all teams) who have booked flights/accommodation for the original dates. There needs to be a more sympathetic approach imho.It shouldn't just fall on Wales/Scot/Ukr to take the hit - it's none of our faults and other nations should have to take their share of disruption. Postponing one Nations League game surely makes more sense. There is obviously (by this I mean it is now apparent) no scope in September due to agreement with clubs. This all tells me that my initial reaction was right and the play offs shouldn’t have been postponed as rearranging was too difficult. |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 3, 2022 21:02:53 GMT
It makes the most sense in terms of limiting disruption to the NL. The Netherlands game could then be squeezed into the September window. Looks like the 4th now, causing even less disruption. Only 2 NL games in our group would move. CCS isn’t available though |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 3, 2022 21:47:05 GMT
But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. No it doesn’t. We are at least pot two for euro 24. Please note the word "future" in my original post, the future goes beyond 2024 last time I looked unless you know that Vlad has his finger on the red button! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 3, 2022 21:58:37 GMT
But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. No it doesn’t. We are at least pot two for euro 24. Don't we have to just come 3rd in the group and then we're pot 1 for Euro 2024? It's a great incentive Obviously World Cup is our number 1 priority, but if we can get by rotating our squad and maybe pick up the odd draw, and then look to target the Poland games to clinch 3rd then that would be the ideal result |
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Post by pclaude on Apr 4, 2022 4:33:37 GMT
No it doesn’t. We are at least pot two for euro 24. Please note the word "future" in my original post, the future goes beyond 2024 last time I looked unless you know that Vlad has his finger on the red button! Fair point. Once we win the WC, that will pale into insignificance though! |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 4, 2022 6:28:27 GMT
Please note the word "future" in my original post, the future goes beyond 2024 last time I looked unless you know that Vlad has his finger on the red button! Fair point. Once we win the WC, that will pale into insignificance though! Must admit I'm not a great one for working out seedings etc, usually rely on people on here but I notice you say "at least" pot two for Euro 2024. Does the at least imply that if we were to have a really good Nations League / World Cup we could be higher or are the groups for 2024 qualification based on today's seedings? My old brain doesn't appear able to keep up 🙂 |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 4, 2022 7:44:23 GMT
Looks like the 4th now, causing even less disruption. Only 2 NL games in our group would move. CCS isn’t available though You're right, my source must be wrong. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 4, 2022 7:54:46 GMT
It's a right pisstake this.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 4, 2022 8:10:07 GMT
Yep. If Ukraine were in the Italy and Portugal play offs this would have been resolved by now.
Not blaming the FAW, UEFA and FIFA only listen to the loudest (richest) voices
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Post by pclaude on Apr 4, 2022 10:03:50 GMT
Fair point. Once we win the WC, that will pale into insignificance though! Must admit I'm not a great one for working out seedings etc, usually rely on people on here but I notice you say "at least" pot two for Euro 2024. Does the at least imply that if we were to have a really good Nations League / World Cup we could be higher or are the groups for 2024 qualification based on today's seedings? My old brain doesn't appear able to keep up 🙂 I’m assuming that as with Euro 2020, the nations league rankings, not fifa rankings, will determine pots. So we are guaranteed to be at least 16th. With 10 teams in the first 5 pots. |
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Post by cymro on Apr 4, 2022 10:16:17 GMT
Just hope the playoff final is game 1 or 2 of the block of 5 games. If it ends up being the 4th or 5th game then we are surely going to play understrength/unmotivated for the nations league games as rightly so, the playoff final result is all that matters right now in my mind. It would be nice to have a good go in League A of the NL but world cup takes priority. But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. I would take qualifying for this world cup and then missing out on the next couple of tournaments. If we don't do it this time then I don't know when we ever will. One game away and possibly the best squad we'll ever have. With the expanded Euros I think we'll make those semi regularly in the future. World cup is the holy grail. My dad is 60 this year and has never seen Wales at a world cup. I don't want that to be me! |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 4, 2022 10:24:10 GMT
From my understanding, to guarantee a top seed spot for 2024 qualifying we just need to be one of the best 10 teams in this Nations League, so ideally we need to be picking up a few points and avoiding relegation. I think we're still capable of a point out in Poland even with a fringe side, but we'll struggle against Netherlands and Belgium.
Worst case (and most likely) scenario, is that we're 2nd seeds for the Euros qualifying where the top 2 go through automatically anyway. I'd be mightily disappointed if we missed out on it, imagine how good Germany 2024 would be?
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 4, 2022 10:30:29 GMT
But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. I would take qualifying for this world cup and then missing out on the next couple of tournaments. If we don't do it this time then I don't know when we ever will. One game away and possibly the best squad we'll ever have. With the expanded Euros I think we'll make those semi regularly in the future. World cup is the holy grail. My dad is 60 this year and has never seen Wales at a world cup. I don't want that to be me! Why should it even have to be an option of prioritising one tournament or another. We need to stand up to UEFA here, we should be able to get Nations League games postponed so we're not playing five internationals in one window. Scotland and Ukraine the same for their six games. A big nation wouldn't accept it. |
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 4, 2022 12:45:37 GMT
I think Ukraine will pull out of the nations league myself, UEFA may even tell them to.
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Post by pclaude on Apr 4, 2022 13:34:39 GMT
I would take qualifying for this world cup and then missing out on the next couple of tournaments. If we don't do it this time then I don't know when we ever will. One game away and possibly the best squad we'll ever have. With the expanded Euros I think we'll make those semi regularly in the future. World cup is the holy grail. My dad is 60 this year and has never seen Wales at a world cup. I don't want that to be me! Why should it even have to be an option of prioritising one tournament or another. We need to stand up to UEFA here, we should be able to get Nations League games postponed so we're not playing five internationals in one window. Scotland and Ukraine the same for their six games. A big nation wouldn't accept it. A big nation would have ensured no Ukraine postponement. Let's be clear about that. Also, if we are being brutally honest, if that meant a Scottish bye, they probably (not definitely) would have beaten us in the final. The advantage would be huge. The delay has suited us. Which of course becomes an issue in the WC itself. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 4, 2022 15:34:57 GMT
But does it, four spankings in the Nations League sees our seeding spiral for future qualification groups. I would take qualifying for this world cup and then missing out on the next couple of tournaments. If we don't do it this time then I don't know when we ever will. One game away and possibly the best squad we'll ever have. With the expanded Euros I think we'll make those semi regularly in the future. World cup is the holy grail. My dad is 60 this year and has never seen Wales at a world cup. I don't want that to be me! Cymro, I am 66 myself now, born in 1956, so was alive when we last went to the World Cup but as only two at the time obviously it doesn't register 🙂 I too am desperate to see it in my lifetime. However last week's Dafydd Iwan moment with so many people joining in a Welsh song shows how far we have come in regaining our identity in my lifetime which pleased me no end. Despite my grandparents speaking no English, my dad being a Welsh speaker I was raised only speaking English and over the years seeing the erosion of the Welsh language was heartbreaking but I believe there is hope for the future so even if I don't see a World Cup, more importantly I am witnessing a resurgence in Welsh identity (hunanaith). Whilst Capel Celyn was a disaster / outrage at the time I firmly believe it was the catalyst that reignited the fire in the belly for a lot of Welsh folk. Apologies if I am rambling!! |
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Post by quetzal on Apr 4, 2022 15:42:14 GMT
Morning here in Latin America. Everytime I wake up I expect this to be sorted. Scots and Ukraine fighting for 1 game in June and 1 in September. That’s what I reckon. Panini stickers must be pissed off!
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Post by cynonvalley on Apr 4, 2022 16:23:32 GMT
Dynamo Kyiv are planning to play friendlies against various European clubs after this season is finished. Interesting. Not sure what team they would field.
The national team had plenty of call ups of Dynamo players.
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Post by pclaude on Apr 4, 2022 19:49:22 GMT
Morning here in Latin America. Everytime I wake up I expect this to be sorted. Scots and Ukraine fighting for 1 game in June and 1 in September. That’s what I reckon. Panini stickers must be pissed off! You may be right but I think that’s off the table now. It could easily be another NL affected side that’s causing the issue. |
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