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Post by iantov on Jun 1, 2022 19:22:10 GMT
They should have been two up in the first 15 mins and are deservedly now 1-0 up
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 1, 2022 19:22:59 GMT
Yarmolenko goal
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Post by quetzal on Jun 1, 2022 19:23:04 GMT
Just had a quick look and odds unavailable for new date but old date ‘The previous odds at Bet365 had Scotland priced at 2.37 with Ukraine available at 2.90 and a draw set at 3.40.’ Tierney is out. That is a blow. I think the emotional factor gives Ukraine an edge. Honestly. Look at the Danes after the Eriksen story! Scotland score first. But I think 2-1 to Ukraine after extra time. How many of Ukraine’s first 11 play outside Ukraine? People are talking about match fitness but surely 3 or 4 play outside anyway. Austria were slight favorites against Wales. I couldn’t work that out. Warned you |
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 19:24:06 GMT
Honestly reckon Bale, James, Ramsey and Johnson would ruin this Scotland back line today. It's really really unimpressive.
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Post by melynwy on Jun 1, 2022 19:25:18 GMT
With the likes of Davies, Bale, Ramsey, Allen etc,looking to retire shortly What?! Bale maybe, but Ben Davies isn’t even 30 yet! |
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:25:50 GMT
Why do I get the feeling this is going to be another random entry in the annals of Welsh footballing failure, right up there with floodlight failures and hitting the bar.
“Invaded country finds 6th gear even they didn’t know they had to power their way to the World Cup at the expense of sorry Wales” 😕
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:26:44 GMT
Honestly reckon Bale, James, Ramsey and Johnson would ruin this Scotland back line today. It's really really unimpressive. The positive for me is Scotland don’t have much pace, we’ll have an extra dimension of threat for Ukraine to deal with. |
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 19:29:59 GMT
Honestly reckon Bale, James, Ramsey and Johnson would ruin this Scotland back line today. It's really really unimpressive. The positive for me is Scotland don’t have much pace, we’ll have an extra dimension of threat for Ukraine to deal with. Honestly we have a lot more X factor up front in general than Scotland. |
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:32:05 GMT
The positive for me is Scotland don’t have much pace, we’ll have an extra dimension of threat for Ukraine to deal with. Honestly we have a lot more X factor up front in general than Scotland. Yeah we’ll definitely offer more *in theory* But this game is a complete lesson in what can happen if you, as the home team, don’t handle the occasion. Scotland really aren’t coping with the knock out context, but they’re also not coping with playing during such an emotional context. |
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Post by dai on Jun 1, 2022 19:34:20 GMT
I think I expected Ukraine to be technically superior, but I expected more from Scotland. They seem completely overwhelmed. Still a long way to go though
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 19:37:17 GMT
Scotland have really done fuck all against quality teams. Their win against Denmark was against a very much B squad and apart from that they managed a draw against England.
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:37:44 GMT
I actually have a bit of sympathy here with Scotland. Ukraine’s last competitive game was months ago- yet they look as well drilled as a club side. There’s plenty of evidence here that their ability to have a month long camp has benefited them. That might balance out as it seems the commentators are expecting Ukraine to tire. They look like they could run all night from where I’m sitting.
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 19:39:15 GMT
Yeah we’ll definitely offer more *in theory* But this game is a complete lesson in what can happen if you, as the home team, don’t handle the occasion. Scotland really aren’t coping with the knock out context, but they’re also not coping with playing during such an emotional context. I think we're much better equipped for it than Scotland if I'm honest, we've managed to do what's required at home in all of our crunch matches since Ireland and Bale is the ultimate "big game" player. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 1, 2022 19:42:23 GMT
I was thinking the same. Do Scotland only show up against England or something? I was expecting a bit more passion from both teams really. Its like watching game 15 of the Premier League. Its a massive opportunity for a World Cup, get yourselves stuck in.
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Post by saturn9 on Jun 1, 2022 19:43:56 GMT
Argentina 2 up on Italy. Solid at the back, looking one of potentially 4 teams that could win the WC
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:45:09 GMT
Yeah we’ll definitely offer more *in theory* But this game is a complete lesson in what can happen if you, as the home team, don’t handle the occasion. Scotland really aren’t coping with the knock out context, but they’re also not coping with playing during such an emotional context. I think we're much better equipped for it than Scotland if I'm honest, we've managed to do what's required at home in all of our crunch matches since Ireland and Bale is the ultimate "big game" player. Totally agree with that. I was really confident whoever we played but seeing how slick Ukraine are…they are playing with the swagger of a team who know they can’t lose. I’m less confident at the moment but we’ll certainly give them different problems. And we definitely shouldn’t get caught by a long ball over the top! It all depends on if we freeze and home advantage works against us early on like with Scotland. If we start poorly Ukraine will be all over us. |
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Post by dai on Jun 1, 2022 19:54:09 GMT
It's all going t*ts up for Scotland now.
Saying that, this form Ukraine are showing isn't good news for us.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 1, 2022 19:54:32 GMT
Game over, Scotland haven't turned up
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 1, 2022 19:55:49 GMT
For all the talk of Gilmour and McGinn they've been shit
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Post by underwood on Jun 1, 2022 19:56:38 GMT
The Scots are performing precisely as they did against the Czechs & Croatia in Euro 2020 & are being crucified.
Ukraine are handy & we could really do with the Jocks getting into them now, otherwise they are getting a free ride into the final.
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 19:56:58 GMT
I think we're much better equipped for it than Scotland if I'm honest, we've managed to do what's required at home in all of our crunch matches since Ireland and Bale is the ultimate "big game" player. Totally agree with that. I was really confident whoever we played but seeing how slick Ukraine are…they are playing with the swagger of a team who know they can’t lose. I’m less confident at the moment but we’ll certainly give them different problems. And we definitely shouldn’t get caught by a long ball over the top! It all depends on if we freeze and home advantage works against us early on like with Scotland. If we start poorly Ukraine will be all over us. Honestly Scotland look useless. Ukraine are quite slick but they're really not being challenged at all. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 1, 2022 19:57:13 GMT
Scotland just gotta wake up. They can get back in it, it's only 2 goals.
They have been shite so far though.
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 19:59:02 GMT
Game over, Scotland haven't turned up That’s a factor but it was considered that Ukraine would be unfit and disorganised- they look anything but. Certainly no fitness issues. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 1, 2022 20:01:32 GMT
Game over, Scotland haven't turned up That’s a factor but it was considered that Ukraine would be unfit and disorganised- they look anything but. Certainly no fitness issues. Sure, but it's helped Ukraine massively that Scotland have offered absolutely nothing. They've gotten nowhere near them and look like a parks team |
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 20:03:18 GMT
Their goalkeeper, Bushchan, is a weak link for sure, I remember him from
the Euros. Very erratic under pressure
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Post by underwood on Jun 1, 2022 20:03:32 GMT
Ukraine have 64% possession, 4 shots on target to nil, 5 corners to 2, they are not being threatened at all & can probably make some early subs now.
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Post by hc16040 on Jun 1, 2022 20:05:24 GMT
Honestly all we can hope for is the Scots kick 7 shades of shit out of the Ukrainian lads and injure a few of them.
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Post by insertname on Jun 1, 2022 20:07:20 GMT
That’s a factor but it was considered that Ukraine would be unfit and disorganised- they look anything but. Certainly no fitness issues. Sure, but it's helped Ukraine massively that Scotland have offered absolutely nothing. They've gotten nowhere near them and look like a parks team Scotland are now organised like they were against Denmark but they are still comfortably second best. Ukraine are a team that hasn’t played in a competitive capacity for months I should add. I don’t want to criticise because of the war they are obviously going through but on this evidence it for sure looks like it’s not been a level playing field in terms of both teams prep for this game. |
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Post by dai on Jun 1, 2022 20:08:15 GMT
It's almost as if Scotland are afraid of having a go, to against the narrative.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 1, 2022 20:09:04 GMT
One thing to note is that Scotland are playing the same formation as us 3-5-2. Ukraine making mince meat out of them by playing 4-3-3/4-5-1. With their front 3 going 1v1 against their back 3
Maybe we're better at the system than the Scots or maybe our players have a better understanding - but it's something to be wary of. They've likely been practising against our specific system given they knew we and Scotland both play it
Basically think that Connor/Neco and our CMs will have to be very disciplined on Sunday
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