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Post by cynonvalley on Sept 25, 2022 23:28:51 GMT
What was with Polish fans in the home end? FAW slacking there.
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Post by insertname on Sept 25, 2022 23:34:16 GMT
If only we could've fielded a full strength side in this tournament. Imagine how well we could've done. Poland can go fuck themselves, wish them nothing but bad fortune. I'm usually okay with losing to teams and will wish them well but that 'performance' by them was one of the most disgusting I've ever seen. The worst thing about it is that they have the quality to win games properly but will never go for it because of how they think the game should be played. Heard one of their fans set a firework off in the ground too, hope they chuck that arsehole in a cell. To think half of their country have emigrated here, and this is how they behave. Fucking idiotic fanbase. Also, they began chanting as our anthem started, good start to relations. I don;t know why, but tonights loss has angered me more than the home Ireland loss in the WC qualifiers. I was walking home as it was starting up so was listening on radio wales at that point and the commentator said about the Poland fans fancying their chances of drowning out the wales fans. I thought I’d misheard that they were trying to sing over the anthem because that’s the sort of boorish classless behaviour I expect from the English. It seems like I didn’t mis-hear then. The whole lot of them disgraced themselves tonight. Horrible c***s |
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Post by njdragon on Sept 26, 2022 7:08:34 GMT
To think half of their country have emigrated here, and this is how they behave. Fucking idiotic fanbase. Also, they began chanting as our anthem started, good start to relations. I don;t know why, but tonights loss has angered me more than the home Ireland loss in the WC qualifiers. I was walking home as it was starting up so was listening on radio wales at that point and the commentator said about the Poland fans fancying their chances of drowning out the wales fans. I thought I’d misheard that they were trying to sing over the anthem because that’s the sort of boorish classless behaviour I expect from the English. It seems like I didn’t mis-hear then. The whole lot of them disgraced themselves tonight. Horrible c***s I’m pretty sure the chants turned into clapping our anthem as we sang it. I noticed towards the end we sang the anthem and Szczęsny clapped us. Not impressed with the constant flares and fireworks though, I sure there was some fighting amongst our fans though after half time. |
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Post by njdragon on Sept 26, 2022 7:11:32 GMT
I don't think he did too bad. He was dropping off making things tick. Lewandowski did nothing except for the assist, Bale hit the crossbar. Even in doing little he was the closest we had to a breakthrough. Ideally we need him and Moore on the pitch together. Good point. I just feel the system is worse when we play both. Dan James was definitely worse than Bale tonight, and he'd probably be the one to make way if someone had to be dropped Wow James comes in for a lot of criticism lately but he won’t be dropped. I still thought him and Johnson were out main threat last night. What has happened to bale, was poor throughout no work rate. James and nico link up was amazing pity the polish players just kept ruining the momentum. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 26, 2022 7:29:11 GMT
What was with Polish fans in the home end? FAW slacking there. Imagine if you went in the home end away at Poland in full Welsh gear. You probably wouldn't leave alive. |
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Post by londonexile on Sept 26, 2022 7:39:56 GMT
What's up with their Poland and Hungary collaboration? A group decked out in black t shirts with both flags printed on the shirt chanting Hungaria on the way to the match?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 26, 2022 7:46:46 GMT
What's up with their Poland and Hungary collaboration? A group decked out in black t shirts with both flags printed on the shirt chanting Hungaria on the way to the match? Both countries have a large, far right-wing element following their countries and clubs. Those decked out in black t-shirts are fascists. We had Legia Warsaw up in Wrexham for a UCL qualifier. They left a load of swastika stickers behind. |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 26, 2022 7:55:32 GMT
What's up with their Poland and Hungary collaboration? A group decked out in black t shirts with both flags printed on the shirt chanting Hungaria on the way to the match? Both countries have a large, far right-wing element following their countries and clubs. Those decked out in black t-shirts are fascists. We had Legia Warsaw up in Wrexham for a UCL qualifier. They left a load of swastika stickers behind. Slightly off topic but it looks like the far right are going to get into government in Italy. |
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Post by dai on Sept 26, 2022 8:27:10 GMT
What's up with their Poland and Hungary collaboration? A group decked out in black t shirts with both flags printed on the shirt chanting Hungaria on the way to the match? Both countries have a large, far right-wing element following their countries and clubs. Those decked out in black t-shirts are fascists. We had Legia Warsaw up in Wrexham for a UCL qualifier. They left a load of swastika stickers behind. Ironic that they had a flag of Putin being hanged in one of their league matches, yet they probably share the same sort of fascist, racist mindset. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Sept 26, 2022 8:27:57 GMT
If only we could've fielded a full strength side in this tournament. Imagine how well we could've done. Poland can go fuck themselves, wish them nothing but bad fortune. I'm usually okay with losing to teams and will wish them well but that 'performance' by them was one of the most disgusting I've ever seen. The worst thing about it is that they have the quality to win games properly but will never go for it because of how they think the game should be played. Heard one of their fans set a firework off in the ground too, hope they chuck that arsehole in a cell. Love a Jose Mourinho shithouse performance myself, we could learn a thing or two from tonight in terms of the dark arts! I was watching the game and thinking back to Coleman and he said something that the 'Welsh are generally nice people' and that he made his team 'street wise'. It is a while since we have played against a team of cnuts - Ireland? Serbia? were probably the last ones. Maybe we have lost a bit of that street wise element in the team. |
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Post by pclaude on Sept 26, 2022 8:44:05 GMT
After that I’m quite fearful for what we will be left with after our top level players retire. We look bang average in a lot of positions, (if Hennessy is still our best keeper then we’re really struggling ). We went a whole tournament against a group of elite nations without losing my more than 1 goal with Bale and Ramsey playing next to none of it. What on earth are you on about? I'd agree with this- it's very fine margins. People often write a backstory to a game based on the result rather than what happened during the game. But those fine margins are exactly why Bale & Ramsey are so important- they can produce the moment of magic that can win such games. Despite, sometimes, as Bale did last night, doing fuck all. |
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Post by penelope13 on Sept 26, 2022 9:21:52 GMT
What's up with their Poland and Hungary collaboration? A group decked out in black t shirts with both flags printed on the shirt chanting Hungaria on the way to the match? Hello, I am Hungarian. There is a great friendship betweend Poland and Hungary. The history of this goes back to many hundred years. Hungary and Poland were neighbours for a very long time, we shared kings several times, and we often helped each other in wars and revolutions. (We even helped each other when we were supposed to be enemies at war.) There is even a little poem about the friendship that everybody knows. (Polish people know the Polish language version, and Hungarians the Hungarian version.) Both countries commemorate the relationship on every 23rd of March. Hungarian-Polish marriages are fairly common, and this makes the bond even stronger. (There are approximately fifteen thousand marriages like this.) The friendship in football is particularly strong. Whenever the Hungarian national team is playing there is always a point during the match when the Hungarian fans start chanting "Polska, Polska." Apparantly Polish fans do the same at the Poland matches, chanting "Hungaria". By the way, when we played a World Cup qualifier match against Poland in Warsaw last November, the whole stadium was clapping during the whole length of the Hungarian national anthem. It was an amazing, heartwarming thing to witness. I have never seen anything like this. Here is more information about the history of the two countries' friendship if anyone interested: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93Poland_relationsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_and_Hungarian_brothers_be |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 26, 2022 10:03:35 GMT
Shame the Polish fans don't have the same respect for our anthem when they tried and failed to chant over it. Any reason for that?
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 26, 2022 10:07:21 GMT
Poor game, sluggish performance against The National Theatre Company of Poland which specialises in feigning injuries.
Worst Ref since that Roumanian, diabolical. Have the rules changed, or does an outfield player still have to leave the field when the trainer comes on to assist them when injured? It didn't happen a few times last night.
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Post by penelope13 on Sept 26, 2022 10:07:45 GMT
Shame your fans don't have the same respect for our anthem when they tried and failed to chant over it. Any reason for that? I do not know anything about that. I am Hungarian, and I cannot remember Hungarian fans being disrespectful towards Wales when we played against each other. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 26, 2022 10:10:32 GMT
Shame your fans don't have the same respect for our anthem when they tried and failed to chant over it. Any reason for that? I do not know anything about that. I am Hungarian, and I cannot remember Hungarian fans being disrespectful towards Wales when we played against each other. Apologies I misread your post, I meant the Polish fans. Worst set of fans I've seen in Wales for a long time, despite us being very respectful and welcoming to them. Edit: on the whole their fans were great in Wroclaw so maybe this is an issue with their away following in particular. Probably those black shirt weirdos mentioned above. Hungary also has a serious problem with the far right correct? |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 26, 2022 10:18:10 GMT
Poor game, sluggish performance against The National Theatre Company of Poland which specialises in feigning injuries. Worst Ref since that Roumanian, diabolical. Have the rules changed, or does an outfield player still have to leave the field when the trainer comes on to assist them when injured? It didn't happen a few times last night. Apparently if they get booked they don’t need to go off… work that one out. |
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Post by insertname on Sept 26, 2022 10:18:52 GMT
Love a Jose Mourinho shithouse performance myself, we could learn a thing or two from tonight in terms of the dark arts! I was watching the game and thinking back to Coleman and he said something that the 'Welsh are generally nice people' and that he made his team 'street wise'. It is a while since we have played against a team of cnuts - Ireland? Serbia? were probably the last ones. Maybe we have lost a bit of that street wise element in the team. I expect had we been the ones who needed a draw that we would have suddenly found our ability to be “streetwise”, although not to the pathetic level we saw last night |
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Post by insertname on Sept 26, 2022 10:20:55 GMT
I do not know anything about that. I am Hungarian, and I cannot remember Hungarian fans being disrespectful towards Wales when we played against each other. Apologies I misread your post, I meant the Polish fans. Worst set of fans I've seen in Wales for a long time, despite us being very respectful and welcoming to them. Edit: on the whole their fans were great in Wroclaw so maybe this is an issue with their away following in particular. Probably those black shirt weirdos mentioned above. Hungary also has a serious problem with the far right correct? I expect most were ex-pats from Wales/England? Maybe being “anglicised” turns them into wankers that would shame even England’s boorish support? |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 26, 2022 10:27:01 GMT
Hopefully there's a ban coming their way for the pyrotechnic display last night. Don't hold your breath though.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 26, 2022 10:29:17 GMT
Shame your fans don't have the same respect for our anthem when they tried and failed to chant over it. Any reason for that? I do not know anything about that. I am Hungarian, and I cannot remember Hungarian fans being disrespectful towards Wales when we played against each other. Hungary fans relentlessly booed our anthem when we were last at your place. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 26, 2022 10:31:50 GMT
Poor game, sluggish performance against The National Theatre Company of Poland which specialises in feigning injuries. Worst Ref since that Roumanian, diabolical. Have the rules changed, or does an outfield player still have to leave the field when the trainer comes on to assist them when injured? It didn't happen a few times last night. Worst I can remember was the one who took the home game against Azerbaijan in 2019. Absolutely horrendous. A Maltese referee who was clearly out of his depth on the international stage. |
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Post by dai on Sept 26, 2022 10:38:55 GMT
Hungarian and Polish marrying each other. Fascists and racists marrying fascists and racists, a match made in heaven.
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Post by penelope13 on Sept 26, 2022 10:39:04 GMT
I do not know anything about that. I am Hungarian, and I cannot remember Hungarian fans being disrespectful towards Wales when we played against each other. Apologies I misread your post, I meant the Polish fans. Worst set of fans I've seen in Wales for a long time, despite us being very respectful and welcoming to them. Edit: on the whole their fans were great in Wroclaw so maybe this is an issue with their away following in particular. Probably those black shirt weirdos mentioned above. Hungary also has a serious problem with the far right correct? Yes. There is a hardcore fan group in Hungary, called the "Carpathian Brigade". They wear black shirts. Apparently not all of them are far right, but a large percentage of them are. They give great support at Hungary matches, they make great atmosphere, but they are the ones who make trouble. The large majority of Hungary fans are completely peaceful and do not cause any trouble, but the Carpathian Brigade usually do, and they give Hungarian fans a bad reputation in Europe. Unfortunately the Hungarian Football Federation does not seem to do anything about them. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 26, 2022 10:55:00 GMT
Hopefully there's a ban coming their way for the pyrotechnic display last night. Don't hold your breath though. Probably be us that get the ban. |
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Post by ddirpytnop on Sept 26, 2022 11:20:29 GMT
Hungarian and Polish marrying each other. Fascists and racists marrying fascists and racists, a match made in heaven. Ironically, it would seem from this comment that it is not only Poles and Hungarians that are prone to a bit of bigotry. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Sept 26, 2022 11:41:39 GMT
Wish we had a natural left foot down the left flank, Neco and James cut onto their right a lot and it slows us down.
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Post by underwood on Sept 26, 2022 12:00:25 GMT
Apologies I misread your post, I meant the Polish fans. Worst set of fans I've seen in Wales for a long time, despite us being very respectful and welcoming to them. Edit: on the whole their fans were great in Wroclaw so maybe this is an issue with their away following in particular. Probably those black shirt weirdos mentioned above. Hungary also has a serious problem with the far right correct? Yes. There is a hardcore fan group in Hungary, called the "Carpathian Brigade". They wear black shirts. Apparently not all of them are far right, but a large percentage of them are. They give great support at Hungary matches, they make great atmosphere, but they are the ones who make trouble. The large majority of Hungary fans are completely peaceful and do not cause any trouble, but the Carpathian Brigade usually do, and they give Hungarian fans a bad reputation in Europe. Unfortunately the Hungarian Football Federation does not seem to do anything about them. FIFA & UEFA need to do more, but we all know the extent of their backbone. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 26, 2022 12:09:44 GMT
My player ratings...
Hennessey (5) - Almost let that one dribble across the line and nearly gave us a heart attack. The goals went through him, which is disappointing. Lack of game time showing I think
Cabango (7.5) - I think if we kept a CS he'd be more like an 8. I was pleasantly surprised by him. You could see on a couple of occasions he hasn't got the touch of someone like Mepham. However, he still seemed fairly confident on the ball despite this. Won a fair few duals against Lewandowski, and came across as quite physical and dominant. Would happily play him again & I think that has locked him into the WC squad. A shame he was partially at fault for the goal in an otherwise encouraging performance
Rodon (7) - Again thought he did well against one of the best strikers in the world. We finally saw him drive the ball out like he used to as well, which Page referenced is due to his game time increasing. I think he's already benefitting from Rennes
RND (5.5) - In defense he did alright, don't remember any mistakes. However, he was very wasteful with the ball & you'd expect better from a wing back converted to wide CB. Lost too much ball through his poor passes forward
Connor (6) - Game passed him by in my opinion and I don't remember him putting in any decent crosses?
Neco (6.5) - Quiet first half again, but much better in the 2nd half, especially late on when he was driving at people. The first half he was too passive and passed backwards too much when he could have take his man on
Morrell (7.5) - For me he continues to defy the level he plays at. Kept things ticking and does a good Allen impression, despite not quite possessing the quality Allen has when Allen was really on it. Have no concerns starting him in these big games
Levitt (7) - Much better than his last performance. Seems quite up and down on the whole. If he can keep playing like that then I can see him starting more in the future, but really needs to get consistent to go up a level
Brennan (7.5) - Looked most likely to score but was still quite wasteful. Forced a few saves from Sczeszny and if he gets the goal you'd say it's a other great performance but just didn't quite happen for him.
Bale (5) - Only bit of quality was the header really. Quiet performance and perhaps struggling with the lack of Ramsey to play off from
James (5.5) - Missed another one on one and failed to make the keeper work hard. It's too much of a theme now. Whilst his physical attributes are great, I do wonder whether we'd benefit from more quality on the left. Feels like he shouldn't be nailed to play 90 minutes really. Improved towards the end as he got in behind more, but just wish he could turn more of it into end product
Subs;
Colwill (7) - Looked very good & tbh it's criminal that he's not been starting for City. Think he'll be a quality player
Moore, Sorba don't really have too much to say about other than they did fine when they came on
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Post by dai on Sept 26, 2022 13:31:29 GMT
I don't care what anyone says, Morrell was class last night. Levitt held his own too, despite my personal reservations about him
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