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Post by dragonsoccer on Mar 21, 2023 14:39:06 GMT
I thought tomorrow was Wednesday - FAW say Thursday
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 21, 2023 15:44:17 GMT
Mark Harris has barely played in months, hardly makes Cardiffs' matchday squads and can't score. Aaron Collins being overlooked in favour of Cullen and Harris is a major oversight. Even Mullin should be ahead of those two. I was worried that Johnson playing a full 90 on Friday might further aggravate an existing issue. Thanks Cooper.... It makes very little sense
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Post by cadno on Mar 21, 2023 16:01:42 GMT
Cullen ok, he’s had a decent return and can score…
Harris ahead of Hedges or Collins?
2 attackers added and we still only have 4 CMs ?
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Post by cadno on Mar 21, 2023 16:11:24 GMT
Also a bit odd that two attackers have been added, when as far as I can tell no one has dropped out? Cullen can play off the left and that's good, and perhaps there are other injuries that haven't been confirmed yet, but it's strange no CM has been added Moore - ST Bradshaw - ST Harris - ST DJ - LW/RW Brennan - RW/LW/ST Broadhead - LW/ST Cullen - LW/ST Wilson - RW/CAM/CM Cooper - CAM/ST Harris - CAM Ramsey - CAM/CM Burns - RW/RWB/LWB Sorba - RW/RWB/LWB So out of the 13 mentioned there 5 players who can play RW, 3 who can play LW, 7 who can play ST, 4 who can play CAM Whereas in regards to CM it's just Morrell, Ampadu, JJ and Ramsey that can play there Exactly, arguably you could play Neco and Connor CM , but why not have lads that play there for their clubs in the squad???
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Post by 60sred on Mar 21, 2023 17:05:56 GMT
How can he be joining up late due to the injury against Spurs when he went and played 90 minutes a few days later against Newcastle? Sounds like Forest being difficult Very easy to be critical of Forest, Brennan injury was said to be tight muscle problem. The player may have requested a delay as prefers the injury to be treated by medical team who know the specifics of his injury. Athletes prefer to have people who they have built a relationship up with them carrying out their treatments. If a further 24 hours in Nottingham means getting Brennan on the pitch for both games i can't see many on here complaining
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 21, 2023 17:33:51 GMT
I think this is all pointing to Brennan not travelling to Croatia and just being available for the Latvia match
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 21, 2023 18:38:17 GMT
Whether people agree or not, Dan James has to start now, we need someone pacey for us to use on the counter and it's not going to be Brennan. Sometimes out of adversity a surprise can be sprung, here's hoping he has a cracker of a match and reminds the World of why he got a move to Man Utd.
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Post by hooky on Mar 21, 2023 19:19:45 GMT
After suffering the terrible decline of Welsh rugby …..
I see another job fir the boys in the coaching set up - let’s employ another defender who played the game in the least inventive fashion imaginable when our team desperately needs a forward orientated coach. He has zero experience ffs!
Then horror of horror Liam Cullen is picked? Why? What kind of message does that send in terms of standards? I know he has scored a few goals for Swansea but fit goodness sake you could not find a player less suited to the demands of international football. What is the point?
We are stuck with this terrible setup for at least this tournament. I was prepared to give Page the benefit of the doubt but it all remains a bit too mediocre and without a challenging voice with new ideas does it not? Hopefully the two other coaches will have some kind of meaningful influence as we desperately need something new
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 21, 2023 19:36:44 GMT
Whether people agree or not, Dan James has to start now, we need someone pacey for us to use on the counter and it's not going to be Brennan. Sometimes out of adversity a surprise can be sprung, here's hoping he has a cracker of a match and reminds the World of why he got a move to Man Utd. If we're playing 2 up front I'd go Bradshaw-Moore personally
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 21, 2023 19:59:52 GMT
Good shout, if Bradshaw is the workhorse that he sounds like that could work
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Post by manulike on Mar 21, 2023 20:33:24 GMT
I met a lad out in Bordeaux in the euros who promised me that our Liam is the next Rambo. I told him that position was already taken by our Robbie Burton. But it's still early days and they are both still so young ...
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Post by dai on Mar 21, 2023 20:38:44 GMT
Having processed it a bit more, I'm really struggling to understand the logic behind the recent diweddariad carfan. If Colwill wasn't deemed good enough for not playing regularly, then how is Harris?
If Mullin can do a job against a championship side, Latvia should be a more than do-able task for him.
Hedges is playing well at Championship level, Collins has some of the best attacking stats in the leagues, Mullin a stand out player and capable of outplaying ch'ship defenders. We also have Campbell who is still an option.........
Hell, if Brooks is actually fit (seems he is after his hatrick tonight at u21 level), then surely it's worth call him up to start integrating him into the setup again.
Page promised a fresh start, and that he knows the importance of player fitness and how you need everyone on the pitch to be match sharp.....seems he doesn't even listen to his own advice. Baffling.......
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Post by surge on Mar 21, 2023 21:36:16 GMT
Regarding Tom King over Owen Evans, I suggested latter makes more sense on paper but maybe Page is favouring players who have been in the squad before and know what is expected at international football camps. This would allow support staff to look after a smaller number of those coming in for first time.
I can only say that Mark Harris being called up is along similar lines as he's not having best time of it currently.
But hey, this is when Welsh fans lift players up so they perform better than usual with dragon on their chest... it's corny, but it really has been the thing we do recently and can continue to be our thing.
I don't know if Liam Cullen will be too small for international football but really pleased he's getting the chance. He's done well in Championship since new year and player who can operate from the left.
Croatia away was always going to be tough and not the game that decides the group.
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Post by surge on Mar 21, 2023 21:40:14 GMT
And can we stop suggestion Hedges can definitely play LB?? He's rarely on the left period let alone defensively on the left.
It would be really nice for us if he can play LWB mind. And we have brought up surprise players only to see them work and brought up "sure things" only to see them struggle.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 21, 2023 21:51:41 GMT
After suffering the terrible decline of Welsh rugby ….. I see another job fir the boys in the coaching set up - let’s employ another defender who played the game in the least inventive fashion imaginable when our team desperately needs a forward orientated coach. He has zero experience ffs! Then horror of horror Liam Cullen is picked? Why? What kind of message does that send in terms of standards? I know he has scored a few goals for Swansea but fit goodness sake you could not find a player less suited to the demands of international football. What is the point? We are stuck with this terrible setup for at least this tournament. I was prepared to give Page the benefit of the doubt but it all remains a bit too mediocre and without a challenging voice with new ideas does it not? Hopefully the two other coaches will have some kind of meaningful influence as we desperately need something new Vincent Kompany and Pep Guardiola are two famously a defensive mangers...
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Post by chief on Mar 21, 2023 22:14:08 GMT
After suffering the terrible decline of Welsh rugby ….. I see another job fir the boys in the coaching set up - let’s employ another defender who played the game in the least inventive fashion imaginable when our team desperately needs a forward orientated coach. He has zero experience ffs! Then horror of horror Liam Cullen is picked? Why? What kind of message does that send in terms of standards? I know he has scored a few goals for Swansea but fit goodness sake you could not find a player less suited to the demands of international football. What is the point? We are stuck with this terrible setup for at least this tournament. I was prepared to give Page the benefit of the doubt but it all remains a bit too mediocre and without a challenging voice with new ideas does it not? Hopefully the two other coaches will have some kind of meaningful influence as we desperately need something new Is this meant to be an ironic post or something? Jobs for the boys? Didn't we just hire two very impressive backroom staff members who have no prior connection to Page? What's wrong with Cullen? He's scored a goal every 120 minutes in the Championship this season. We've got league 2 players in our squad, but you cite standards and moan about Cullen!? Bizarre.
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Post by njdragon on Mar 21, 2023 22:40:44 GMT
After suffering the terrible decline of Welsh rugby ….. I see another job fir the boys in the coaching set up - let’s employ another defender who played the game in the least inventive fashion imaginable when our team desperately needs a forward orientated coach. He has zero experience ffs! Then horror of horror Liam Cullen is picked? Why? What kind of message does that send in terms of standards? I know he has scored a few goals for Swansea but fit goodness sake you could not find a player less suited to the demands of international football. What is the point? We are stuck with this terrible setup for at least this tournament. I was prepared to give Page the benefit of the doubt but it all remains a bit too mediocre and without a challenging voice with new ideas does it not? Hopefully the two other coaches will have some kind of meaningful influence as we desperately need something new Seriously you’re critical of unfashionable defenders going into coaching after Coleman and page just took us to 3 tournaments!! Fuck me you’re giving ‘Page’ a manager who’s taken us to our first World Cup since god knows when… the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure he’s really glad to have your support. Please tell me you started supporting wales in 2016!!
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Post by hooky on Mar 21, 2023 22:48:57 GMT
After suffering the terrible decline of Welsh rugby ….. I see another job fir the boys in the coaching set up - let’s employ another defender who played the game in the least inventive fashion imaginable when our team desperately needs a forward orientated coach. He has zero experience ffs! Then horror of horror Liam Cullen is picked? Why? What kind of message does that send in terms of standards? I know he has scored a few goals for Swansea but fit goodness sake you could not find a player less suited to the demands of international football. What is the point? We are stuck with this terrible setup for at least this tournament. I was prepared to give Page the benefit of the doubt but it all remains a bit too mediocre and without a challenging voice with new ideas does it not? Hopefully the two other coaches will have some kind of meaningful influence as we desperately need something new Seriously you’re critical of unfashionable defenders going into coaching after Coleman and page just took us to 3 tournaments!! Fuck me you’re giving ‘Page’ a manager who’s taken us to our first World Cup since god knows when… the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure he’s really glad to have your support. Please tell me you started supporting wales in 2016!! Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale!
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 22, 2023 0:59:47 GMT
Seriously you’re critical of unfashionable defenders going into coaching after Coleman and page just took us to 3 tournaments!! Fuck me you’re giving ‘Page’ a manager who’s taken us to our first World Cup since god knows when… the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure he’s really glad to have your support. Please tell me you started supporting wales in 2016!! Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale! Would you rather Craig Harrison, who I'm guessing is a UEFA Pro or Chris Gunter? It's all about opinions, but Gunter has been involved in the professional game for years, will have been coached by UEFA Pro coaches all his footballing life, been a part of the best Wales team in history, possibly has all the know how but not been on the courses. Where as some may have all the certificates in a semi Pro environment (or the only Pro team in a semi Pro league) but have no experience at elite level.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Mar 22, 2023 7:33:31 GMT
Cullen ok, he’s had a decent return and can score… Harris ahead of Hedges or Collins? 2 attackers added and we still only have 4 CMs ? 😂 Bristol Rovers' game is already postponed on Saturday. No excuse to not call Collins up.
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Post by iot on Mar 22, 2023 8:50:38 GMT
Having processed it a bit more, I'm really struggling to understand the logic behind the recent diweddariad carfan. If Colwill wasn't deemed good enough for not playing regularly, then how is Harris? If Mullin can do a job against a championship side, Latvia should be a more than do-able task for him. Hedges is playing well at Championship level, Collins has some of the best attacking stats in the leagues, Mullin a stand out player and capable of outplaying ch'ship defenders. We also have Campbell who is still an option......... Hell, if Brooks is actually fit (seems he is after his hatrick tonight at u21 level), then surely it's worth call him up to start integrating him into the setup again. Page promised a fresh start, and that he knows the importance of player fitness and how you need everyone on the pitch to be match sharp.....seems he doesn't even listen to his own advice. Baffling....... What I would say though is that Collins appears to be in a very poor run of form and Mullin is carrying a knee injury so calling him up would be very unwise imo. Having said that, Harris is barely playing football and I really don't think Cullen has what it takes, so I definitely agree that it should have been Collins despite his poor form.
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 22, 2023 8:58:13 GMT
Seriously you’re critical of unfashionable defenders going into coaching after Coleman and page just took us to 3 tournaments!! Fuck me you’re giving ‘Page’ a manager who’s taken us to our first World Cup since god knows when… the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure he’s really glad to have your support. Please tell me you started supporting wales in 2016!! Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale! The Gunter addition does feel a bit like “jobs for the boys” .
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Post by cadno on Mar 22, 2023 9:18:19 GMT
I’m chuffed for Cullen. He’s got an eye for goal, if the ball lands in the box and he’s on the end of it, there’s a good chance it goes in!
I like Mark Harris in terms of his running behind defenders, his pace, but he shouldn’t be ahead of Collins or Hedges atm, or Mullin if he’s eligible.
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 22, 2023 9:27:31 GMT
The ‘jobs for the boys’ comments about the coaching appointments seems to ignore that two out of the three appointments had no connection to Page whatsoever.
Are we saying that every single appointment needs to have zero connection with Page or the squad? Are we saying that we won’t be considering ex-players on the coaching staff until they’ve done all the badges or proved themselves elsewhere? If so, we’ll be one of the only teams that have these restrictions in place and will be putting ourselves at a disadvantage.
Don’t forget that out of the entire Euro 2016 squad, Gunter is the only one who has been offered a coaching position, it’s not as if we’ve given everyone a cushy little number when they retire.
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Post by iot on Mar 22, 2023 9:32:03 GMT
Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale! The Gunter addition does feel a bit like “jobs for the boys” . Confirmation bias. Those of you who have fixated on this “jobs for the boys” narrative will see this as another example of that. The rest of us won't. We've brought in two external, high-profile coaches to replace the ones that left (Symons and Strudwick), and to my knowledge brought in Gunter as an extra coach - I don't think he's replaced anyone in particular. So taken together, it's very difficult to see how this represents "jobs for the boys" - I mean, replacing Kit Symons with Eric Ramsay is the opposite of that.
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Mar 22, 2023 10:16:08 GMT
Changing the narrative, and back to the game itself on Saturday night, I'm going for a wholly unexpected and utterly unforeseen 1-0 win for us!
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Post by njdragon on Mar 22, 2023 10:19:18 GMT
Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale! The Gunter addition does feel a bit like “jobs for the boys” . Jobs for the boys was all about bringing in ex footballing friends, saunders, symons, hartson, Roy evans This is Chris Gunter - a total professional, dedicated to wales, 100 caps and a played a pivotal role in at least 2 successful campaigns, plus throw in world cup experience. There is not many other coaches in the world with that experience - this is 100% the right thing to do. Jobs for the boys is a lazy comparison here
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Post by njdragon on Mar 22, 2023 10:26:18 GMT
Seriously you’re critical of unfashionable defenders going into coaching after Coleman and page just took us to 3 tournaments!! Fuck me you’re giving ‘Page’ a manager who’s taken us to our first World Cup since god knows when… the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure he’s really glad to have your support. Please tell me you started supporting wales in 2016!! Toshack’s hatrick versus Scotland was probably the start of my international journey Look I know I am a bit harsh here but why do we risk a spot just to give Gunter some coaching experience. Pick someone who has some experience! Wales is not a hobby or a free hit. Someone please at least tell me Gunter has all the licenses! PS - hope I am proven wrong again and as eluded to above I am still a bit traumatised by our no show in the football WC and our rugby team falling off the cliff and life without Bale! fear enough you were there for the tosh years so you've experienced it!! What i see its lots of negativity surrounding page, a guy who's taken us to the euros and a world cup - that is beyond our expectations. We are wales and we dont deserve to be getting to these tournaments. Time has proved that. What we are seeing now is exceptional and these guys are pivotal. If im totally honest its the superstar in bale thats got us there. We've lost him now and there is a period of transition - Page will undoubtedly get the stick even though we've lost 2 irreplaceable players in bale and allen. As for Gunts he deserves a chance to be pushed through the system, his commitment alone. This is exactly what we should be doing - they are grooming him as a future welsh manager i suspect. We dont want to be turning around in 5 years time again saying who have we got to manage us when we have someone who has 100 caps and has taken us to 3 tournaments. Exactly the way we bring through players, we are now looking to the future of our managers.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 22, 2023 10:53:49 GMT
We may not have those magic Bale moments, but I promise you all this, we will be a more fluid and defensively solid team without him
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Post by cadno on Mar 22, 2023 12:29:16 GMT
Backs against the wall, hoof it up to Moore and Bradshaw!!!
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