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Post by jimexotic on Sept 11, 2023 22:05:20 GMT
I like an explanation from the ref about how that wasn't a red card, it was worse than Kieffer's and Morrell's put together. It was f*cking awful, it was basically an assault, not a tackle. Knee height when the ball was on the floor, I still can't believe that one of ours didn't go through him after that. In teams I've played in either on the pitch or in the changing rooms, nobody gets away with that kind of thing. The ref didn't stamp his authority early on, he let a few easily bookable offences go for too long and it resulted in them realising that they could pushing it. I noticed that on a few occasions they were not only fouling but swinging to catch our lads when they were on the floor, luckily nobody got caught. It was really dirty from them and I think we should lodge a complaint after that ridiculous VAR decision, the scrawny little prick nearly scored an equaliser late on. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 11, 2023 22:08:14 GMT
Some of his views can be way out but he sure does back some of his ideas with hard facts and documents and an idiotic conspiracy theorist possibly to the mainstream media who refuse to investigate goings on in Wales and the Welsh government. Jac o the North is a moron I’ve no idea who Jac of the north is but it sounds like it’s got nothing to do with Welsh football so best ignored, especially on match day after a Wales win. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 11, 2023 22:11:42 GMT
I'll definitely take that. First 35mins was our best performance in a while. Latvia were absolutely shocking, but we opened them up with ease and should have been 2 or 3 up. But there's obviously something not quite right. From a position where we were well on top and looked comfortable, we all of a sudden became incredibly nervy and lost all shape and composure. There were massive gaps in midfield again (I think the praise for James is fair, but he and Ampadu must take some blame for those massive gaps that appeared), we stopped trying to keep hold of the ball, Ward was pumping everything long and just giving back possession instantly. We then seemed to regather ourselves for a period, but went through another really poor spell after Rambo went off. Players went into their shells, we stopped communicating and became completely disorganised. I was disappointed that the likes of Ampadu and Davies didn't step up and show a bit more leadership. I personally think the fans deserve to take some of the blame for the toxic environment that's been created - it just puts pressure on the players and can't have helped the nerves. But what doesn't help Page is how we at times looked so disorganised and that players didn't know what their roles were and what we were trying to do. There was that corner near the end and a Connor Roberts long throw where lots of the players were clearly not expecting it. The lack of subs is also questionable - Sheehan should maybe have come on to help get back some control, Broadhead could have been another one. I think Rodon was excellent - he was up against that massive CF and absolutely bossed it, that header at the end that led to Brooks' goal a perfect example. The midfield was the main issue for me today - they were great for about half the game, and really struggled to get control the other half. To be fair, the fans in the ground have always been supportive. It’s the ones on social media who’ve been getting on their backs. As long as the supporters in the stadium keep up the encouragement then the players shouldn’t be affected by it. I think a lot of footballers ignore social media anyway (as hard as that must be, if I was famous I’d be googling my name every day haha) |
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Post by maelor on Sept 11, 2023 22:12:35 GMT
I like an explanation from the ref about how that wasn't a red card, it was worse than Kieffer's and Morrell's put together. It was f*cking awful, it was basically an assault, not a tackle. I'm in France and, after watching the game on my phone, I managed to find a French highlights programme with coverage of all tonight's qualifiers. I'm by no means fluent in French, but I understood enough to know that the panel were unanimously incredulous that it wasn't a red card. Atrocious decision. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 22:14:05 GMT
You've misread my post. James was very good, and fully deserves a lot of credit. But the fact that a 19 year old in his first competitive start was our best player also says something about the rest of the team. Ampadu, apart from that early pass putting Johnson through was poor, as was Neco and Johnson. Still, a wins a win. They all start off well. Competitive starts Ampadu Vs Ireland, Roberts Vs Ireland, James Vs Slovakia, Woodburn Vs Austria. We coach that reckless attacking play straight out of them! |
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Post by welrus on Sept 11, 2023 22:18:03 GMT
Well we did what we had to. But not very convincing against a poor Latvian side. Without the penalty I doubt we would have won, despite dominating in terms of stats.
Our lack of ability to score from open play, without Bale, is a major issue.
The table looks better until you reflect that we’ve taken 6 points from Latvia - and just 1 from the rest. That points to us finishing 4th - hope I’m wrong.
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 11, 2023 22:21:17 GMT
Right now I'd take third place if we were offered it May as well finish fifth |
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Post by welshowl on Sept 11, 2023 22:32:35 GMT
It was f*cking awful, it was basically an assault, not a tackle. Knee height when the ball was on the floor, I still can't believe that one of ours didn't go through him after that. In teams I've played in either on the pitch or in the changing rooms, nobody gets away with that kind of thing. The ref didn't stamp his authority early on, he let a few easily bookable offences go for too long and it resulted in them realising that they could pushing it. I noticed that on a few occasions they were not only fouling but swinging to catch our lads when they were on the floor, luckily nobody got caught. It was really dirty from them and I think we should lodge a complaint after that ridiculous VAR decision, the scrawny little prick nearly scored an equaliser late on. The only person watching who didn't think it was a penalty was unfortunately the referee - incredible cowardice from him not to give a red card. From that the Latvians knew they could foul at will - and they did. I was more than happy with the first half performance, but anxiousness from Cymru players and their dirty play meant that it was just a relief at the end.
For reference / planning! our next game versus Croatia is on Sunday 15th October. Croatia have their home game versus Turkey on a few days earlier. Let's hope the Croats win that one but incur a few suspensions for our game.
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Post by quetzal on Sept 11, 2023 22:32:55 GMT
We can beat Croatia at home.
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Post by zserty on Sept 11, 2023 22:57:08 GMT
God that was poor, i know weve won, but that was terrible. Against a pretty woeful side we have somehow made it a contest only put to bed by a 97th minute goal. I disagree. Brennan was terrible. Everyone did their job. Really? Did you miss the multitude of chances we gave up to Latvia. It's paper over the cracks again. Brennan didn't have his shooting boots on tonight I'll give you that. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 23:08:19 GMT
I disagree. Brennan was terrible. Everyone did their job. Really? Did you miss the multitude of chances we gave up to Latvia. It's paper over the cracks again. Brennan didn't have his shooting boots on tonight I'll give you that. Completely agree. We were desperately holding on against Latvia for the second time. We scored from a defender elbowing Wilson in the back of the head when he had his back to goal. Complete gift of a penalty. Second was when Latvia were pushing for an equaliser. Had a million chances which is nice, but lack of scoring is a bigger issue. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 11, 2023 23:19:18 GMT
We can beat Croatia at home. That's the spirit! |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 23:35:19 GMT
We can beat Croatia at home. We never beat the Yugoslavs. |
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Post by quetzal on Sept 11, 2023 23:38:01 GMT
We can beat Croatia at home. We never beat the Yugoslavs. We never qualify for World Cups! Lets see |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 12, 2023 0:24:30 GMT
Ward (5) - Didn't need to do much but flapped at that one corner which was dangerous. When you watch the replay he actually got a touch on it which took it away from the on rushing attacker - but too close for comfort imo and looked a little rusty. I'm gutted he's stayed at Leicester as 2nd choice
Roberts (5) - I can't remember the last time I gave him a good rating. Am I missing something? Doesn't contribute much in an attacking sense, occasionally doesn't get tight to his winger, occasionally makes sloppy passes that he should be making. The kindest thing I can say is that maybe he's there to balance out Neco, but I still think he doesn't contribute enough in the attacking phase for my liking
Mepham (7) - Good performance given his lack of game time. Showed good physicality and tends to have good games when playing in a back 3. Helps that Rodon was back to his best and they clearly have a good relationship
Rodon (8) - Back to his best and regular football is doing him a world of good. Big question is does he keep Lockyer out of the XI now? Perhaps he does. Good to have 2 options for that position who are getting game time
Davies (8) - Realised when Ramsey went off that he was the only outfield player left on the pitch who played at Euro 2016. Thought it was a vintage Davies performance and he was very tidy on the ball
Neco (7) - Carried the ball well today, and is always busy in the attacking phase. I'd like to see his crosses improve though. Almost scored a stonker late on, if it was more towards the corner the keeper wouldn't have got near it with the power he put on it
Ampadu (7) - I thought he was very reliable in the middle, didn't make any mistakes, competed well and looked very much like an experienced international in my opinion. I think sometimes people need to remind themselves he's only 22 and we're hinging our midfield on him. He's been around so long I think some people think of him like he's 26 or something, but he's a youngster who we're so reliant on at the moment
James (9) MOTM - Exceptional performance for a 19 year old making his competitive debut. He was physical, smart, consistent, composed, disciplined, and didn't look out of place at all. What a gem! Just goes to show sometimes throwing a kid in the deep end is worthwhile. I think he's pushed Morrell out of the team now. He's literally the player we've all been calling out for since Allen's retirement. I think having all those Championship games under his belt has been great for his development. Just hope he nails down a regular spot for Birmingham, preferably as a CM
Ramsey (8) - Thought he played like he was much happier. Showed some silky footwork and nice touches. Was surprised when he went off quite early, but I'd take 50 mins of him playing like that over what we got from him in the last camp. Topped it off with a well-taken penalty, and it's good to see him looking more like himself
Wilson (7.5) - Thought he looked better today and whilst I still feel he can use the ball better and increase his output for us, it's clear that he does give 100% for the shirt. Noticed that his pressing has improved recently, and got the assist at the end through his work rate and composure. Still think Brooks is a more natural player and my preferred starter when both are fit, but Wilson is clearly benefitting from being first choice at Fulham
Brennan (6.5) - As much as he deserves to be knocked for his finishing which was very poor, that should be counterbalanced by some of the positives tonight. Firstly, I was worried about the lack of a 9 in this formation, but I felt Brennan gave his best all round performance as the focal point of the attack tonight. He ran the channels well, utilised his pace to create 2 chances he should have scored from, and gave us a decent platform. If he puts those two chances away I think everyone would rave about that performance. I'm excited to see him play on the counter against the Croatians and the Turks IF he can improve his finishing (which we know he has in his locker)
Page (7) - He's reverted back to the system that qualified us for the World Cup. I do think this gives us a better shot at qualification, and ultimately that's all I think we should be judged by in this Euros. However, he's tried to make us a more progressive side and has failed and now abandoned it. This is a short term gain for a long term issue imo. Iran, USA & England figured out how to play against it, and any side that qualifies for the Euros will follow that blueprint. SO whilst I feel our qualifying chances have improved, I feel if we get to the tournament it will be another drab group stage exit. I guess I would take that given how badly I want to go to Germany, but after that I think it would be good to see some new ideas coming in. I just think our quality of player is good enough to not have to rely on a defensive 5 back system
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Post by morg on Sept 12, 2023 6:01:20 GMT
Just to underline that finishing was our main issue last night. We had 27 attempts on goal with 9 on target.
Portugal had 22 chances with 10 on target.
Latvia 0 Wales 2
Portugal 9 Luxembourg 0
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Post by iot on Sept 12, 2023 6:32:35 GMT
Ward (5) - Didn't need to do much but flapped at that one corner which was dangerous. When you watch the replay he actually got a touch on it which took it away from the on rushing attacker - but too close for comfort imo and looked a little rusty. I'm gutted he's stayed at Leicester as 2nd choice Roberts (5) - I can't remember the last time I gave him a good rating. Am I missing something? Doesn't contribute much in an attacking sense, occasionally doesn't get tight to his winger, occasionally makes sloppy passes that he should be making. The kindest thing I can say is that maybe he's there to balance out Neco, but I still think he doesn't contribute enough in the attacking phase for my liking Mepham (7) - Good performance given his lack of game time. Showed good physicality and tends to have good games when playing in a back 3. Helps that Rodon was back to his best and they clearly have a good relationship Rodon (8) - Back to his best and regular football is doing him a world of good. Big question is does he keep Lockyer out of the XI now? Perhaps he does. Good to have 2 options for that position who are getting game time Davies (8) - Realised when Ramsey went off that he was the only outfield player left on the pitch who played at Euro 2016. Thought it was a vintage Davies performance and he was very tidy on the ball Neco (7) - Carried the ball well today, and is always busy in the attacking phase. I'd like to see his crosses improve though. Almost scored a stonker late on, if it was more towards the corner the keeper wouldn't have got near it with the power he put on it Ampadu (7) - I thought he was very reliable in the middle, didn't make any mistakes, competed well and looked very much like an experienced international in my opinion. I think sometimes people need to remind themselves he's only 22 and we're hinging our midfield on him. He's been around so long I think some people think of him like he's 26 or something, but he's a youngster who we're so reliant on at the moment James (9) MOTM - Exceptional performance for a 19 year old making his competitive debut. He was physical, smart, consistent, composed, disciplined, and didn't look out of place at all. What a gem! Just goes to show sometimes throwing a kid in the deep end is worthwhile. I think he's pushed Morrell out of the team now. He's literally the player we've all been calling out for since Allen's retirement. I think having all those Championship games under his belt has been great for his development. Just hope he nails down a regular spot for Birmingham, preferably as a CM Ramsey (8) - Thought he played like he was much happier. Showed some silky footwork and nice touches. Was surprised when he went off quite early, but I'd take 50 mins of him playing like that over what we got from him in the last camp. Topped it off with a well-taken penalty, and it's good to see him looking more like himself Wilson (7.5) - Thought he looked better today and whilst I still feel he can use the ball better and increase his output for us, it's clear that he does give 100% for the shirt. Noticed that his pressing has improved recently, and got the assist at the end through his work rate and composure. Still think Brooks is a more natural player and my preferred starter when both are fit, but Wilson is clearly benefitting from being first choice at Fulham Brennan (6.5) - As much as he deserves to be knocked for his finishing which was very poor, that should be counterbalanced by some of the positives tonight. Firstly, I was worried about the lack of a 9 in this formation, but I felt Brennan gave his best all round performance as the focal point of the attack tonight. He ran the channels well, utilised his pace to create 2 chances he should have scored from, and gave us a decent platform. If he puts those two chances away I think everyone would rave about that performance. I'm excited to see him play on the counter against the Croatians and the Turks IF he can improve his finishing (which we know he has in his locker) Page (7) - He's reverted back to the system that qualified us for the World Cup. I do think this gives us a better shot at qualification, and ultimately that's all I think we should be judged by in this Euros. However, he's tried to make us a more progressive side and has failed and now abandoned it. This is a short term gain for a long term issue imo. Iran, USA & England figured out how to play against it, and any side that qualifies for the Euros will follow that blueprint. SO whilst I feel our qualifying chances have improved, I feel if we get to the tournament it will be another drab group stage exit. I guess I would take that given how badly I want to go to Germany, but after that I think it would be good to see some new ideas coming in. I just think our quality of player is good enough to not have to rely on a defensive 5 back system I think people are being slightly OTT about James. I think his first couple of starts have been encouraging. I'd like to see him get more involved, but am sure that will come with time. However, there were still some significant issues in midfield for me which every other side in the group would have capitalized on. It was weird because we looked in complete control for about half the game (30mins first half, 15 the second) and then a nervous wrexh the other half. What do people put that down to? For me, the main culprits were in midfield where we lost control. They went into their shells slightly, stopped showing for the ball, and so we couldn't retain possession. I think that's probably where Morrell gives us a fair bit more control in those situations. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 12, 2023 8:35:52 GMT
Really? Did you miss the multitude of chances we gave up to Latvia. It's paper over the cracks again. Brennan didn't have his shooting boots on tonight I'll give you that. Completely agree. We were desperately holding on against Latvia for the second time. We scored from a defender elbowing Wilson in the back of the head when he had his back to goal. Complete gift of a penalty. Second was when Latvia were pushing for an equaliser. Had a million chances which is nice, but lack of scoring is a bigger issue. We weren't "desperately holding on" |
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Post by dai on Sept 12, 2023 9:07:59 GMT
I'll definitely take that. First 35mins was our best performance in a while. Latvia were absolutely shocking, but we opened them up with ease and should have been 2 or 3 up. But there's obviously something not quite right. From a position where we were well on top and looked comfortable, we all of a sudden became incredibly nervy and lost all shape and composure. There were massive gaps in midfield again (I think the praise for James is fair, but he and Ampadu must take some blame for those massive gaps that appeared), we stopped trying to keep hold of the ball, Ward was pumping everything long and just giving back possession instantly. We then seemed to regather ourselves for a period, but went through another really poor spell after Rambo went off. Players went into their shells, we stopped communicating and became completely disorganised. I was disappointed that the likes of Ampadu and Davies didn't step up and show a bit more leadership. I personally think the fans deserve to take some of the blame for the toxic environment that's been created - it just puts pressure on the players and can't have helped the nerves. But what doesn't help Page is how we at times looked so disorganised and that players didn't know what their roles were and what we were trying to do. There was that corner near the end and a Connor Roberts long throw where lots of the players were clearly not expecting it. The lack of subs is also questionable - Sheehan should maybe have come on to help get back some control, Broadhead could have been another one. I think Rodon was excellent - he was up against that massive CF and absolutely bossed it, that header at the end that led to Brooks' goal a perfect example. The midfield was the main issue for me today - they were great for about half the game, and really struggled to get control the other half. As long as the supporters in the stadium keep up the encouragement then the players shouldn’t be affected by it. I think a lot of footballers ignore social media anyway (as hard as that must be, if I was famous I’d be googling my name every day haha) Personally, I think you're both wrong on this one. I know a wide variety if supporters - from die hard away travellers to your fair weather fans who would only go to watch Wales at major tournaments (which annoyed me no end), and there's been criticism of Page and the setup across ALL the fans. Whether you think that's justified is down to personal opinion. I'm not sure why you think fans should take the blame for the toxic environment? It's just a reaction to the shambles they've witnessed on the pitch, and the words that come out of Pages' mouth. (he once again last night took a swipe at fans by saying something along the lines of pressure comes from the outside, we ignore that etc). What Page says riles up fans just as much as the performances, and maybe if Page chose his words better, fans may be a bit more sympathetic? He described last nights win as 'powerful'. I mean really? It was a good performance under the pressure, but 'powerful'? These sort of games, although tricky, should be bread and butter. Anyway, happy to give credit where it's due. It was a decent performance last night, especially the opening 30 minutes. Lack of cutting edge in the final third is still a concern though. I've said it before, but Mullin finishes a lot of those chances. I thought we needed a proper CM in the second half after Ramsey went off as we just struggled a bit for control. It's going to interesting to see what the attendance will be like for the next competitive home game. Last nights' results will certainly have helped get some fans back on side. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 12, 2023 9:24:38 GMT
To be fair, the fans in the ground have always been supportive. It’s the ones on social media who’ve been getting on their backs.As long as the supporters in the stadium keep up the encouragement then the players shouldn’t be affected by it. I think a lot of footballers ignore social media anyway (as hard as that must be, if I was famous I’d be googling my name every day haha) Personally, I think you're both wrong on this one. I know a wide variety if supporters - from die hard away travellers to your fair weather fans who would only go to watch Wales at major tournaments (which annoyed me no end), and there's been criticism of Page and the setup across ALL the fans. Whether you think that's justified is down to personal opinion. I'm not sure why you think fans should take the blame for the toxic environment? It's just a reaction to the shambles they've witnessed on the pitch, and the words that come out of Pages' mouth. (he once again last night took a swipe at fans by saying something along the lines of pressure comes from the outside, we ignore that etc). What Page says riles up fans just as much as the performances, and maybe if Page chose his words better, fans may be a bit more sympathetic? He described last nights win as 'powerful'. I mean really? It was a good performance under the pressure, but 'powerful'? These sort of games, although tricky, should be bread and butter. It's going to interesting to see what the attendance will be like for the next competitive home game. Last nights' results will certainly have helped get some fans back on side. What I meant was that the crowds in the stadiums aren’t getting on their backs or creating a negative atmosphere when the game is on. If you look at social media you’d think that the players would be getting a hard time in the ground, but in reality, instead of walking into a cauldron, they’re met with a supportive roar. Another example of this is Jonny Williams. He was the top of the whipping boy list in social media whenever he was named in the squad because he played on League two and was selected in front of whichever excluded player was flavour of the month (often when they played totally different positions to him) but when he started warming up on the side of the pitch in the actual ground, there was always a huge roar and a Jonny Williams chant. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 12, 2023 9:26:30 GMT
To be fair, the fans in the ground have always been supportive. It’s the ones on social media who’ve been getting on their backs.As long as the supporters in the stadium keep up the encouragement then the players shouldn’t be affected by it. I think a lot of footballers ignore social media anyway (as hard as that must be, if I was famous I’d be googling my name every day haha) Personally, I think you're both wrong on this one. I know a wide variety if supporters - from die hard away travellers to your fair weather fans who would only go to watch Wales at major tournaments (which annoyed me no end), and there's been criticism of Page and the setup across ALL the fans. Whether you think that's justified is down to personal opinion. I'm not sure why you think fans should take the blame for the toxic environment? It's just a reaction to the shambles they've witnessed on the pitch, and the words that come out of Pages' mouth. (he once again last night took a swipe at fans by saying something along the lines of pressure comes from the outside, we ignore that etc). What Page says riles up fans just as much as the performances, and maybe if Page chose his words better, fans may be a bit more sympathetic? He described last nights win as 'powerful'. I mean really? It was a good performance under the pressure, but 'powerful'? These sort of games, although tricky, should be bread and butter. Anyway, happy to give credit where it's due. It was a decent performance last night, especially the opening 30 minutes. Lack of cutting edge in the final third is still a concern though. I've said it before, but Mullin finishes a lot of those chances. I thought we needed a proper CM in the second half after Ramsey went off as we just struggled a bit for control. It's going to interesting to see what the attendance will be like for the next competitive home game. Last nights' results will certainly have helped get some fans back on side. Also, I didn’t feel that he was having a go at the fans when he said pressure came from the outside. Obviously I can’t be sure but I took it that it was aimed at the media and social media. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 12, 2023 9:41:50 GMT
I have been critical of Page in the past but I don't think he's done or said anything wrong here. I think these two games have been managed quite well, three at the back with wing backs definitely suits us for now but I'd like to see Roberts get forward more.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 12, 2023 10:14:14 GMT
Improvement again last night. Ampadu and JJ look a promising mix holding midfield.
Ward, not a lot to do, but his distribution is poor (as likely to pass to opposition or find touch). Goalie's a real problem area for us at the moment, but not a lot can be done for now. Doesn't inspire confidence.
What I don't understand is, why these millionaire footballers can't keep the ball down when shooting for goal. Is it lack of technique, too light a ball or slipper boots? Have they been taught to keep their heads over the ball when shooting instead of leaning back? Brennan Johnson was a prime example last night.
At least we won which is a big plus.
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Post by morg on Sept 12, 2023 12:00:05 GMT
I have been critical of Page in the past but I don't think he's done or said anything wrong here. I think these two games have been managed quite well, three at the back with wing backs definitely suits us for now but I'd like to see Roberts get forward more. I struggle with the trade off between best formation and getting certain players in the team. Agree re 532 (343,3412) but also want to see Dan James, Kieffer, Aaron and Brennan picked. Also agree re wing backs needing to offer more in attack. Unpopular view on here but that keeps bringing me back to Dan being used as a wing back. He's got the engine for it, he's at least a belligerent presence defensively and he'd have Ben behind him. (Neco to switch to right). Aaron would also need to be aware of filling in as a third central midfielder without having to go too deep. Harry seems capable of this too. So Ward Neco Rodon/Lockyer/Mepham Rodon/Lockyer/Mepham Davies Dan James Ampadu Jordan James/? Ramsey/Wilson/Brooks Moore Johnson |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 12, 2023 12:34:14 GMT
We never beat the Yugoslavs. We never qualify for World Cups! Lets see I hope we do but I hate drawing those teams. Theres a lot of higher tier teams I prefer to draw in groups than them. I'd rather Belgium to Serbia or Bosnia. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 12, 2023 12:35:43 GMT
Completely agree. We were desperately holding on against Latvia for the second time. We scored from a defender elbowing Wilson in the back of the head when he had his back to goal. Complete gift of a penalty. Second was when Latvia were pushing for an equaliser. Had a million chances which is nice, but lack of scoring is a bigger issue. We weren't "desperately holding on" Latvia were turning the screw lasg few minutes. When everyone pounced on Ward for claiming that high ball was that not relief from the players? |
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Post by njdragon on Sept 12, 2023 12:59:17 GMT
We weren't "desperately holding on" Latvia were turning the screw lasg few minutes. When everyone pounced on Ward for claiming that high ball was that not relief from the players? ultimately they did only have 2 shots on target the whole match so even though we sucked up some pressure it was nothing compared to our 9 shots. if they were as clinical as we saw against albania then we may have an issue but then again if we were as clinical.... its all ifs and buts. at the end of the day we won by 2 goals with a clean sheet |
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Post by underwood on Sept 12, 2023 13:30:45 GMT
We never qualify for World Cups! Let’s see I hope we do but I hate drawing those teams. Theres a lot of higher tier teams I prefer to draw in groups than them. I'd rather Belgium to Serbia or Bosnia. I agree. We have a total blind spot for anyone from the former Yugoslavia - even when they were still Yugoslavia. Also throw in the Dutch & the Poles. We do seem to have mastered the rest of the former Eastern Bloc to a certain extent though. I just think that the former Balkans are technically more gifted. |
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Post by quetzal on Sept 12, 2023 13:45:18 GMT
I hope we do but I hate drawing those teams. Theres a lot of higher tier teams I prefer to draw in groups than them. I'd rather Belgium to Serbia or Bosnia. I agree. We have a total blind spot for anyone from the former Yugoslavia - even when they were still Yugoslavia. Also throw in the Dutch & the Poles. We do seem to have mastered the rest of the former Eastern Bloc to a certain extent though. I just think that the former Balkans are technically more gifted. We’ve beaten Montenegro and Macedonia though. |
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Post by underwood on Sept 12, 2023 13:47:23 GMT
On another note, I hope last night’s referee has had a phone call from the UEFA Assessor today telling him to put his passport away for a while.
One of the most incredulous decisions I’ve witnessed in a long time not to send off someone for an assault that could potentially have put JJ out for a season or more.
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