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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 18, 2023 22:17:30 GMT
99% certain it's the playoffs now.
If I've understood things correctly we should (assuming Italy don't lose to Ukraine) get a home tie against either Ukraine, Finland or Iceland (I think there's a draw to determine who). Apart from Ukraine, we should be favourites, whoever is in charge. Then probably away to Poland in the final, where we would be very much second favourites. But they've done really poorly in qualifying, so who knows.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 18, 2023 22:21:59 GMT
According to we global we are at least guaranteed a playoff place.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 18, 2023 22:23:46 GMT
Draw Nov 23rd
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 18, 2023 22:32:26 GMT
We need Czechia and Italy to not lose their remaining qualifier to have a home draw against Ukraine, Iceland or Finland.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 18, 2023 22:54:26 GMT
Knowing our luck we'd get Ukraine and they'd smash us as revenge
We should be able to beat Iceland or Finland at home... I think
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Post by hooky on Nov 18, 2023 23:33:35 GMT
No way we will beat Poland away when we can't even get the better of Armenia, especially under this coaching ticket.
We are gonna miss Germany - today was our big second chance and we blew it without even firing a shot
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Post by hooky on Nov 18, 2023 23:35:10 GMT
and we can no longer say with conviction we are necessarily better than Iceland or Finland can we? The truth be told we are a bit of a mess right now.
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 19, 2023 0:21:10 GMT
No way we will beat Poland away when we can't even get the better of Armenia, especially under this coaching ticket. We are gonna miss Germany - today was our big second chance and we blew it without even firing a shot Issue is if today is a play off we go to ET. We don’t have to beat Poland. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 19, 2023 0:21:47 GMT
99% certain it's the playoffs now. If I've understood things correctly we should (assuming Italy don't lose to Ukraine) get a home tie against either Ukraine, Finland or Iceland (I think there's a draw to determine who). Apart from Ukraine, we should be favourites, whoever is in charge. Then probably away to Poland in the final, where we would be very much second favourites. But they've done really poorly in qualifying, so who knows. 50% chance being home or away in the final leg. It’s a random draw. |
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Post by morg on Nov 19, 2023 8:26:30 GMT
So my possibly flawed conclusion is that play off wise.
1. We get a home semi v Iceland, Ukraine or Finland unless Moldova win in Czechia and Italy lose ?
2. Poland are likely to be home to Estonia in the other semi. Who else could Poland face?
Or has any of the above now been overtaken by results/ not correct in the first place?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 19, 2023 10:25:37 GMT
Yes, I'm pretty sure that's correct.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Nov 19, 2023 10:39:41 GMT
Iceland seem to be having similar issues to us; good side around 2016 but struggling at the moment. They'd be my pick of the teams we could face.
If we get Ukraine I'd bet my house on us losing.
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Post by hooky on Nov 19, 2023 11:15:07 GMT
Ukraine should have beaten us last time and we are now substantially worse and no longer have Bale
Only one outcome.
Think we are running out of luck now aren't we!
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 19, 2023 11:26:15 GMT
Ukraine should have beaten us last time and we are now substantially worse and no longer have Bale Only one outcome. Think we are running out of luck now aren't we! You say that but watch the highlights back, we had chances to make it 2-0. |
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Post by morg on Nov 19, 2023 11:44:51 GMT
So if things go as expected, we ger Finland, Iceland or Ukraine at home with lots drawn to decide which one?
If successful, we could get a home game v Poland?
So we have 67% chance of it not being Ukraine and then a 50% chance of being at home for the final.
If we bring our Croatia display to the playoffs, I wouldn't write us off just yet.
Have you seen Poland's competitive results since the World Cup? They're at home to Latvia in a friendly this week.
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Post by zserty on Nov 19, 2023 13:08:24 GMT
So if things go as expected, we ger Finland, Iceland or Ukraine at home with lots drawn to decide which one? If successful, we could get a home game v Poland? So we have 67% chance of it not being Ukraine and then a 50% chance of being at home for the final. If we bring our Croatia display to the playoffs, I wouldn't write us off just yet. Have you seen Poland's competitive results since the World Cup? They're at home to Latvia in a friendly this week. I do think the Croatia game had less pressure on it than the Armenia one, it was almost accepted the group was done with and it allowed us a bit more freedom. If we show up as we have Vs Turkey, Armenia or Latvia we will lose to any of the teams mentioned. |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 19, 2023 16:43:00 GMT
So if things go as expected, we ger Finland, Iceland or Ukraine at home with lots drawn to decide which one? If successful, we could get a home game v Poland? So we have 67% chance of it not being Ukraine and then a 50% chance of being at home for the final. If we bring our Croatia display to the playoffs, I wouldn't write us off just yet. Have you seen Poland's competitive results since the World Cup? They're at home to Latvia in a friendly this week. What happens if Italy lose to Ukraine? |
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 19, 2023 16:54:24 GMT
We'll pull it out of the bag
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2023 16:55:12 GMT
So if things go as expected, we ger Finland, Iceland or Ukraine at home with lots drawn to decide which one? If successful, we could get a home game v Poland? So we have 67% chance of it not being Ukraine and then a 50% chance of being at home for the final. If we bring our Croatia display to the playoffs, I wouldn't write us off just yet. Have you seen Poland's competitive results since the World Cup? They're at home to Latvia in a friendly this week. What happens if Italy lose to Ukraine? Italy drop into the playoffs and become the overwhelming favourites to win the path we'd be placed in |
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Post by morg on Nov 19, 2023 17:03:45 GMT
What happens if Italy lose to Ukraine? Italy drop into the playoffs and become the overwhelming favourites to win the path we'd be placed in I imagine that they'd then get Estonia at home and we'd be away to Poland? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2023 17:06:12 GMT
Italy drop into the playoffs and become the overwhelming favourites to win the path we'd be placed in I imagine that they'd then get Estonia at home and we'd be away to Poland? Not sure how the home/aways work but if Italy come into the equation I think our chance of qualifying drops immensely, regardless of whether we get home games or not |
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Post by morg on Nov 19, 2023 17:09:14 GMT
I imagine that they'd then get Estonia at home and we'd be away to Poland? Not sure how the home/aways work but if Italy come into the equation I think our chance of qualifying drops immensely, regardless of whether we get home games or not Think the 2 highest placed finishers in NL A would get home ties so that would then be them and Poland? We really want Italy and Czechia to qualify automatically |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 19, 2023 17:43:32 GMT
Just had a reply from We Global. Ukraine and Moldova go through at the expense of Italy and Czechs then we got Italy away first game. Ffs 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by morg on Nov 19, 2023 17:49:33 GMT
Just had a reply from We Global. Ukraine and Moldova go through at the expense of Italy and Czechs then we got Italy away first game. Ffs 🤦🏻♂️ Yep and then Poland v Czechia. As I say, let's hope Italy and Czechia qualify automatically. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 19, 2023 21:55:30 GMT
We need Italy & Czechia to avoid defeat tomorrow.
And if Croatia automatically qualify, then lets avoid Ukraine in the play-off draw and hope the winner of our semi gets to host the pathway final. If that happens, we have a decent chance of getting through.
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Post by felinessex on Nov 19, 2023 23:15:46 GMT
The easiest play-off draw we could have hoped for would have been Armenia away, followed by Turkyie at home.
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Post by spiritof16 on Nov 20, 2023 0:25:09 GMT
The easiest play-off draw we could have hoped for would have been Armenia away, followed by Turkyie at home. Wow. What a great way to put it. |
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Post by morg on Nov 20, 2023 5:12:56 GMT
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Post by morg on Nov 20, 2023 8:30:53 GMT
Currently more nervous about 2 games tonight than our game tomorrow.
Ukraine v Italy (in Germany)
Czechia v Moldova
Both KO at 7.45
So permutations are I think as follow
Italy lose, Czechia don't lose.
We'd be away to Poland
Italy and Czechia both lose.
We'd be away to Italy
Czechia lose, Italy don't lose
We're away to Czechia.
Both don't lose
Home to Iceland, Ukraine or Finland
Is that it?
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2023 8:38:45 GMT
Currently more nervous about 2 games tonight than our game tomorrow. Ukraine v Italy (in Germany) Czechia v Moldova Both KO at 7.45 So permutations are I think as follow Italy lose, Czechia don't lose. We'd be away to Poland Italy and Czechia both lose. We'd be away to Italy Czechia lose, Italy don't lose We're away to Czechia. Both don't lose Home to Estonia, Ukraine or Finland Is that it? Nearly right. If either or both lose you are spot on. if both qualify though, we can’t play the Estonians as they will face the highest ranked League A side, which will not be us as Poland have a higher ranking than us. We would face Ukraine, Finland or Iceland. It’s a random draw which one gets bumped up to League A. |
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